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As far as Congdon you couldn't be more wrong.
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-American (Football Writers, Rivals.com, ESPN.com)
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (The Sporting News)
  • 2005 Second-Team All-Big 12 (AP, San Antonio Express News, Austin American-Statesman, Kansas City Star)
  • Nebraska Record for Field Goals in a Season (19)
  • First Nationally Among Freshmen in Field Goal Accuracy (.826)
  • Tied For 16th Nationally and Second in Big 12 in FG per Game (1.58)
  • 2006 Preseason Second-Team All-Big 12 (Lindy’s)
  • 2006 Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award Watch List
  • 2006 Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll
  • 2005 Big 12 Commissioner’s Fall Academic Honor Roll

He left after his Soph season. Said it was to be close to his Mom, but transfered to USC.

 

 

 

Jordan Congdon? You are arguing that Jordan Congdon was one of our great kickers?? You’ve got to be kidding me. Yeah, Congdon was great. So long as you don’t want to kick a FG anyplace outside the 25 yard line. Did he make a FG of longer than 40 yds? Ever?

 

Say, what NFL team does Congdon play for? I haven’t kept track of him. Because I don’t have a mancrush on the guy.

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+1 NUance!

 

Thus is illustrated the utter fallacy of trying to actually evaluate players by their awards, postseason or "watchlist" or otherwise. Those things reward statistics, which can often be completely distinct from a player's skillset. Or Alex Henery was not one of the nation's best kickers.

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As far as Congdon you couldn't be more wrong.
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-American (Football Writers, Rivals.com, ESPN.com)
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (The Sporting News)
  • 2005 Second-Team All-Big 12 (AP, San Antonio Express News, Austin American-Statesman, Kansas City Star)
  • Nebraska Record for Field Goals in a Season (19)
  • First Nationally Among Freshmen in Field Goal Accuracy (.826)
  • Tied For 16th Nationally and Second in Big 12 in FG per Game (1.58)
  • 2006 Preseason Second-Team All-Big 12 (Lindy’s)
  • 2006 Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award Watch List
  • 2006 Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll
  • 2005 Big 12 Commissioner’s Fall Academic Honor Roll

He left after his Soph season. Said it was to be close to his Mom, but transfered to USC.

 

 

 

 

Jordan Congdon? You are arguing that Jordan Congdon was one of our great kickers?? You’ve got to be kidding me. Yeah, Congdon was great. So long as you don’t want to kick a FG anyplace outside the 25 yard line. Did he make a FG of longer than 40 yds? Ever?

 

Say, what NFL team does Congdon play for? I haven’t kept track of him. Because I don’t have a mancrush on the guy.

 

Yeah, wasn't Congdon our guy when we couldn't even kick a fricking field goal against Auburn in our bowl game because he didn't even have the leg to attempt it. Instead we had to go for it on 4th down and lost the game. Or am I misremembering?

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I really don't care who we hire, as long as that person or those people can light a fire under our players' asses!! I saw JPeter on BRWU last night too. His biggest problem was the attitude and leadership. He doesn't see it with anyone on the team and I completely agree.

 

Where are the leaders!!!!???? I have just been completely frustrated by not seeing anyone on the field step up and get in guys faces. I understand the business-like approach but I don't think that's a good attitude for college football. That's a NFL attitude. In college you want to see that fire and love and all out attitudes. Watch LSU, Alabama, Oregon, hell even Boise. Those teams have a TON of fire on the field. You see guys holding other guys accountable.

 

JPeter also said how he is totally against a revolving Captain system. He feels b/c of this many guys aren't sure who to look at as the leaders. I do agree to some point, but as far as I'm considered, it shouldn't matter if you are voted a Captain or not, there should be "Actual Leaders" on the team whether designated or not. There has to be vocal leaders that will hold everyone accountable!!!!

 

The biggest problem I've seen with our team in the last decade is the lack of attitude, fire, swagger, etc. Call it whatever you want but I haven't seen it. And I think this is a direct correlation to the coaches. We need some coaches who can come in here and show these players what fire and attitude is, and to find leaders on the team that can step up and actually vocally do it.

 

One last question. When is the last time you saw a player on our team go up to another player and grab his facemask and give him the business??

My problem with Jason is he makes a lot of broad statements like that yet he's not around the team. How does he know there aren't leaders on the team? Apparently he didn't watch Rex at all this year or talk to any players at all. David was the same way on the defense. I'm sorry, just because you beat down some freshman on the team and demoralize him and bully him (a guy who's supposed to be your teammate BTW) it doesn't mean you're not a leader.

 

As far as the defense he's so against, he doesn't consider the fact that there are more than one way to skin a cat so to speak. Just because we ran a defense one way almost 20 years ago it doesn't mean any number of defenses wont work. BTW. . .McBride who he's pimping so hard likes this defense.

I think it comes from the fact that there seem to be a couple "lead by example" guys on the team (David, Burkhead) but no apparent vocal leaders on the sidelines during the actual games.

Yes, lead by example is great, but many players don't get motivated by lead by example. There has to be vocal leaders on the team. Show me a national championship team in the past 20 years that didn't have at least one major vocal leader!! It's about motivation and having your peers holding you accountable.

 

No one with a straight face can tell me they see the fire, fierce attitude, c$%k swagger, and unacceptance of a loss from this team over the last decade. It's just not there. Tired of hearing the "oh it was just one game, we have to put it behind us and move forward" crap.

 

The crazy thing is it can all come back with just one or two guys stepping up to be vocal leaders. And I agree with JPeter about getting rid of the rotating Captains. Vote for the captains! Guys who will step up and be vocal leaders. Guys who will call others out even if they're "all-americans." Allow the team to see who the leaders are at all times, they don't change game to game. This isn't high school anymore, not everyone needs to be coddled and made sure they get to be a captain at least once.

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As far as Congdon you couldn't be more wrong.
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-American (Football Writers, Rivals.com, ESPN.com)
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (The Sporting News)
  • 2005 Second-Team All-Big 12 (AP, San Antonio Express News, Austin American-Statesman, Kansas City Star)
  • Nebraska Record for Field Goals in a Season (19)
  • First Nationally Among Freshmen in Field Goal Accuracy (.826)
  • Tied For 16th Nationally and Second in Big 12 in FG per Game (1.58)
  • 2006 Preseason Second-Team All-Big 12 (Lindy’s)
  • 2006 Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award Watch List
  • 2006 Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll
  • 2005 Big 12 Commissioner’s Fall Academic Honor Roll

He left after his Soph season. Said it was to be close to his Mom, but transfered to USC.

 

 

 

 

Jordan Congdon? You are arguing that Jordan Congdon was one of our great kickers?? You’ve got to be kidding me. Yeah, Congdon was great. So long as you don’t want to kick a FG anyplace outside the 25 yard line. Did he make a FG of longer than 40 yds? Ever?

 

Say, what NFL team does Congdon play for? I haven’t kept track of him. Because I don’t have a mancrush on the guy.

 

I wouldn't put Congdon out there trying to prove we have good kickers. His inability to hit anything outside a PAT really hurt.

 

Yeah, wasn't Congdon our guy when we couldn't even kick a fricking field goal against Auburn in our bowl game because he didn't even have the leg to attempt it. Instead we had to go for it on 4th down and lost the game. Or am I misremembering?

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I really don't care who we hire, as long as that person or those people can light a fire under our players' asses!! I saw JPeter on BRWU last night too. His biggest problem was the attitude and leadership. He doesn't see it with anyone on the team and I completely agree.

 

Where are the leaders!!!!???? I have just been completely frustrated by not seeing anyone on the field step up and get in guys faces. I understand the business-like approach but I don't think that's a good attitude for college football. That's a NFL attitude. In college you want to see that fire and love and all out attitudes. Watch LSU, Alabama, Oregon, hell even Boise. Those teams have a TON of fire on the field. You see guys holding other guys accountable.

 

JPeter also said how he is totally against a revolving Captain system. He feels b/c of this many guys aren't sure who to look at as the leaders. I do agree to some point, but as far as I'm considered, it shouldn't matter if you are voted a Captain or not, there should be "Actual Leaders" on the team whether designated or not. There has to be vocal leaders that will hold everyone accountable!!!!

 

The biggest problem I've seen with our team in the last decade is the lack of attitude, fire, swagger, etc. Call it whatever you want but I haven't seen it. And I think this is a direct correlation to the coaches. We need some coaches who can come in here and show these players what fire and attitude is, and to find leaders on the team that can step up and actually vocally do it.

 

One last question. When is the last time you saw a player on our team go up to another player and grab his facemask and give him the business??

My problem with Jason is he makes a lot of broad statements like that yet he's not around the team. How does he know there aren't leaders on the team? Apparently he didn't watch Rex at all this year or talk to any players at all. David was the same way on the defense. I'm sorry, just because you beat down some freshman on the team and demoralize him and bully him (a guy who's supposed to be your teammate BTW) it doesn't mean you're not a leader.

 

As far as the defense he's so against, he doesn't consider the fact that there are more than one way to skin a cat so to speak. Just because we ran a defense one way almost 20 years ago it doesn't mean any number of defenses wont work. BTW. . .McBride who he's pimping so hard likes this defense.

I think it comes from the fact that there seem to be a couple "lead by example" guys on the team (David, Burkhead) but no apparent vocal leaders on the sidelines during the actual games.

Yes, lead by example is great, but many players don't get motivated by lead by example. There has to be vocal leaders on the team. Show me a national championship team in the past 20 years that didn't have at least one major vocal leader!! It's about motivation and having your peers holding you accountable.

 

No one with a straight face can tell me they see the fire, fierce attitude, c$%k swagger, and unacceptance of a loss from this team over the last decade. It's just not there. Tired of hearing the "oh it was just one game, we have to put it behind us and move forward" crap.

 

The crazy thing is it can all come back with just one or two guys stepping up to be vocal leaders. And I agree with JPeter about getting rid of the rotating Captains. Vote for the captains! Guys who will step up and be vocal leaders. Guys who will call others out even if they're "all-americans." Allow the team to see who the leaders are at all times, they don't change game to game. This isn't high school anymore, not everyone needs to be coddled and made sure they get to be a captain at least once.

 

If we hire Jason Peter as our DC I will personally burn my Bo Pelini sweatshirt and hat and start a march on Lincoln until the entire football and athletic administration that allowed that to happen did the honorable thing and resigned.

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As far as Congdon you couldn't be more wrong.
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-American (Football Writers, Rivals.com, ESPN.com)
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (The Sporting News)
  • 2005 Second-Team All-Big 12 (AP, San Antonio Express News, Austin American-Statesman, Kansas City Star)
  • Nebraska Record for Field Goals in a Season (19)
  • First Nationally Among Freshmen in Field Goal Accuracy (.826)
  • Tied For 16th Nationally and Second in Big 12 in FG per Game (1.58)
  • 2006 Preseason Second-Team All-Big 12 (Lindy’s)
  • 2006 Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award Watch List
  • 2006 Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll
  • 2005 Big 12 Commissioner’s Fall Academic Honor Roll

He left after his Soph season. Said it was to be close to his Mom, but transfered to USC.

 

 

 

 

 

Jordan Congdon? You are arguing that Jordan Congdon was one of our great kickers?? You’ve got to be kidding me. Yeah, Congdon was great. So long as you don’t want to kick a FG anyplace outside the 25 yard line. Did he make a FG of longer than 40 yds? Ever?

 

Say, what NFL team does Congdon play for? I haven’t kept track of him. Because I don’t have a mancrush on the guy.

 

Yeah, wasn't Congdon our guy when we couldn't even kick a fricking field goal against Auburn in our bowl game because he didn't even have the leg to attempt it. Instead we had to go for it on 4th down and lost the game. Or am I misremembering?

 

No, you're not. Was there for that one--what a ******g embarrassment. Wish I had known then what I know now.

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I really don't care who we hire, as long as that person or those people can light a fire under our players' asses!! I saw JPeter on BRWU last night too. His biggest problem was the attitude and leadership. He doesn't see it with anyone on the team and I completely agree.

 

Where are the leaders!!!!???? I have just been completely frustrated by not seeing anyone on the field step up and get in guys faces. I understand the business-like approach but I don't think that's a good attitude for college football. That's a NFL attitude. In college you want to see that fire and love and all out attitudes. Watch LSU, Alabama, Oregon, hell even Boise. Those teams have a TON of fire on the field. You see guys holding other guys accountable.

 

JPeter also said how he is totally against a revolving Captain system. He feels b/c of this many guys aren't sure who to look at as the leaders. I do agree to some point, but as far as I'm considered, it shouldn't matter if you are voted a Captain or not, there should be "Actual Leaders" on the team whether designated or not. There has to be vocal leaders that will hold everyone accountable!!!!

 

The biggest problem I've seen with our team in the last decade is the lack of attitude, fire, swagger, etc. Call it whatever you want but I haven't seen it. And I think this is a direct correlation to the coaches. We need some coaches who can come in here and show these players what fire and attitude is, and to find leaders on the team that can step up and actually vocally do it.

 

One last question. When is the last time you saw a player on our team go up to another player and grab his facemask and give him the business??

 

The 2009 Iowa State Game. Marcel (or was it D.J.?) Jones got in Tray Robinson's face after he fumbled the ball on the goal line. It was kinda nasty.

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I really don't care who we hire, as long as that person or those people can light a fire under our players' asses!! I saw JPeter on BRWU last night too. His biggest problem was the attitude and leadership. He doesn't see it with anyone on the team and I completely agree.

 

Where are the leaders!!!!???? I have just been completely frustrated by not seeing anyone on the field step up and get in guys faces. I understand the business-like approach but I don't think that's a good attitude for college football. That's a NFL attitude. In college you want to see that fire and love and all out attitudes. Watch LSU, Alabama, Oregon, hell even Boise. Those teams have a TON of fire on the field. You see guys holding other guys accountable.

 

JPeter also said how he is totally against a revolving Captain system. He feels b/c of this many guys aren't sure who to look at as the leaders. I do agree to some point, but as far as I'm considered, it shouldn't matter if you are voted a Captain or not, there should be "Actual Leaders" on the team whether designated or not. There has to be vocal leaders that will hold everyone accountable!!!!

 

The biggest problem I've seen with our team in the last decade is the lack of attitude, fire, swagger, etc. Call it whatever you want but I haven't seen it. And I think this is a direct correlation to the coaches. We need some coaches who can come in here and show these players what fire and attitude is, and to find leaders on the team that can step up and actually vocally do it.

 

One last question. When is the last time you saw a player on our team go up to another player and grab his facemask and give him the business??

 

The 2009 Iowa State Game. Marcel (or was it D.J.?) Jones got in Tray Robinson's face after he fumbled the ball on the goal line. It was kinda nasty.

I remember that. Ultimately - no player needs to be getting in the face of another player....

 

...Bo does enough of that for everyone :)

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I really don't care who we hire, as long as that person or those people can light a fire under our players' asses!! I saw JPeter on BRWU last night too. His biggest problem was the attitude and leadership. He doesn't see it with anyone on the team and I completely agree.

 

Where are the leaders!!!!???? I have just been completely frustrated by not seeing anyone on the field step up and get in guys faces. I understand the business-like approach but I don't think that's a good attitude for college football. That's a NFL attitude. In college you want to see that fire and love and all out attitudes. Watch LSU, Alabama, Oregon, hell even Boise. Those teams have a TON of fire on the field. You see guys holding other guys accountable.

 

JPeter also said how he is totally against a revolving Captain system. He feels b/c of this many guys aren't sure who to look at as the leaders. I do agree to some point, but as far as I'm considered, it shouldn't matter if you are voted a Captain or not, there should be "Actual Leaders" on the team whether designated or not. There has to be vocal leaders that will hold everyone accountable!!!!

 

The biggest problem I've seen with our team in the last decade is the lack of attitude, fire, swagger, etc. Call it whatever you want but I haven't seen it. And I think this is a direct correlation to the coaches. We need some coaches who can come in here and show these players what fire and attitude is, and to find leaders on the team that can step up and actually vocally do it.

 

One last question. When is the last time you saw a player on our team go up to another player and grab his facemask and give him the business??

 

The 2009 Iowa State Game. Marcel (or was it D.J.?) Jones got in Tray Robinson's face after he fumbled the ball on the goal line. It was kinda nasty.

I remember that. Ultimately - no player needs to be getting in the face of another player....

 

...Bo does enough of that for everyone :)

 

Well, I think if a player gets in another player's face to fire him up and get him inspired, that's alright. What Marcel/D.J. did was done out of anger, though.

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As far as Congdon you couldn't be more wrong.
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-American (Football Writers, Rivals.com, ESPN.com)
  • 2005 First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (The Sporting News)
  • 2005 Second-Team All-Big 12 (AP, San Antonio Express News, Austin American-Statesman, Kansas City Star)
  • Nebraska Record for Field Goals in a Season (19)
  • First Nationally Among Freshmen in Field Goal Accuracy (.826)
  • Tied For 16th Nationally and Second in Big 12 in FG per Game (1.58)
  • 2006 Preseason Second-Team All-Big 12 (Lindy’s)
  • 2006 Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award Watch List
  • 2006 Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll
  • 2005 Big 12 Commissioner’s Fall Academic Honor Roll

He left after his Soph season. Said it was to be close to his Mom, but transfered to USC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jordan Congdon? You are arguing that Jordan Congdon was one of our great kickers?? You’ve got to be kidding me. Yeah, Congdon was great. So long as you don’t want to kick a FG anyplace outside the 25 yard line. Did he make a FG of longer than 40 yds? Ever?

 

Say, what NFL team does Congdon play for? I haven’t kept track of him. Because I don’t have a mancrush on the guy.

 

Yeah, wasn't Congdon our guy when we couldn't even kick a fricking field goal against Auburn in our bowl game because he didn't even have the leg to attempt it. Instead we had to go for it on 4th down and lost the game. Or am I misremembering?

 

No, you're not. Was there for that one--what a ******g embarrassment. Wish I had known then what I know now.

Yes, He did not have a strong leg, but was pretty accurate inside 40. I would not call him a great kicker, but he was good. NUance is butt hurt because I called him out for making it sound like we have had a line of great kickers since the mid -90's. I just pointed out how Sandro DeAngelis & David Dyches were not very good at all.

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Yes, He did not have a strong leg, but was pretty accurate inside 40.

 

Congdon missed both FG attempts against Pittsburgh in 2005, from 26 and 38 yards, going 0-2 for the game.

Against Iowa State he went 2-3, with his lone miss coming from 21 yards. He made FGs from 30 and 23 yards.

Against Colorado he went 3-4, with his lone miss coming from 28 yards. He made FGs from 26, 30 and 32 yards.

 

That's three misses inside thirty yards in one season alone. That's not good.

 

For his college career he was a 75% FG kicker.

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Yes, He did not have a strong leg, but was pretty accurate inside 40. I would not call him a great kicker, but he was good. NUance is butt hurt because I called him out for making it sound like we have had a line of great kickers since the mid -90's. I just pointed out how Sandro DeAngelis & David Dyches were not very good at all.

Heck, I’m not butt hurt at all. In fact I don’t know why you’d even be concerned with my butt—unless that’s the type of thing that concerns you. But I am a little confused trying to follow your logic. I said above that we've had some of the best kickers/punters in the nation for some time now—going back to our mid-90s MNC runs. I didn’t say we had the best in the nation every single year back to that time. And when you mentioned Congdon as the example of a kicker who was good beyond 35 yards, I pointed out that his max range was about 40 yards. So he wasn’t really that good of a kicker, despite all the freshman awards. I'd say Congdon is one of the gaps in our line of great kickers. In fact, the two guys you mentioned as bad examples, David Dyches and Sandro DeAngeles, were both better than Congdon. At least Dyches was—DeAngeles only kicked for like half a year or something before Dyches beat him out. IIRC, Dyches single handedly saved our bacon when Penn State visited Memorial Stadium back on ’03.

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