TheW0rld Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I don't think the number 2 QB is on campus yet. JMHO. Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Unless Martinez gets hurt no one is going to get snaps. Discussion over Honestly, the most accurate post I have read in quite some time. So far, Bo has shown a desire or predisposition to not have anyone, but the starters take meaningful snaps. I liked an article about our O line developing depth by having the guys run 8-9 plays and then bring in the 2's. Garrison said their old way (3 plays and switch) developed a 3 and out mentality on O and also did not get the guys in "game shape" to run a significant number of plays full speed in a real game. He said this will improve their game conditioning. We need to desperately get a bona fide #2 who can a) push Martinez b) give a change of pace if the D is teeing off on Martinez c) have a guy ready if Martinez gets hurt who can actually come in and play at a high level with the same knowledge of the O as Martinez d) have a guy who the coaches can come in who they feel can play to win as opposed to sending in a guy whom the staff has play to not lose I could care less if the #2 is RKIII, Carnes, Armstrong or anyone so long as this guy is capable of winning. I thought that was Joseph who started doing it with his group, don't recall reading Garrison was doing it also. If so, I like the change. Quote Link to comment
Jaybird Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I don't think the number 2 QB is on campus yet. JMHO. Could be, and if he is as good as some say I would be ok with that! I really don't care who it is I just want someone that can get some reps! Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Unless Martinez gets hurt no one is going to get snaps. Discussion over Honestly, the most accurate post I have read in quite some time. So far, Bo has shown a desire or predisposition to not have anyone, but the starters take meaningful snaps. I liked an article about our O line developing depth by having the guys run 8-9 plays and then bring in the 2's. Garrison said their old way (3 plays and switch) developed a 3 and out mentality on O and also did not get the guys in "game shape" to run a significant number of plays full speed in a real game. He said this will improve their game conditioning. We need to desperately get a bona fide #2 who can a) push Martinez b) give a change of pace if the D is teeing off on Martinez c) have a guy ready if Martinez gets hurt who can actually come in and play at a high level with the same knowledge of the O as Martinez d) have a guy who the coaches can come in who they feel can play to win as opposed to sending in a guy whom the staff has play to not lose I could care less if the #2 is RKIII, Carnes, Armstrong or anyone so long as this guy is capable of winning. I thought that was Joseph who started doing it with his group, don't recall reading Garrison was doing it also. If so, I like the change. IIRC Brown started it with his guys and it is getting used by others. I think Brown was also given credit for starting the "ram" drill initially with the TE's and WR's. I will try and find the article and post a link. Here is the link. Says Brown authored the drill so unsure if he started or copied the drill. http://www.omaha.com/article/20120406/BIGRED/704069878 Quote Link to comment
'SkersRule Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I really like the idea of sumo style one on one competition before practice. Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Martinez, Carnes, RK3...Armstrong should 100% redshirt. I'm fine with not playing a backup QB, but when things are going terrible and you give someone a chance to turn it around and they aren't, you gotta put someone else in. Member Martinez was 50% 2 years ago and he was hobbling around, but we still played him? Would have been better off putting a walk on in at that point. He has some questionable decisions on guys who I feel should have played more. Point being Martinez 100% can't be a game manager for us to win the Big 10 title, that's not his game... UNLEASH! Quote Link to comment
Lil' Red Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 How does Turner figure into the equation? Is he still getting snaps at QB or does he have his undivided focus on receiver? Quote Link to comment
tschu Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 OP, what is your source? I hate all random speculation Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Bo just sent me a message on Facebook, he's thinking of letting Rex take the starting snaps for at least a few games. Just thought you guys should know... Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Honestly, the most accurate post I have read in quite some time. So far, Bo has shown a desire or predisposition to not have anyone, but the starters take meaningful snaps. I liked an article about our O line developing depth by having the guys run 8-9 plays and then bring in the 2's. Garrison said their old way (3 plays and switch) developed a 3 and out mentality on O and also did not get the guys in "game shape" to run a significant number of plays full speed in a real game. He said this will improve their game conditioning. We need to desperately get a bona fide #2 who can a) push Martinez b) give a change of pace if the D is teeing off on Martinez c) have a guy ready if Martinez gets hurt who can actually come in and play at a high level with the same knowledge of the O as Martinez d) have a guy who the coaches can come in who they feel can play to win as opposed to sending in a guy whom the staff has play to not lose I could care less if the #2 is RKIII, Carnes, Armstrong or anyone so long as this guy is capable of winning. I like this post except for the first line. I see people say this, and it couldn't be further from the truth. Everybody looks at the skill position guys and says "Pelini doesn't give people meaningful snaps to anybody but the starters." This is a very narrow point of view and a little naive. Pelini has his starters take the most meaningful snaps - newsflash, every head coach does this. You want the back-ups getting meaningful snaps? Fine. Get the guys to be up 40-10 at half like it's 1995 again. I watch a lot of college football, and Pelini does very little different from most of the other coaches I watch. Your starters get the snaps at skill positions save a few breathing spots, and then you rotate bodies on the line (which, Pelini has actually done a lot of this). 1 Quote Link to comment
'SkersRule Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 My only thought about Tommy Armstrong is that if he comes in and plays then he needs to play a lot to justify it. Otherwise, redshirt him and then give him a realistic chance to become the #1 QB as a redshirt sophomore instead of a true junior. Quote Link to comment
husker B-rent Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 you guys might be surprised. Kellog has not passed Carnes but it is getting closer and closer. if it keeps up and coaches play the best player then kellog may just be numero dos. and no im not giving you any sources. Quote Link to comment
'SkersRule Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 you guys might be surprised. Kellog has not passed Carnes but it is getting closer and closer. if it keeps up and coaches play the best player then kellog may just be numero dos. and no im not giving you any sources. Ummm that was actually mentioned in an article from the World Hearld and linked here............ Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Unless Martinez gets hurt no one is going to get snaps. Discussion over Honestly, the most accurate post I have read in quite some time. So far, Bo has shown a desire or predisposition to not have anyone, but the starters take meaningful snaps. Huh? I have to disagree. When we aren't playing close games, we play backups. Problem is, we haven't had alot of blowout wins. Carnes played in every blowout win, a whopping 3 games. He also had a very basic grasp of the offense, and the coaches weren't comfortable throwing him into the fire ala beau davis. We play the backups, when we actually have comparable depth. Quote Link to comment
Hunter94 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 How does Turner figure into the equation? Is he still getting snaps at QB or does he have his undivided focus on receiver? Quote Link to comment
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