B.B. Hemingway Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Where is the Chosen 1 at? It's easy to hate when games like this come around lol.... Leonard is playing stellar defense on Lebron right now (maybe the best I've ever seen anyone play him). I would expect the Heat to respond in Game 4. It's time for Lebron to take over, because outside of Miller and Cole, the rest of the roster has failed to show up this series.... This is not ONE GAME comes around. This is the entire series. This is put-up or shut-up ... and he has been shut-up. He came to Miami to hide in situations like this. If Wade and Bosh aren't superb, he can't hide. People try to blame it on Wade and Bosh. Funny thing about that, they are MUCH closer to their regular season stats this series than LeBron. Oh, and getting those stats they are playing less minutes, Bron is playing more. Lebron has played more minutes than Wade and Bosh all year long. That is not a "finals" situation, that has been happening all year long....You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. They have completely failed to show up the entire playoff run.... BRon's stats are down in the finals? That surprises you? He doesn't play the Spurs 82 games during the regular season! When in a series against the Spurs it would seem obvious (to most) that his numbers might drop..... Has he played great? No, but this is far from on his shoulders.... 17 pts., 12 rebs., 7 assists, 2 steals? No, you're right, that guy is horrible.... Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Lebron has played more minutes than Wade and Bosh all year long. That is not a "finals" situation, that has been happening all year long....You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. They have completely failed to show up the entire playoff run.... BRon's stats are down in the finals? That surprises you? He doesn't play the Spurs 82 games during the regular season! When in a series against the Spurs it would seem obvious (to most) that his numbers might drop..... Has he played great? No, but this is far from on his shoulders.... 17 pts., 12 rebs., 7 assists, 2 steals? No, you're right, that guy is horrible.... His over/under in the last game was -32. They lost by 36. Coincidence? I think not. You could put it all on his teammates' shoulders in any game in the Eastern Conference playoff run. In the finals, it's ALL on Lebron up to this point. This series, he has got plenty of help from Wade, Miller, Allen, Cole, Chalmers, Haslem, and Bosh. And on the defensive end, the Birdman has been a spark through the entire playoffs. Any lack of success from the Heat in the Finals falls directly on Lebron's shoulders, and you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise. Quote Link to comment
QMany Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. Compared to the regular-season, here are their statistic differences for the Finals. PLAYER A: -18% FG -10.1 PPG +3 minutes PLAYER B: -8% FG -6.8 PPG -1 minutes PLAYER C: -9% FG -4.3 PPG -0.5 minutes Please tell me who is "largely the problem?" Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Lebron has played more minutes than Wade and Bosh all year long. That is not a "finals" situation, that has been happening all year long....You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. They have completely failed to show up the entire playoff run.... BRon's stats are down in the finals? That surprises you? He doesn't play the Spurs 82 games during the regular season! When in a series against the Spurs it would seem obvious (to most) that his numbers might drop..... Has he played great? No, but this is far from on his shoulders.... 17 pts., 12 rebs., 7 assists, 2 steals? No, you're right, that guy is horrible.... His over/under in the last game was -32. They lost by 36. Coincidence? I think not. You could put it all on his teammates' shoulders in any game in the Eastern Conference playoff run. In the finals, it's ALL on Lebron up to this point. This series, he has got plenty of help from Wade, Miller, Allen, Cole, Chalmers, Haslem, and Bosh. And on the defensive end, the Birdman has been a spark through the entire playoffs. Any lack of success from the Heat in the Finals falls directly on Lebron's shoulders, and you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise. That statement is beyond ridiculous.... Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. Compared to the regular-season, here are their statistic differences for the Finals. PLAYER A: -18% FG -10.1 PPG +3 minutes PLAYER B: -8% FG -6.8 PPG -1 minutes PLAYER C: -9% FG -4.3 PPG -0.5 minutes Please tell me who is "largely the problem?" Numbers don't always tell the story in sports (you should know that). I think that Wade's pre-finals statement about Bosh and himself needing more shots has altered Lebron's game to this point. Like I said, he hasn't played well to this point, but he has received little, to no help from Wade, or Bosh. The opportunities are there for both, and they are failing. A great defensive team like San Antonio can stop a superstar if his role players aren't responding. Whether Wade, and Bosh like it or not, on this team they are ROLE players.... They knew the deal when they talked Lebron into coming to South Beach.... The comparison's to Jordan really annoy me. He is a completely different player than Jordan. A true Magic/Jordan hybrid (as has been said many times before).... Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I don't need numbers to tell me LeBron played like a pu&&y. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Numbers don't always tell the story in sports (you should know that). I think that Wade's pre-finals statement about Bosh and himself needing more shots has altered Lebron's game to this point. Like I said, he hasn't played well to this point, but he has received little, to no help from Wade, or Bosh. The opportunities are there for both, and they are failing. A great defensive team like San Antonio can stop a superstar if his role players aren't responding. Whether Wade, and Bosh like it or not, on this team they are ROLE players.... They knew the deal when they talked Lebron into coming to South Beach.... The comparison's to Jordan really annoy me. He is a completely different player than Jordan. A true Magic/Jordan hybrid (as has been said many times before).... If the bolded is true then he really doesn't belong in the all-time greatest conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment
ADS Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I don't need numbers to tell me LeBron played like a pu&&y. This, jut watching him last game showed that he still does get timid. But if you want numbers than 3 for 15 mid way through the 3rd quarter, and not to mention ZERO free throw attempts the entire game should tell you everything you need to know. Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Lebron has played more minutes than Wade and Bosh all year long. That is not a "finals" situation, that has been happening all year long....You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. They have completely failed to show up the entire playoff run.... BRon's stats are down in the finals? That surprises you? He doesn't play the Spurs 82 games during the regular season! When in a series against the Spurs it would seem obvious (to most) that his numbers might drop..... Has he played great? No, but this is far from on his shoulders.... 17 pts., 12 rebs., 7 assists, 2 steals? No, you're right, that guy is horrible.... His over/under in the last game was -32. They lost by 36. Coincidence? I think not. You could put it all on his teammates' shoulders in any game in the Eastern Conference playoff run. In the finals, it's ALL on Lebron up to this point. This series, he has got plenty of help from Wade, Miller, Allen, Cole, Chalmers, Haslem, and Bosh. And on the defensive end, the Birdman has been a spark through the entire playoffs. Any lack of success from the Heat in the Finals falls directly on Lebron's shoulders, and you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise. That statement is beyond ridiculous.... Not really. Aside from about 10 minutes in game 2 and about 2 minutes in game 3, LBJ has been sleep walking. It's all on him right now. Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Numbers don't always tell the story in sports (you should know that). I think that Wade's pre-finals statement about Bosh and himself needing more shots has altered Lebron's game to this point. Like I said, he hasn't played well to this point, but he has received little, to no help from Wade, or Bosh. The opportunities are there for both, and they are failing. A great defensive team like San Antonio can stop a superstar if his role players aren't responding. Whether Wade, and Bosh like it or not, on this team they are ROLE players.... They knew the deal when they talked Lebron into coming to South Beach.... The comparison's to Jordan really annoy me. He is a completely different player than Jordan. A true Magic/Jordan hybrid (as has been said many times before).... If the bolded is true then he really doesn't belong in the all-time greatest conversation. How so? He clearly feels the need to get Wade involved in the game.... Again, being an elite distributor is part of his game.... Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Lebron has played more minutes than Wade and Bosh all year long. That is not a "finals" situation, that has been happening all year long....You're kidding yourself if you think that Wade and Bosh aren't largely the problem. They have completely failed to show up the entire playoff run.... BRon's stats are down in the finals? That surprises you? He doesn't play the Spurs 82 games during the regular season! When in a series against the Spurs it would seem obvious (to most) that his numbers might drop..... Has he played great? No, but this is far from on his shoulders.... 17 pts., 12 rebs., 7 assists, 2 steals? No, you're right, that guy is horrible.... His over/under in the last game was -32. They lost by 36. Coincidence? I think not. You could put it all on his teammates' shoulders in any game in the Eastern Conference playoff run. In the finals, it's ALL on Lebron up to this point. This series, he has got plenty of help from Wade, Miller, Allen, Cole, Chalmers, Haslem, and Bosh. And on the defensive end, the Birdman has been a spark through the entire playoffs. Any lack of success from the Heat in the Finals falls directly on Lebron's shoulders, and you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise. That statement is beyond ridiculous.... Not really. Aside from about 10 minutes in game 2 and about 2 minutes in game 3, LBJ has been sleep walking. It's all on him right now. He should shoulder some of the blame (too his credit, he did that in the postgame presser), but "all on him" is a ridiculous exaggeration.... Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Numbers don't always tell the story in sports (you should know that). I think that Wade's pre-finals statement about Bosh and himself needing more shots has altered Lebron's game to this point. Like I said, he hasn't played well to this point, but he has received little, to no help from Wade, or Bosh. The opportunities are there for both, and they are failing. A great defensive team like San Antonio can stop a superstar if his role players aren't responding. Whether Wade, and Bosh like it or not, on this team they are ROLE players.... They knew the deal when they talked Lebron into coming to South Beach.... The comparison's to Jordan really annoy me. He is a completely different player than Jordan. A true Magic/Jordan hybrid (as has been said many times before).... If the bolded is true then he really doesn't belong in the all-time greatest conversation. How so? He clearly feels the need to get Wade involved in the game.... Again, being an elite distributor is part of his game.... Saying he's an elite distributor is an excuse that people use when Lebron isn't doing the things he needs to do to win. If being a passive distributor is what he (or anyone) thinks is going to help his team win games, then it just proves that he hasn't learned how to win, even after 10 years in the league. Either Lebron just doesn't know how to handle the situation, or he would rather take a back seat and let his teammates win his title for him, kind of like he did last year in the finals to an extent. Quote Link to comment
RedRedJarvisRedwine Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Spurs gotta feel good. They knew the Heat were gonna come out with their hair on fire. Only down 3 after 1. If Lebron and Wade have to exert that much energy and carry that big of an offensive load, then I don't like Miamis chances in the 4th quarter of a tight game. Quote Link to comment
wiuhusker Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 The NBA needs to install a more severe penalty for flopping. 5k isn't going to do the trick. It has gotten way out of hand and they playoffs in general have been hard to watch at times due to all the flopping going on. Quote Link to comment
PaulCrewe Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 So the league got to the officials. Hmm........ Our maybe it was espn so they can lead sportscenter off with a Lebron story for another week. Some of these calls on SA have been beyond weak. Quote Link to comment
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