PaulCrewe Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm done with this. My point is fans should temper expectations after a game. Said after Taylor burst onto the scene. If that was the basis for all arguments, then RKIII should start. And here are two "facts" that sport that claim after todays game against a juggernaut defense. Higher completion percentage and he didn't turn the ball over. See I can skew stats km favor of any argument. There are way more pressing concerns with this team them the quarterback. Quote Link to comment
beanman Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 You mean lead the team on a game winning drive with six seconds left? You forgot that part. Already mentioned that above butt-wipe. We never should have been behind. He was a big part of that deficit we were in. That's the best you could do? C-mon man ass-wipe? Quote Link to comment
Shockley03 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Wow! I just bought the Big Ten Network package so I could catch Tommy Armstrong's debut. Wow is all I can say at this point. Krc1995, he reminded me of the player inside your picture. I'm referring to Turner Gill. Gill was my hero! He started for Nebraska when I was in the 8th grade. Tommy Armstrong is another Turner Gill. Things look good in Husker-ville, Lincoln, Nebraska again! I'm excited about it. The only challenge from here on out is just a matter of hoping that our coaching staff will figure out what to do with all of their talent in that position. I still remember (and this one's for you Bucky from Wis.) Russell Wilson just laying waste to Taylor Martinez a few years ago in a regular season matchup with Wisconsin. (I already knew plenty about Russell Wilson's skillset from being with NC State earlier) It was such a rude awakening---an ugly blowout loss. If Cornhusker fans want to continue on this road down a pathway that leads to uncertainty, then can we stick with T-Mart? He's built up great stats -- and wins and losses record overall too. But T-Mart struggles mightily when the stage is bigger. The bigger the stage, the tougher it is for him. Is this what we want for the rest of the year? I recall when Florida State (about a decade ago) had a brilliant talent in a QB named Chris Rix. But all through his career in Tallahassee, Rix gave his fan base so much unrest because -- like T-Mart -- he just seemed to struggle mightily when the stage got bigger. He made turnovers in times when coach Bobby Bowden could least afford them. FSU didn't reach its potential a decade ago because of Rix's inconsistency. People don't want us to discuss this, but we know what we have in T-Mart. All of us do. I remember when Mike Grant stepped aside for Tommie Frazier back in 1992. Grant did it with so much class. And Mike Grant was a good runner too. Grant could explode. I also recall Grant having the deer-in-the-headlights look against Washington in early Sept. of that year in a 29-14 loss in that away game. It really comes down to the coaches with all of this. I just remember my older brother explaining to me about Bobby Bowden's and Florida State's delimma with its 4 year starter in senior Chris Rix those approximate 10 years ago or so. He said to me, "You know---here's the problem.....Florida State's QB Chris Rix is as average as grits." Quote Link to comment
beanman Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm done with this. My point is fans should temper expectations after a game. Said after Taylor burst onto the scene. If that was the basis for all arguments, then RKIII should start. And here are two "facts" that sport that claim after todays game against a juggernaut defense. Higher completion percentage and he didn't turn the ball over. See I can skew stats km favor of any argument. There are way more pressing concerns with this team them the quarterback. It's not that my expectations of TA are that high, it's that my expectations from Taylor have been so low for the past 3 years. If he could hold onto the damn ball and not toss picks in big games then I'd be just fine with the guy. But he's wildly inconsistent. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 There are way more pressing concerns with this team them the quarterback. We just didn't think it would be coming into the season. It has been. Quote Link to comment
beanman Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Wow! I just got bought the Big Ten Network package so I could catch Tommy Armstrong's debut. Wow is all I can say at this point. Krc1995, he reminded me of the player inside your picture. I'm referring to Turner Gill. Gill was my hero! He started for Nebraska when I was in the 8th grade. Tommy Armstrong is another Turner Gill. Things look good in Husker-ville, Lincoln, Nebraska again! I'm excited about it. The only challenge from here on out is just a matter of hoping that our coaching staff will figure out what to do with all of their talent in that position. I still remember (and this one's for you Bucky from Wis.) Russell Wilson just laying waste to Taylor Martinez a few years ago in a regular season matchup with Wisconsin. (I already knew plenty about Russell Wilson's skillset from being with NC State earlier) It was such a rude awakening---an ugly blowout loss. If Cornhusker fans want to continue on this road down a pathway that leads to uncertainty, then we can stick with T-Mart. He's built up great stats -- and wins and losses record overall too. But T-Mart struggles mightily when the stage is bigger. The bigger the stage, the tougher it is for him. Is this what we want for the rest of the year? I recall when Florida State (about a decade ago) had a brilliant talent in a QB named Chris Rix. But all through his career in Tallahassee, Rix gave his fan base so much unrest because -- like T-Mart -- he just seemed to struggle mightily when the stage got bigger. He made turnovers in times when coach Bobby Bowden could least afford them. FSU didn't reach its potential a decade ago because of Rix's inconsistency. People don't want us to discuss this, but we know what we have in T-Mart. All of us do. I remember when Mike Grant stepped aside for Tommie Frazier back in 1992. Grant did it with so much class. And Mike Grant was a good runner too. Grant could explode. I also recall Grant having the deer-in-the-headlights look against Washington in early Sept. of that year in a 29-14 loss in that away game. It really comes down to the coaches with all of this. I just remember my older brother explaining to me about Bobby Bowden's and Florida State's delimma with its 4 year starter in senior Chris Rix those approximate 10 years ago or so. He said to me, "You know---here's the problem.....Florida State's QB Chris Rix is as average as grits." Jeez settle down dude. You're helping make Crewe's point. Quote Link to comment
RedPhoenix Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm done with this. My point is fans should temper expectations after a game. Said after Taylor burst onto the scene. If that was the basis for all arguments, then RKIII should start. And here are two "facts" that sport that claim after todays game against a juggernaut defense. Higher completion percentage and he didn't turn the ball over. See I can skew stats km favor of any argument. There are way more pressing concerns with this team them the quarterback. QB is a primary concern. Tommy didn't turn the ball over either that I recall. Quote Link to comment
PaulCrewe Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm done with this. My point is fans should temper expectations after a game. Said after Taylor burst onto the scene. If that was the basis for all arguments, then RKIII should start. And here are two "facts" that sport that claim after todays game against a juggernaut defense. Higher completion percentage and he didn't turn the ball over. See I can skew stats km favor of any argument. There are way more pressing concerns with this team them the quarterback. QB is a primary concern. Tommy didn't turn the ball over either that I recall. sorry your right he fumbled but Westerkamp got it back. You get one point back from me Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Taylor shouldn't have lost his starting spot simply because he didn't play and Tommy played against South Dakota State. I loved the way Tommy plays and I think that the spot is open to much more controversy. Tommy is a bright spot for the future, no doubt, but let's not overreact to a great game against South Dakota State. Quote Link to comment
RedPhoenix Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm done with this. My point is fans should temper expectations after a game. Said after Taylor burst onto the scene. If that was the basis for all arguments, then RKIII should start. And here are two "facts" that sport that claim after todays game against a juggernaut defense. Higher completion percentage and he didn't turn the ball over. See I can skew stats km favor of any argument. There are way more pressing concerns with this team them the quarterback. QB is a primary concern. Tommy didn't turn the ball over either that I recall. sorry your right he fumbled but Westerkamp got it back. You get one point back from meI never lost any points. I'm always right. Quote Link to comment
Frida's Boss Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 God I've been as critical as anyone considering the play of Taylor yet here I am defending him to guys that probably have 20+ national titles on their NCAA dynasties. It was one game. You are the fan that gets ubber geeked after spring game performances to, aren't you???? I get über geeked when I see a real QB with talent. Tommy is that QB. Stanton may also be that QB. So obviously you creamed your pants watching Brion a couple our years ago. And thus must be the greatest qb evaluator ever. You also have to be the poster from husker max. Enough said. Why does this matter? Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Unbelievable..... Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 One thing I did notice today. As soon as NU took the field, TA broke the huddle and AA came up to him and said something. They then slapped hands and off they went. Sure it could have been first game comments, but it seemed like folks already were looking at TA as the leader. It was a simple gesture that was one of the "biggest" I have seen between a QB and a player in a long time at NU. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Turf toe's nagging. If Taylor isn't 100% I am OK with the continuing rotation of Tommy and Ron. Keeps both guys a little steady by taking some of the pressure off. For some reason it might just work, though it's not logical. As for Taylor's run threat back, even if he has all of it I'm not convinced we need it. That extra 'dimension' comes either on the read option plays we don't seem to run much anymore, or scrambles / QB draws. It's just something where I think this team is more than capable of providing the rushing output to cover if Taylor can't go. And at this point I don't know how much of an edge Taylor has in the other areas of his game -- pocket presence, veteran savvy, experience reading defenses pre-snap, command of the huddle - to justify starting him unless he's totally healthy. I was skeptical of what we'd see with either guy out there even against an FCS team, but they were both SHARP. All of this said, if Taylor's good to go he goes vs Illinois. It doesn't serve anyone, including his backups, to have it any other way. 2 Quote Link to comment
Knoxville Husker Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'd be fine with TM as our permanent clipboard holder. Quote Link to comment
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