knapplc Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We have good relations with Vietnam. Until Putin went insane we've had good relations with Russia. We have major trade agreements with China. Why can't we end this stupid Cuba spat? We can either keep an enemy we helped create 90 miles off our shore or we can make friends and flip them to the Light Side that way. Clearly the embargo hasn't worked. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We have good relations with Vietnam. Until Putin went insane we've had good relations with Russia. We have major trade agreements with China. Why can't we end this stupid Cuba spat? We can either keep an enemy we helped create 90 miles off our shore or we can make friends and flip them to the Light Side that way. Clearly the embargo hasn't worked. agree 100%. Seems that the only reason this went on so long was both parties trying to secure the Cuban American votes and therefore the Florida electoral college #s. This has not made any sense since the fall of the Soviet Union. On one hand we have the largest communist country as our biggest trading partner in China and yet we snub the small island nation 90 miles away. As Knapp said, we could have flipped them to the democracy side by now. If the relationships had been normalized decades ago, capitalism may have flipped the nation towards democracy in spite of the Castro brothers. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We have good relations with Vietnam. Until Putin went insane we've had good relations with Russia. We have major trade agreements with China. Why can't we end this stupid Cuba spat? We can either keep an enemy we helped create 90 miles off our shore or we can make friends and flip them to the Light Side that way. Clearly the embargo hasn't worked. agree 100%. Seems that the only reason this went on so long was both parties trying to secure the Cuban American votes and therefore the Florida electoral college #s. This has not made any sense since the fall of the Soviet Union. On one hand we have the largest communist country as our biggest trading partner in China and yet we snub the small island nation 90 miles away. As Knapp said, we could have flipped them to the democracy side by now. If the relationships had been normalized decades ago, capitalism may have flipped the nation towards democracy in spite of the Castro brothers. Here is what I have never understood about the Cuban embargo. I remember a few years ago, our governor traveling to Cuba and marketing Nebraska ag products and coming back and ranting about what a great trip it was for the state farmers. Meanwhile, I had a customer that was located not in the US who wanted to resell products into Cuba. We were told we would be in deep doodoo if that happened because of the embargo. That made absolutely no scents to me. Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The significant question here is...does Cuba become our 51st state or simply an American territory? Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The significant question here is...does Cuba become our 51st state or simply an American territory? Sure, why not. Add them and Puerto Rico. Link to comment
NUance Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The significant question here is...does Cuba become our 51st state or simply an American territory? Sure, why not. Add them and Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, the new state. Cuba, a new territory. IMHO. Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The significant question here is...does Cuba become our 51st state or simply an American territory? Sure, why not. Add them and Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, the new state. Cuba, a new territory. IMHO. Just make sure to bring the rum. Link to comment
NUance Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The significant question here is...does Cuba become our 51st state or simply an American territory? Sure, why not. Add them and Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, the new state. Cuba, a new territory. IMHO. Just make sure to bring the rum. And cigars! lol Link to comment
gobiggergoredder Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's a money grab. Taxpayer money will be used to everything from weapons, drugs, and general aide. Elite will also purchase land that will almost certainly go up in value. Corporations will go in and exploit the low cost labor that is just miles from the states. More taxpayer money flows out and comes back to the elite. We lose. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have mixed feelings about Puerto Rico becoming a state. I love it just the way it is and want to live there some day. Then I also believe they deserve to be a state and think they will be soon. I just don't want it to change much. Link to comment
ZRod Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 We have good relations with Vietnam. Until Putin went insane we've had good relations with Russia. We have major trade agreements with China. Why can't we end this stupid Cuba spat?We can either keep an enemy we helped create 90 miles off our shore or we can make friends and flip them to the Light Side that way. Clearly the embargo hasn't worked. So you want to support state sponsored terrorism now? Link to comment
walksalone Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The significant question here is...does Cuba become our 51st state or simply an American territory? Sure, why not. Add them and Puerto Rico. You've already got New York City... Link to comment
gobiggergoredder Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have mixed feelings about Puerto Rico becoming a state. I love it just the way it is and want to live there some day. Then I also believe they deserve to be a state and think they will be soon. I just don't want it to change much. Over the last couple I've had the chance to work with 50+ Puertp Ricans. The comments are consistent. The country is beautiful, the economy is bad and the crime has pushed the educated out.I can only recall one person returning to PR. Most want to stay in Nebraska or States. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have mixed feelings about Puerto Rico becoming a state. I love it just the way it is and want to live there some day. Then I also believe they deserve to be a state and think they will be soon. I just don't want it to change much. Over the last couple I've had the chance to work with 50+ Puertp Ricans. The comments are consistent. The country is beautiful, the economy is bad and the crime has pushed the educated out.I can only recall one person returning to PR. Most want to stay in Nebraska or States. I have a very large customer there so I spend some time there actually with locals and away from tourist traps. I understand what you are saying. However, there are some very nice areas of PR and I have never felt unsafe when I'm there. I drive all over the island and only after dark to I really try to stay away from some areas. No different than any other city in the US. However, the PR residents I know, want to be a state. They love the US and actually want to pay taxes and contribute to the country more than they are now. In turn, maybe some of the crime issues and economic issues can improve. Of course people have moved away...moved for a reason. They didn't want to live there anymore. And, people who still live there live there for a reason...they like it and want to make it better. No different than people who move away from Nebraska compared to the ones who grew up here and stayed. Link to comment
T_O_Bull Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Does this mean I can go fishing in Cuba now? I have very much wanted to do this. Southern Cuba has great fishing. T_O_B Link to comment
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