ADS Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Coach Bray said there are guys that never saw a rep in practice with the old staff. So based on that fact alone, this new staff is a major upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm blown away by that Bray quote today. Quote Link to comment
Haspula Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I thought it was very sad indeed that Nebraska was spending millions on the coaching payroll and Martinez had to hire his own coach during the offseason. Red herring homie. Tons of quarterbacks, even at schools with great quarterback development, do this. It's rather common. For instance, Jameis Winston and Johnny Manziel both had offseason quarterback coaching outside of their respective schools. And Johnny was with Whitfield last summer http://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/Johnny-Stanton-working-out-in-offseason-28715024 Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Coach Bray said there are guys that never saw a rep in practice with the old staff. So based on that fact alone, this new staff is a major upgrade. wat. Quote Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I thought it was very sad indeed that Nebraska was spending millions on the coaching payroll and Martinez had to hire his own coach during the offseason. Red herring homie. Tons of quarterbacks, even at schools with great quarterback development, do this. It's rather common. For instance, Jameis Winston and Johnny Manziel both had offseason quarterback coaching outside of their respective schools. Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Braxton Miller, Johnny Manziel, Tajh Boyd and others all went to George Whitfield Jr at some point in time during their respective off seasons over the years. It isn't uncommon at all. Bowfin's got a point, though. The guys you guys listed all won Heismans, very nearly did, led their teams to BCS games, or are NFL franchise QBs. The one he listed had glaring mechanical flaws and his teams never lost less than four games. Last year we has the same problem with TA. QB teaching and progression was garbage at NU under the old staff. It illustrates how important QB play is to successful teams, and big a factor it was in Bo teams never getting over the hump. What do you know? SE s-cans them and brings in a staff with two notes QB gurus. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Bowfin's got a point, though. The guys you guys listed all won Heismans, very nearly did, led their teams to BCS games, or are NFL franchise QBs. The one he listed had glaring mechanical flaws and his teams never lost less than four games. Last year we has the same problem with TA. QB teaching and progression was garbage at NU under the old staff. It illustrates how important QB play is to successful teams, and big a factor it was in Bo teams never getting over the hump. Not really. The one he listed was the B1G 1st team quarterback as picked by the coaches. We were no closer or further away with Joe Ganz and Taylor Martinez than we were with Cody Green and Ron Kellogg. Quote Link to comment
walksalone Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I haven't heard the interview but I remember someone referencing it. If that's the case, it casts further doubt on my perception of Brown as a good Christian. For me, a good leader is someone who stands up for their principles and adapts their beliefs as times change of new material comes to light. Seems to me that even if Bo is allowing Brown to continue his ministry, he still wouldn't be someone who turns a blind eye to someone calling a final team meeting berate the administration. Disrespect is disrespect in any language and calling someone a cunthursday is disrespectful. If Brown made the calculated decision to follow that mouth breather because it allows him to devote energy to his ministry, it only makes me question his principles even more. You don't think he's a good Christian because he's trying to use a less-than-perfect situation/man to further his own desire to show people Jesus? Does that mean that Christians shouldn't use the internet? After all, the internet contains pornography and has caused people to kill themselves. Does that mean that Christians shouldn't wear Nike or buy Macs or eat chocolate? After all, those products come at least in part from slave labor. Does that mean that Christians shouldn't work at public universities? Those universities probably promote worldviews that are against Christian doctrine. It's called trying to redeem a situation that ISN'T devoted to the cause of Christianity, and using it towards that cause anyways. I don't get how that is a knock on someone's Christian faith. Oh boo hoo. Calm down. I don't know Ron Brown but since this is the internet and we're allowed to anonymously speculate about peoples moral fiber, I voiced my opinion. It is odd, to me, that Ron Brown followed Pelini. Their character traits don't seem to match. And if Brown is using pelini to "further his own desire to show people jesus" and "trying to redeem a situation that isn't devoted to the cause of Christianity," then I question his principles. If this is so important, go be a effing preacher, not a football coach. Brown is a coach because his megaphone is louder and that irritates me. Maybe it's not a knock on his faith, maybe it is, but whatever it is, Brown made the strategic decision to take a position that allowed him to stay in the public eye seemingly in contrast to the life of a humble preacher. Quote Link to comment
DelK Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It is probably very easy to complain about the bosses that are gone in order to explain why, in this case, guys on the team didn't play. That is even more true today when the sense of entitlement to "what you want when you want it in the color and texture you want it, never mind whether it is deserved or not" is rampant. But there are beginning to be a LOT of indications that "coaching up" players did not occur as we might have hoped. Joe Keels is quoted, my translation, as not knowing why he didn't get on the field. It reminds me of Osborne saying that all players were graded when on the field for game or practice. There are indications that did not happen under the two previous coaches. This is very interesting.. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Coach Bray said there are guys that never saw a rep in practice with the old staff. So based on that fact alone, this new staff is a major upgrade. Quote Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Bowfin's got a point, though. The guys you guys listed all won Heismans, very nearly did, led their teams to BCS games, or are NFL franchise QBs. The one he listed had glaring mechanical flaws and his teams never lost less than four games. Last year we has the same problem with TA. QB teaching and progression was garbage at NU under the old staff. It illustrates how important QB play is to successful teams, and big a factor it was in Bo teams never getting over the hump. Not really. The one he listed was the B1G 1st team quarterback as picked by the coaches. We were no closer or further away with Joe Ganz and Taylor Martinez than we were with Cody Green and Ron Kellogg. Opinions are like a-holes, buddy. I don't agree with that. Even if Bo magically found a way to actually prepare his teams and not have his D fall apart against Wisconsin, we weren't winning anything of substance with that level of QB play. If anything, Green was an example of the horrible mismanagement of QBs under the Bo regime. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Coach Bray said there are guys that never saw a rep in practice with the old staff. So based on that fact alone, this new staff is a major upgrade. That doesn't surprise me, I guess. Everyone knew Pelini had a doghouse. We just didn't know to what extent the depth of it. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Coach Bray said there are guys that never saw a rep in practice with the old staff. So based on that fact alone, this new staff is a major upgrade. That doesn't surprise me, I guess. Everyone knew Pelini had a doghouse. We just didn't know to what extent the depth of it. That is ridiculous. HOW CAN THE PROGRAM IMPROVE? I suppose Courtney Love didn't see a rep until last season, which would make me want to transfer too! CL: "Hey Coach, could I practice today so that I'm ready for tomorrow?" BP: "No, hit the showers." Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Coach Bray said there are guys that never saw a rep in practice with the old staff. So based on that fact alone, this new staff is a major upgrade. That doesn't surprise me, I guess. Everyone knew Pelini had a doghouse. We just didn't know to what extent the depth of it. That is ridiculous. HOW CAN THE PROGRAM IMPROVE? I suppose Courtney Love didn't see a rep until last season, which would make me want to transfer too! CL: "Hey Coach, could I practice today so that I'm ready for tomorrow?" BP: "No, hit the showers." Courtney Love might not be the best example. He redshirted his first year so presumably he was on the scout team not getting many reps if at all. Then last year was his RS FR year so then he would get reps I suppose. You could be right though. I have no clue as to the inner workings to a Pelini practice. Quote Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 This would certainly add some clarity as to why we rarely saw changes I'm the depth chart even after multiple subpar performances (looking at you, OL). They didn't feel second string could step in and do better.... Because they weren't getting any reps? Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 This would certainly add some clarity as to why we rarely saw changes I'm the depth chart even after multiple subpar performances (looking at you, OL). They didn't feel second string could step in and do better.... Because they weren't getting any reps? To be fair, Bray didn't say it was 2nd stringers. For all we know it was a walk on Quote Link to comment
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