The General Election

[ZRod]

I love reading the spin by a couple posters. it is clear she can do anything and will still get their vote.

 

 

Everyone calls Trump a racist.. Can anyone tell me what all he has done (not counting words)?

I love the fact that what your saying, in no way matches what those posters have said.

[HuskerNation1]

As I stated earlier, Hillary's decision to launch an ad calling Trump and his supporters racist was done strategically for 2 reasons.

 

1. To distract from the Clinton Foundation headlines. Bill used the "wag the dog" approach often when POTUS.

 

2. To combat outreach and gains Trump is attempting to make with black voters. If HIllary cannot get black voters fired up, her turnout on election day will not be good. Trump has been talking direct to the black and hispanic communities, and he has a way of cutting through and getting people to listen.

 

Well it looks like Hillary's latter fear may be coming true, as the founder of "Black Men for Bernie" and his movement are now switching parties and he will be voting for Trump. Now I realize this is just one man's movement, but if this message gets out in the black community and Trump is able to move from getting only a few points of the black vote up to 15 or 20%, that will have a major impact on election day.

 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/black-men-bernie-founder-switches-parties-campaign-trump/

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/26/black-men-for-bernie-founder-end-democrat-political-slavery-of-minorities/

[ZRod]

 

 

 

 

 

Hillary Clinton is not racist.

 

And based upon the evidence provided, you came to that conclusion because?

Because you said she was. And every time I dig into anything you say it turns out to be half-truths, lies or exaggerations.

Basically, if you say something is true, I know it's at least half false, or entirely made up.

It's science.

Did Hillary Clinton belong to a White's only country club? Yes or no?

Do you have a source for that? I found a New York Time's article about Bill playing at an all-white country club but it doesn't mention Hillary.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/charleston-sc/TLO00BKHJKT5QUCON

 

Here you go. Both were members of this club and both resigned their membership once a local paper called them out on it.

 

Also, it's important noting that in both the 2008 and 2016 Democratic primaries, the Obama and Sanders campaign complained of Hillary using race-baiting tactics against them as well. Even the Times and the Huffington Post called Hillary out for race-baiting, stating this when they reflected back on Hillary's 2008 campaign against Obama.

 

A quick trip down memory lane reveals that Clinton has a history of employing race in a divisive, cynical manner.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12clinton.html

 

http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/can-black-people-trust-hillary_b_9312004.html

Your link is literally the only site I can find that mentions the Clintons belonging to such a club. I google the supposed news papers and could find no articles. Plenty of them talk about Bill playing at that kind of club. But nothing of having a membership, and the club doesn't even ban black people from playing there. They just don't have black memebers.

[huskerfan2000]

 

I love reading the spin by a couple posters. it is clear she can do anything and will still get their vote.

 

 

Everyone calls Trump a racist.. Can anyone tell me what all he has done (not counting words)?

I love the fact that what your saying, in no way matches what those posters have said.

 

 

Maybe not from your perspective, but from a non-Hillary fan perspective it is.

 

 

Nobody has responded to my question... What all has Trump done that is considered racist, is it just the apartment thing? I am not talking about words, but actions.

 

I have not followed everything that involves this subject, so I am asking.

 

 

EDIT: regardless, you say Hillary can change, so then why are others bringing up what Trump did back in the 70's?

 

I call that spin!

[huskerfan2000]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hillary Clinton is not racist.

And based upon the evidence provided, you came to that conclusion because?

Because you said she was. And every time I dig into anything you say it turns out to be half-truths, lies or exaggerations.

Basically, if you say something is true, I know it's at least half false, or entirely made up.

It's science.

Did Hillary Clinton belong to a White's only country club? Yes or no?

Do you have a source for that? I found a New York Time's article about Bill playing at an all-white country club but it doesn't mention Hillary.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/charleston-sc/TLO00BKHJKT5QUCON

 

Here you go. Both were members of this club and both resigned their membership once a local paper called them out on it.

 

Also, it's important noting that in both the 2008 and 2016 Democratic primaries, the Obama and Sanders campaign complained of Hillary using race-baiting tactics against them as well. Even the Times and the Huffington Post called Hillary out for race-baiting, stating this when they reflected back on Hillary's 2008 campaign against Obama.

 

A quick trip down memory lane reveals that Clinton has a history of employing race in a divisive, cynical manner.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12clinton.html

 

http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/can-black-people-trust-hillary_b_9312004.html

Your link is literally the only site I can find that mentions the Clintons belonging to such a club. I google the supposed news papers and could find no articles. Plenty of them talk about Bill playing at that kind of club. But nothing of having a membership, and the club doesn't even ban black people from playing there. They just don't have black memebers.

 

 

 

SPIN SPIN SPIN.. getting dizzy from all the spin.

 

 

having a membership or not isn't the point.

[HuskerNation1]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hillary Clinton is not racist.

And based upon the evidence provided, you came to that conclusion because?

Because you said she was. And every time I dig into anything you say it turns out to be half-truths, lies or exaggerations.

Basically, if you say something is true, I know it's at least half false, or entirely made up.

It's science.

Did Hillary Clinton belong to a White's only country club? Yes or no?

Do you have a source for that? I found a New York Time's article about Bill playing at an all-white country club but it doesn't mention Hillary.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/charleston-sc/TLO00BKHJKT5QUCON

 

Here you go. Both were members of this club and both resigned their membership once a local paper called them out on it.

 

Also, it's important noting that in both the 2008 and 2016 Democratic primaries, the Obama and Sanders campaign complained of Hillary using race-baiting tactics against them as well. Even the Times and the Huffington Post called Hillary out for race-baiting, stating this when they reflected back on Hillary's 2008 campaign against Obama.

 

A quick trip down memory lane reveals that Clinton has a history of employing race in a divisive, cynical manner.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12clinton.html

 

http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/can-black-people-trust-hillary_b_9312004.html

Your link is literally the only site I can find that mentions the Clintons belonging to such a club. I google the supposed news papers and could find no articles. Plenty of them talk about Bill playing at that kind of club. But nothing of having a membership, and the club doesn't even ban black people from playing there. They just don't have black memebers.

 

 

 

SPIN SPIN SPIN.. getting dizzy from all the spin.

 

 

having a membership or not isn't the point.

 

 

You are right Huskerfan. It is pure spin. So Hillary's charge of guilt by association against Trump because some of his members are sympathetic to the KKK is ok to Hillary supporters, but somehow Hillary's associattion by marriage to a man playing at a White's only golf course is excusable.

[ZRod]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hillary Clinton is not racist.

 

And based upon the evidence provided, you came to that conclusion because?

Because you said she was. And every time I dig into anything you say it turns out to be half-truths, lies or exaggerations.

Basically, if you say something is true, I know it's at least half false, or entirely made up.

It's science.

 

Did Hillary Clinton belong to a White's only country club? Yes or no?

 

Do you have a source for that? I found a New York Time's article about Bill playing at an all-white country club but it doesn't mention Hillary.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/charleston-sc/TLO00BKHJKT5QUCON

 

Here you go. Both were members of this club and both resigned their membership once a local paper called them out on it.

 

Also, it's important noting that in both the 2008 and 2016 Democratic primaries, the Obama and Sanders campaign complained of Hillary using race-baiting tactics against them as well. Even the Times and the Huffington Post called Hillary out for race-baiting, stating this when they reflected back on Hillary's 2008 campaign against Obama.

A quick trip down memory lane reveals that Clinton has a history of employing race in a divisive, cynical manner.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12clinton.html

http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/can-black-people-trust-hillary_b_9312004.html

Your link is literally the only site I can find that mentions the Clintons belonging to such a club. I google the supposed news papers and could find no articles. Plenty of them talk about Bill playing at that kind of club. But nothing of having a membership, and the club doesn't even ban black people from playing there. They just don't have black memebers.

 

 

SPIN SPIN SPIN.. getting dizzy from all the spin.

 

 

having a membership or not isn't the point.

 

You are right Huskerfan. It is pure spin. So Hillary's charge of guilt by association against Trump because some of his members are sympathetic to the KKK is ok to Hillary supporters, but somehow Hillary's associattion by marriage to a man playing at a White's only golf course is excusable.

Who here said they agree with her tactics when it comes to Trump and race?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hillary Clinton is not racist.

 

And based upon the evidence provided, you came to that conclusion because?

Because you said she was. And every time I dig into anything you say it turns out to be half-truths, lies or exaggerations.

Basically, if you say something is true, I know it's at least half false, or entirely made up.

It's science.

 

Did Hillary Clinton belong to a White's only country club? Yes or no?

 

Do you have a source for that? I found a New York Time's article about Bill playing at an all-white country club but it doesn't mention Hillary.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/charleston-sc/TLO00BKHJKT5QUCON

 

Here you go. Both were members of this club and both resigned their membership once a local paper called them out on it.

 

Also, it's important noting that in both the 2008 and 2016 Democratic primaries, the Obama and Sanders campaign complained of Hillary using race-baiting tactics against them as well. Even the Times and the Huffington Post called Hillary out for race-baiting, stating this when they reflected back on Hillary's 2008 campaign against Obama.

A quick trip down memory lane reveals that Clinton has a history of employing race in a divisive, cynical manner.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12clinton.html

http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/can-black-people-trust-hillary_b_9312004.html

Your link is literally the only site I can find that mentions the Clintons belonging to such a club. I google the supposed news papers and could find no articles. Plenty of them talk about Bill playing at that kind of club. But nothing of having a membership, and the club doesn't even ban black people from playing there. They just don't have black memebers.

 

 

SPIN SPIN SPIN.. getting dizzy from all the spin.

 

 

having a membership or not isn't the point.

Then what is the point? I'd love to draw more conclusions and have a firm stance, but there is little if any background on the topic. Even the club he played at wasn't a whites only club. So while I can't say the accusations are false, they're certainly not true. Do I think Trump is racist? Probably not. Although he seems to have said some racist things. Do I think he is a bigot? Most certainly.

 

 

 

http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/country-club-of-little-rock-still-for-whites-only/Content?oid=2221583

 

Ironically, efforts are underway at both clubs to recruit black members. The drive to bring in the first black at the CCLR started more than a year agolong before the most recent media over the club' s membership policies.

 

 

 

Two sponsors are required for an application, according to a summary of CCLR bylaws included in the club's membership roster. Each application is then considered by an admissions committee made up of the club board members. Once the applicant is approved by the committee, his or her name is posted on the club bulletin board "so that members may have an opportunity to comment on such application." Membership is limited to 500 "active" members, so even after approval, new members may have to wait for a spot to come open.

[huskerfan2000]

Ironically, it only took bad press to get him to say sorry.. weird isn't it? He knowingly played there, all the while knew of their stance, but it wasn't until it was put out in the media that it was denounced. Where was Hillary? Shouldn't she have said something?

 

 

So while I can't say the accusations are false, they're certainly not true.

 

how can you say they aren't false but at the same time say they are certainly not true?

 

My apologies, I don't understand that logic.

[ZRod]

Ironically, it only took bad press to get him to say sorry.. weird isn't it? He knowingly played there, all the while knew of their stance, but it wasn't until it was put out in the media that it was denounced. Where was Hillary? Shouldn't she have said something?

 

 

 

So while I can't say the accusations are false, they're certainly not true.

 

how can you say they aren't false but at the same time say they are certainly not true?

 

My apologies, I don't understand that logic.

What exactly was their stance? Because if you read what I posted they were trying to get a black member in the club a year before he played their.

 

 

How can I say they're not true but not false? Because I'm giving bnhil the benefit of the doubt. I can't find any such article stating that they were members of a whites only club. Maybe he can produce one. If he cannot, then I think we can call the accusation false. Furthermore you have no idea if they would have even know of such a policy until it was printed along with their supposed membership. So given the overwhelming lack of evidence I'm inclined to say it's far from true.

[Danny Bateman]

Since I just started my first week of training for a job in the medical field, I feel obligated to recommend no one in here strain themselves attempting to continue floating this idea of a false equivalence on this issue. But if you do, I can try to help you out.

 

Carry on.

[huskerfan2000]

 

Ironically, it only took bad press to get him to say sorry.. weird isn't it? He knowingly played there, all the while knew of their stance, but it wasn't until it was put out in the media that it was denounced. Where was Hillary? Shouldn't she have said something?

 

 

So while I can't say the accusations are false, they're certainly not true.

how can you say they aren't false but at the same time say they are certainly not true?

 

My apologies, I don't understand that logic.

What exactly was their stance? Because if you read what I posted they were trying to get a black member in the club a year before he played their.

 

 

How can I say they're not true but not false? Because I'm giving bnhil the benefit of the doubt. I can't find any such article stating that they were members of a whites only club. Maybe he can produce one. If he cannot, then I think we can call the accusation false. Furthermore you have no idea if they would have even know of such a policy until it was printed along with their supposed membership. So given the overwhelming lack of evidence I'm inclined to say it's far from true.

 

 

and it didn't work but yet he continued to golf there.. Guess that didn't ring a bell for him?

 

 

Why would you need to give bnhil the benefit of the doubt? He is only saying what is being printed, and not disputed, which is Clinton paid 20k initiation fee and 150 a month for dues.

 

If the course is private, guess what, that means you have to have a membership to play.

[mrandyk]

I love reading the spin by a couple posters. it is clear she can do anything and will still get their vote.

 

 

Everyone calls Trump a racist.. Can anyone tell me what all he has done (not counting words)?

Not counting words and ignoring the examples already brought up? Anything short of Trump murdering a minority in cold blood and explicitly stating that it was due to race won't change your mind. Prescribed examples of racial discrimination and daily comments demeaning just about everyone besides white males simply has brought every level headed person to the conclusion that he is racist, take off the blinders.

[ZRod]

 

 

 

Ironically, it only took bad press to get him to say sorry.. weird isn't it? He knowingly played there, all the while knew of their stance, but it wasn't until it was put out in the media that it was denounced. Where was Hillary? Shouldn't she have said something?

 

 

 

 

So while I can't say the accusations are false, they're certainly not true.

 

how can you say they aren't false but at the same time say they are certainly not true?

 

My apologies, I don't understand that logic.

What exactly was their stance? Because if you read what I posted they were trying to get a black member in the club a year before he played their.

How can I say they're not true but not false? Because I'm giving bnhil the benefit of the doubt. I can't find any such article stating that they were members of a whites only club. Maybe he can produce one. If he cannot, then I think we can call the accusation false. Furthermore you have no idea if they would have even know of such a policy until it was printed along with their supposed membership. So given the overwhelming lack of evidence I'm inclined to say it's far from true.

and it didn't work but yet he continued to golf there.. Guess that didn't ring a bell for him?

 

 

Why would you need to give bnhil the benefit of the doubt? He is only saying what is being printed, and not disputed, which is Clinton paid 20k initiation fee and 150 a month for dues.

 

If the course is private, guess what, that means you have to have a membership to play.

Where??? Where is this being printed? Also, I thought the membership wasn't the point?

 

I'm so confused.../s

 

 

Did you even read what I quoted? Where in there did it say "It didn't work"? It's not like it's a Costco membership; someone would have to leave the club for any new member to be accepted. And no, you don't have to be a member to play there. Read the articles. You can play at many clubs with a member when you yourself are not. This isn't an uncommon thing...

[mrandyk]

I hear Bill likes to eat at White Castle. Trump was right. Make America Great Again!

[Creighton Duke]

I hear Bill likes to eat at White Castle. Trump was right. Make America Great Again!