Red Five Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 What's actually stopping him from changing course? Looking like a bafoon (nothing new to Trump). And Pence filed today to drop out of the IN governor's race, and I think the deadline has passed to get back in it. Link to comment
TAKODA Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Oh Jeezus, The Donald and Hillary are just amazing!, It's all so Orson Wells like. Sick of it all. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Things I've read about Pence since I got home from work today: Penned op-ed: Smoking doesn't kill. Claims to support science, does not believe in evolution. Also claims there's "growing skepticism in the scientific community" about global warming Anti-stem cell Relevant part starts at about 8:00. This guy loves him some science. Folded up like a folding chair when he realized how discriminatory his Religious Freedom Restoration Act was. Barf. I'm sure some right of center will love this guy, but he strikes me as another tea party nutball. Who now has favorables akin to Clinton or Trump in his home state. Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 From the little I've read of him, Pence is a staunch conservative and evangelical -- but also was one of the Republican governors who worked with the Obama administration to expand Medicaid. He seems like a not-too-atypical GOP sort of guy. The kind I would oppose in almost every area, most of them pretty strongly (such as science denial), but who I also understand does represent the views of many Americans and doesn't seem like a total nut. Although he is a firm part of the Tea Party wave, and at this point it's sometimes hard to tell which is supposed to be mainstream GOP and which is the fringe. Put another way, Mike Pence is the sort of guy it would make sense to me to see be a GOP darling and frontrunner. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Yes, Zoogs. I agree he's the archetype they'd go for. The GOP base certainly yearns for some very particular flavors of values at the omen I certainly don't agree with, personally. For a short period of time this year, I even developed some respect for Paul Ryan for being the sane face of a party coming apart at the seams. Then he seemed to lose his spine and endorse Trump while also seemingly saying "I disagree" on every controversial topic Trump fumbled thereafter. Why endorse? He seemed to lose his principle. He now seems more interested in finding more ways to fling more mud at Clinton rather than passing meaningful bipartisan legislation, can't control the extreme right faction of his house re: the IRS, and ignores gun violence. My oh my, that respect certainly evaporated quickly. More Pence goodies this morning: Signed law requiring aborted fetuses to be given funerals Used campaign donations to pay mortgage, credit card bills, personal expenses-- and it cost him the election Slashed Planned Parenthood funding, which closed the lone STD testing clinic in rural Scott county. HIV epidemic ensues and he calls in CDC to assist. LGBT greatest hits Yuck. Link to comment
knapplc Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Pence seems like exactly the kind of guy who would rile up the Democrat base and get them out to vote. It's almost like Trump picked someone designed to get his opposition riled up on purpose, instead of a moderate with broad appeal. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If someone hasn't noticed, I'm not trumps biggest fan and I'm surprised at some who have endorsed him. However....if the Dems had nominated a decent candidate, maybe some would have not endorsed him. Link to comment
knapplc Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Pence's daughter is somehow nearly perfectly eclipsed by him in the mirror in this picture. People all across the internet hilariously presume she's a vampire, or photoshopped into the picture. 1 Link to comment
Red Five Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Today's the day for Hillary. Kaine (the favorite), Vilsack, or Booker seem to be the top 3. She could have been savage and leaked her pick during Trump's speech last night. Link to comment
huKSer Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Am I the only one that wishes Pence and Kaine were the Presidential candidates instead of Trump and Clinton? Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Am I the only one that wishes Pence and Kaine were the Presidential candidates instead of Trump and Clinton? No...i think many on here and around the nation would prefer them. Of the 2 picks I think Pence helps Hillary more than Kaine helps Hillary. Progressives are not in love with Hillary, and Kaine is not exciting them. Trump already has appeal to the independents and the blue collar middle class and needed to get a higher percent of Conservatives. Pence will help him with that. With the wikileaka showing the DNC rigged the primary, I look for Jill Steins numbers to go up. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Man, these two VP candidates are boring. I wish I could say the same thing for the Presidential candidates. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I need to read up more on Kaine, but I think it will be interesting to see if the undecided read up on Pence ... he's always going to be like milktoast behind Trump on stage, but his past voting history and opinions on issues is horrific on many that are important to folks, especially those who were supporting Bernie. Here are some of my favs: · Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation. (Nov 2007) · Voted YES on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006) · Voted YES on banning federal health coverage that includes abortion. (May 2011) · Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005) · Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001) · Sponsored bill to prohibit fed funding of Planned Parenthood. (Jan 2011) · Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004) · Voted NO on enforcing against anti-gay hate crimes. (Apr 2009) · Voted NO on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges. (Mar 2006) · Voted NO on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009) · Voted NO on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008) · Voted YES on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects. (Nov 2003) · Voted NO on four weeks of paid parental leave for federal employees. (Jun 2009) · Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005) · Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003) · Yes to Loosen restrictions on interstate gun purchases. (Oct 2011) · No to Ban gun registration & trigger lock law in Washington DC. (Mar 2007) · Voted NO on giving mental health full equity with physical health. (Mar 2008) Similar to when Chaney was around, and probably to an even greater degree he will be doing the US's business as the President would be incapable of doing so. One thing I can say I like (?) about Trump is that how he says he feels on issues may changes tomorrow, so there's a chance he'd support ideas that seem off the table right now. But Pence, he's a consistent, closed minded conservative that sits far, far to the right. Between that and Trumps/the republican party's platform I really don't see Bernie supporters swinging that way. Link to comment
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