Trump's America

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Trump to Mexico: Take care of 'bad hombres' or US might

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

 

The phone call between the leaders was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. The two have had a series of public spats over Trump's determination to have Mexico pay for the planned border wall, something Mexico steadfastly refuses to agree to.

 

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

 

 

 

Did Trump just threaten to invade Mexico?

 

yes he did....but he forgot to add that he was going to make mexico pay for that invasion

[commando]

i am almost mildly shocked.....

[RedDenver]

#StopPresidentBannon

[JJ Husker]

 

Trump to Mexico: Take care of 'bad hombres' or US might

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

The phone call between the leaders was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. The two have had a series of public spats over Trump's determination to have Mexico pay for the planned border wall, something Mexico steadfastly refuses to agree to.

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

 

 

Did Trump just threaten to invade Mexico?

WTF is wrong with this guy?

I'm seriously thinking he should be forced to undergo psychological evaluation and competency testing.

I really thought he might reel the crazy in a little bit once he got in office but it seems to be expanding in every direction.

[Danny Bateman]

Leaked Draft of Trump’s Religious Freedom Order Reveals Sweeping Plans to Legalize Discrimination

If signed, the order would create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.

Woof. If this comes to pass, they'll be sued so fast their heads will spin. Believe me.

 

Some highlights:

 

 

1. The four-page draft order, a copy of which is currently circulating among federal staff and advocacy organizations, construes religious organizations so broadly that it covers “any organization, including closely held for-profit corporations,” and protects “religious freedom” in every walk of life: “when providing social services, education, or healthcare; earning a living, seeking a job, or employing others; receiving government grants or contracts; or otherwise participating in the marketplace, the public square, or interfacing with Federal, State or local governments.”

The draft order seeks to create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious or moral objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity, and it seeks to curtail women’s access to contraception and abortion through the Affordable Care Act.

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2. Language in the draft document specifically protects the tax-exempt status of any organization that “believes, speaks, or acts (or declines to act) in accordance with the belief that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, sexual relations are properly reserved for such a marriage, male and female and their equivalents refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy, physiology, or genetics at or before birth, and that human life begins at conception and merits protection at all stages of life.”
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3. It sets forth an exceptionally expansive definition of “religious exercise” that extends to “any act or refusal to act that is motivated by a sincerely held religious belief, whether or not the act is required or compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief.”
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4. Lupu added that the language of the draft “might invite federal employees,” for example, at the Social Security Administration or Veterans Administration, “to refuse on religious grounds to process applications or respond to questions from those whose benefits depend on same sex marriages.” If other employees do not “fill the gap,” he said, it could “lead to a situation where marriage equality was being de facto undermined by federal employees, especially in religiously conservative communities,” contrary to Supreme Court rulings.
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5. Section 4 of the order, “Specific Agency Responsibilities,” requires HHS to issue a rule exempting any person or organization with religious objections from complying with the ACA’s preventive-care mandate—42 U.S.C. 300gg-13(a)(4)—which includes contraceptive coverage. It requires HHS to ensure that anyone purchasing insurance on a health-care exchange have the option of purchasing a plan that neither covers abortions nor “subsidize plans that do provide such coverage.”

And it bars HHS from taking any adverse action against federally funded child-welfare organizations, including those offering adoption, foster, or family support services, that deny anyone these services “due to a conflict with the organization’s religious ---beliefs.”

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6. Section 4 also requires the Department of Justice to establish a new section or working group dedicated to protecting “religious freedom.”

 

1. Crap, Pence got a hold of a pen and barricaded himself in the drafting room.

 

This is essentially the RFRA on roads on a federal scale. I find the bolded extremely odd. I don't think high school students are going to be able to buy much of anything. And a heck of a lot of other people.

 

2. This is ridiculously broad.

 

3. So if I own Dudeguyy's Donuts, I can refuse to sell somebody a donut because the Flying Spaghetti Monster told me not to?

 

4. Sounds like a great recipe for a bunch more of these to pop up.

 

 

5. Wew, a chance to deny people birth control AND protect those who wish to deny children to non-heteros. Neat.

 

6. The party of small government is not above expanding it on religious grounds.

 

You know, you read stuff like this, and suddenly the level of fear and anxiety that someone like Chimichangas expresses doesn't seem irrational in the slightest.

[JJ Husker]

I'm not sure it's fair to label the over zealous far right tea party faction as representative of the GOP of small of government. They may have hijacked a controlling interest temporarily but they do NOT represent traditional conservatives. I don't consider myself Republican anymore but I'm still fiscally conservative and socially moderate. I like to think (maybe falsely) that I am not an extreme minority in this country. The problem is, there is absolutely nobody representing my views in government anymore.

 

I guess maybe that's what I get for writing in presidential candidate "you've got to be f#cking kidding me?"

[RedDenver]

I'm not sure it's fair to label the over zealous far right tea party faction as representative of the GOP of small of government. They may have hijacked a controlling interest temporarily but they do NOT represent traditional conservatives. I don't consider myself Republican anymore but I'm still fiscally conservative and socially moderate. I like to think (maybe falsely) that I am not an extreme minority in this country. The problem is, there is absolutely nobody representing my views in government anymore.

 

I guess maybe that's what I get for writing in presidential candidate "you've got to be f#cking kidding me?"

I've pretty much given up on the parties. They are bought and sold and aren't a reflection of the will of the people. My stance going forward will be to vote for whoever will get money out of politics regardless of political affiliation. None of the other issues matter if the core of democracy (government of, by, and for the people) no longer exists.

[BIGREDIOWAN]

 

 

Trump to Mexico: Take care of 'bad hombres' or US might

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

The phone call between the leaders was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. The two have had a series of public spats over Trump's determination to have Mexico pay for the planned border wall, something Mexico steadfastly refuses to agree to.

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

 

Did Trump just threaten to invade Mexico?

WTF is wrong with this guy?

I'm seriously thinking he should be forced to undergo psychological evaluation and competency testing.

I really thought he might reel the crazy in a little bit once he got in office but it seems to be expanding in every direction.

 

Agreed, he'll lose a lot of support along the way minus the crazies. Heck I'm starting to waver some and shaking my head.

[Danny Bateman]

Nah. I too mourn the loss of representation for center-right moderate conservatives.

 

As to what you said above, I too have no idea what is wrong with him. Some of the excerpts from this paint the picture of an embarrassingly childish and possibly mentally unstable president:

 

 

Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refu­gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

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“This is the worst deal ever,” Trump fumed as Turnbull attempted to confirm that the United States would honor its pledge to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center. Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admissions of refugees, complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers.”
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Even in conversations marred by hostile exchanges, Trump manages to work in references to his election accomplishments. U.S. officials said that he used his calls with both Turnbull and Peña Nieto to mention his election win or the size of the crowd at his inauguration.
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“I don’t want these people,” Trump said. He repeatedly misstated the number of refugees called for in the agreement as 2,000 rather than 1,250, and told Turnbull that it was “my intention” to honor the agreement, a phrase designed to leave the U.S. president wiggle room to back out of the deal in the future, according to a senior U.S. official.

Turnbull told Trump that to honor the agreement, the United States would not have to accept all of the refugees but only to allow them each through the normal vetting procedures. At that, Trump vowed to subject each refu­gee to “extreme vetting,” the senior U.S. official said.

Trump was also skeptical because he did not see a specific advantage the United States would gain by honoring the deal, officials said.

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Trump made the call to Turnbull about 5 p.m. Saturday from his desk in the Oval Office, where he was joined by chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, national security adviser Michael Flynn and White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

At one point, Turnbull suggested that the two leaders move on from their impasse over refugees to discuss the conflict in Syria and other pressing foreign issues. But Trump demurred and ended the call, making it far shorter than his conversations with Shinzo Abe of Japan, Angela Merkel of Germany, François Hollande of France or Putin.

I mean, who the F says these things to an ally and/or treats them like that?

And, of course, President Bannon has to be there to curate everything.

Gosh, excerpts like these are really disheartening for anyone hoping Trump will learn to be diplomatic.

[It'sNotAFakeID]

Can we please just impeach him already?

[RedDenver]

 

 

 

Trump to Mexico: Take care of 'bad hombres' or US might

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them itself, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

The phone call between the leaders was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. The two have had a series of public spats over Trump's determination to have Mexico pay for the planned border wall, something Mexico steadfastly refuses to agree to.

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

 

Did Trump just threaten to invade Mexico?

WTF is wrong with this guy?

I'm seriously thinking he should be forced to undergo psychological evaluation and competency testing.

I really thought he might reel the crazy in a little bit once he got in office but it seems to be expanding in every direction.

 

Agreed, he'll lose a lot of support along the way minus the crazies. Heck I'm starting to waver some and shaking my head.

 

It's easier to ignore the other side, so my hope is that the Republicans (politicians and/or voters) stand up to Trump's crazier stuff.

[JJ Husker]

Nah. I too mourn the loss of representation for center-right moderate conservatives.

 

As to what you said above, I too have no idea what is wrong with him. Some of the excerpts from this paint the picture of an embarrassingly childish and possibly mentally unstable president:

 

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/826950828699373570

 

 

Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refu­gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

------“This is the worst deal ever,” Trump fumed as Turnbull attempted to confirm that the United States would honor its pledge to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center. Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admissions of refugees, complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers.”

-----Even in conversations marred by hostile exchanges, Trump manages to work in references to his election accomplishments. U.S. officials said that he used his calls with both Turnbull and Peña Nieto to mention his election win or the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

-----“I don’t want these people,” Trump said. He repeatedly misstated the number of refugees called for in the agreement as 2,000 rather than 1,250, and told Turnbull that it was “my intention” to honor the agreement, a phrase designed to leave the U.S. president wiggle room to back out of the deal in the future, according to a senior U.S. official.Turnbull told Trump that to honor the agreement, the United States would not have to accept all of the refugees but only to allow them each through the normal vetting procedures. At that, Trump vowed to subject each refu­gee to “extreme vetting,” the senior U.S. official said.

Trump was also skeptical because he did not see a specific advantage the United States would gain by honoring the deal, officials said.

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Trump made the call to Turnbull about 5 p.m. Saturday from his desk in the Oval Office, where he was joined by chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, national security adviser Michael Flynn and White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

At one point, Turnbull suggested that the two leaders move on from their impasse over refugees to discuss the conflict in Syria and other pressing foreign issues. But Trump demurred and ended the call, making it far shorter than his conversations with Shinzo Abe of Japan, Angela Merkel of Germany, François Hollande of France or Putin.

 

I mean, who the F says these things to an ally and/or treats them like that?

 

And, of course, President Bannon has to be there to curate everything.

Gosh, excerpts like these are really disheartening for anyone hoping Trump will learn to be diplomatic.

Please tell me this is fake news. Is it possible this is remotely true? No way in hell he had a discussion like that with the PM of Australia. If so, I seriously think he wants to be impeached. No way even the most hardcore supporter of his can think this behavior is acceptable.

[commando]

 

Nah. I too mourn the loss of representation for center-right moderate conservatives.

 

As to what you said above, I too have no idea what is wrong with him. Some of the excerpts from this paint the picture of an embarrassingly childish and possibly mentally unstable president:

 

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/826950828699373570

 

Instead, President Trump blasted Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a refu­gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

------“This is the worst deal ever,” Trump fumed as Turnbull attempted to confirm that the United States would honor its pledge to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center. Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admissions of refugees, complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers.”

-----Even in conversations marred by hostile exchanges, Trump manages to work in references to his election accomplishments. U.S. officials said that he used his calls with both Turnbull and Peña Nieto to mention his election win or the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

-----“I don’t want these people,” Trump said. He repeatedly misstated the number of refugees called for in the agreement as 2,000 rather than 1,250, and told Turnbull that it was “my intention” to honor the agreement, a phrase designed to leave the U.S. president wiggle room to back out of the deal in the future, according to a senior U.S. official.Turnbull told Trump that to honor the agreement, the United States would not have to accept all of the refugees but only to allow them each through the normal vetting procedures. At that, Trump vowed to subject each refu­gee to “extreme vetting,” the senior U.S. official said.

Trump was also skeptical because he did not see a specific advantage the United States would gain by honoring the deal, officials said.

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Trump made the call to Turnbull about 5 p.m. Saturday from his desk in the Oval Office, where he was joined by chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, national security adviser Michael Flynn and White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

At one point, Turnbull suggested that the two leaders move on from their impasse over refugees to discuss the conflict in Syria and other pressing foreign issues. But Trump demurred and ended the call, making it far shorter than his conversations with Shinzo Abe of Japan, Angela Merkel of Germany, François Hollande of France or Putin.

I mean, who the F says these things to an ally and/or treats them like that?

 

And, of course, President Bannon has to be there to curate everything.

Gosh, excerpts like these are really disheartening for anyone hoping Trump will learn to be diplomatic.

Please tell me this is fake news. Is it possible this is remotely true? No way in hell he had a discussion like that with the PM of Australia. If so, I seriously think he wants to be impeached. No way even the most hardcore supporter of his can think this behavior is acceptable.

 

David Duke is still very happy with Trump

[Danny Bateman]

Please tell me this is fake news. Is it possible this is remotely true? No way in hell he had a discussion like that with the PM of Australia. If so, I seriously think he wants to be impeached. No way even the most hardcore supporter of his can think this behavior is acceptable.

 

Counterpoint:

 

 

Lol

[knapplc]

I don't know what this is. IF TRUE, this is chilling. There should be a barrier between the military and civilian politics. The military serves to uphold the Constitution and protect the citizenry. It does not, or should not, get involved in politics. AT ALL.

Navy looks into Trump-flag convoy

The Navy is investigating whether the mysterious convoy of military vehicles seen flying a Donald Trump flag Sunday in Louisville were, in fact, its trucks.

Lt. Mary Kate Walsh, a Navy spokeswoman at the Pentagon, said Tuesday that it would be “strange for us to have Humvees” but that the Navy Facilities Engineering Command, which controls the motor pool, is investigating.

The four trucks bear numbers that match up with those designated for Navy light trucks in a military guide known as “Management of Civil Engineering Support Equipment.”

Jamie Davis, a Defense Department spokesman, told the Courier-Journal on Monday that he thought the vehicles were military surplus and privately owned.