The Republican Utopia

[Scarlet]

14 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Are you under the impression that people outside the Capitol haven’t been investigated?  

Lol....now investigated = persecuted?  

[knapplc]

Republicans removed Ilhan Omar because in 2019 she wrote, “We must have the same level of accountability and justice for all victims of crimes against humanity. We have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by the U.S., Hamas, Israel, Afghanistan, and the Taliban.” Republicans, four years later, determined this was anti-Semitism and they had to punish her.

 

Republicans also put Marjorie Taylor-Greene, a self-proclaimed Qanon admirer, a White-Nationalist supporter and an anti-Semite, on the House Homeland Security Committee. 

 

It couldn't be more obvious that the motivation isn't some vaguely anti-Semitic comment by Omar. If that were the litmus test, half of Congress would lose their committee assignments. 

[commando]

48 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

So I’m gonna pull a JJ and Scarlet and ask for you to come up with this number and share with us how.  Otherwise I guess JJ gets to say you can’t back up a crazy take and then not engaging in honest discussion 

no, to busy seems to be the correct response here.  

[Archy1221]

19 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Absolutely everyone that crossed over where the mob broke through the barricades and injured police officers, should rightfully, expect to be under investigation.

I would mostly agree with this statement.  People walking around and protesting legally shouldn’t be.  
 

 

[BigRedBuster]

36 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

I would mostly agree with this statement.  People walking around and protesting legally shouldn’t be.  
 

 

Why not?  They aren't being persecuted if they are.  The investigation simply could be, watch their movement on any cameras, figuring out who they are and doing a back ground check.

There's nothing wrong with law enforcement doing that.  They aren't being persecuted just be being investigated.

[JJ Husker]

1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

So I’m gonna pull a JJ and Scarlet and ask for you to come up with this number and share with us how.  Otherwise I guess JJ gets to say you can’t back up a crazy take and then not engaging in honest discussion 

Typical Archy 

Make several posts claiming republicans were not okay with storming the capital and insurrection but then try to reduce counter claims, in the face of contrary overwhelming evidence, to an impossible to define number and specific names and also attempt to change the argument to being about those who didn’t enter the capital.

 

Sure, there are some republicans who didn’t support it. As far as elected R representatives and Senators I could name only about 3. But reasoning with you is a complete waste of effort. You will defend your party and useless politicians at all costs, even your dignity. Everyone except for apparently you knows what happened that day and what the majority of your party has done and said about it. Continue being obstinate and in denial as you see fit. I’ve got a wall to talk to that is more reasonable.

[BigRedBuster]

18 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

Typical Archy 

Make several posts claiming republicans were not okay with storming the capital and insurrection but then try to reduce counter claims, in the face of contrary overwhelming evidence, to an impossible to define number and specific names and also attempt to change the argument to being about those who didn’t enter the capital.

 

Sure, there are some republicans who didn’t support it. As far as elected R representatives and Senators I could name only about 3. But reasoning with you is a complete waste of effort. You will defend your party and useless politicians at all costs, even your dignity. Everyone except for apparently you knows what happened that day and what the majority of your party has done and said about it. Continue being obstinate and in denial as you see fit. I’ve got a wall to talk to that is more reasonable.

Really, all the evidence you need to prove your point is that it's very clear to anyone whose paying attention that Trump loved the insurrection, supports it, was upset that ti didn't succeed and is upset that people are getting indicted and thrown in prison for doing it.  65% of Republicans say loyalty to Trump is important. LINK

 

Meanwhile, we have elected Republicans in congress actively trying to convince America that people who were indicted for the insurrection are being persecuted and the evil gubment is destroying 'merica by doing so.  Those Republicans in congress continue to get reelected.  

[commando]

21 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Really, all the evidence you need to prove your point is that it's very clear to anyone whose paying attention that Trump loved the insurrection, supports it, was upset that ti didn't succeed and is upset that people are getting indicted and thrown in prison for doing it.  65% of Republicans say loyalty to Trump is important. LINK

 

Meanwhile, we have elected Republicans in congress actively trying to convince America that people who were indicted for the insurrection are being persecuted and the evil gubment is destroying 'merica by doing so.  Those Republicans in congress continue to get reelected.  

i was actually being generous when i said half the republican party supported the insurrection.    it is actually more than half.

 

[JJ Husker]

24 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Really, all the evidence you need to prove your point is that it's very clear to anyone whose paying attention that Trump loved the insurrection, supports it, was upset that ti didn't succeed and is upset that people are getting indicted and thrown in prison for doing it.  65% of Republicans say loyalty to Trump is important. LINK

 

Meanwhile, we have elected Republicans in congress actively trying to convince America that people who were indicted for the insurrection are being persecuted and the evil gubment is destroying 'merica by doing so.  Those Republicans in congress continue to get reelected.  

 

2 minutes ago, commando said:

i was actually being generous when i said half the republican party supported the insurrection.    it is actually more than half.

 

Yet here we are, trying to refute someone’s brain disease. Time for the ignore function….again.

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

That’s correct.  I cannot backup the crazy take that Republicans thought rioting inside the Capitol was fine….or when the crazy take got changed to the other crazy take of half Republicans thought this after the poster was called out.  
 

Here’s a question for you based on what another poster claimed.  Do you think Republicans, whatever that means by the way, were fine with protestors storming the Capitol? Even when there are contemporaneous notes saying the opposite.  

 

So you do insist on being thick. 

 

Let's walk through this like adults, using the numbers that are so important to you: 

 

Elected Republicans (and that's an important distinction) were a solid 82% horrified with the January 6 rioting in the Capitol, including the reluctance of the President you voted for 100% of the time to step in and disavow their extremist actions. 

 

By January 7, a solid 63% of name-brand Republicans were willing to step up and criticize the outgoing President, repudiate the rioters, and declare the election valid. They were building the GOP off-ramp to Trump that 91% of elected Republicans considered prudent and perhaps overdue, even if they supported Trump.

 

In the ensuing days, the voters let their opinions known to the home offices of the elected Republicans. While they represented perhaps 38% of the electorate, they were the loudest and scariest and made it clear that any betrayal of Trump would be rectified in the mid-terms. Meanwhile, the GOP pollsters and metrics specialists were confirming that 62% of ALL Republicans believed the 2020 election had been stolen on behalf of Joe BIden, and just for fun, 25% believed in at least one central tenant of QAnon. "Stop the Steal!" was a surprisingly robust fundraiser. 

 

Mirroring the 100% of HuskerBoard posters who said they found the Jan 6 rioting unacceptable, the Democrats launched an investigation into the events that led up to it, including Donald Trump's unambiguous attempts to subvert democracy prior to the riot he supported 110%. 

 

By now there's only a grand total of 2 Republicans willing to join that committee and take the public stance that one would expect at least half of Republicans to tacitly support, going by your numbers. Instead they were 98% vilified by Republicans, including you, and thrown out of office. You wrote 67 posts trying to rationalize this, but they were 100% bulls#!t.  

 

The writing is on the wall. GOP voters are more than willing to look the other way, and had indeed made solidarity with Trump the midterm litmus test.

 

At which point the RNC completes its about face by declaring that the people being targeted by the investigation --- and yes, Sherlock, that means the gleeful rioters INSIDE the Capitol -- were merely exercising "legitimate political discourse."  This is the very definition of being "fine with it" even if you technically wish it hadn't happened and would absolutely s#!t bricks if leftists stormed anything. 

 

That brings our final numbers to: 

Truth: 1

Archy: 0

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

Why not?  They aren't being persecuted if they are

What?!?!  You think people who do nothing illegal should be actively investigated for a crime they didn’t commit? 

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, JJ Husker said:

in the face of contrary overwhelming evidence, to an impossible to define number and specific names

Oh, you mean like you did earlier 

[Archy1221]

24 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

 

Yet here we are, trying to refute someone’s brain disease. Time for the ignore function….again.

Will never understand why you take things to such a personal level every time.   

[Lorewarn]

Hey, if somebody has a disease, it's not taking things personal to say that they do in fact have a disease. 

[JJ Husker]

14 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Will never understand why you take things to such a personal level every time.   

It’s not personal at all. It’s simply an accurate characterization of what has been happening these last few pages. Excuse me if I don’t need to waste time arguing with someone who has proven repeatedly to ignore reality. It’s a hallmark trait of people in your party.