BigRedBuster Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, commando said: wondering if mitt romney can be kicked out of the republican party. Well, it's going to be really interesting to see what kind of "payback" he gets. Link to comment
commando Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Well, it's going to be really interesting to see what kind of "payback" he gets. hope he stays away from windows in tall buildings and soup served by russian waiters 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Couple of things ran across my timeline just now. Both very true. 3 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, QMany said: Now, here's the really wacky logic that people in American Politics can't seem to see from the inside. So....Kimberley is saying that The Democrats only forced the Senate to vote so that they can try to retake the Senate. And...if they succeed, they can thank Romney. Well.....ummmm.....maybe they should thank the Republicans that chose Trump over country. Link to comment
QMany Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Two quick thoughts: Romney's vote is momentous, the first ever bipartisan removal vote. Trump's legacy will always carry this scarlet letter. I'm actually surprised he voted to acquit Article 2 Obstruction, setting precedent that the President can claim "absolute immunity" and block all documents and testimony without a viable executive privilege claim. Link to comment
Huskerzoo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, QMany said: Two quick thoughts: Romney's vote is momentous, the first ever bipartisan removal vote. Trump's legacy will always carry this scarlet letter. I'm actually surprised he voted to acquit Article 2 Obstruction, setting precedent that the President can claim "absolute immunity" and block all documents and testimony without a viable executive privilege claim. I agree on both points, but I think point 2 is a symptom of the effectiveness of the obstruction. The Republican strategy was to force a limitation/flaw/error and then point out how that limitation means the processes was flawed and political. This allowed for a ton of legal wiggle room. Because this was a mechanism of the senate and could by and large be done behind closed doors, it didn't come from the president. In essence if I told you in a private conversation to harm someone and you did it and never told on me, it's never going to come back to me. The senate can't obstruct a senate trial when the majority agrees that what they're doing is fine, as such by the letter of the law they're likely right for crossing the threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt. It's absurd, but I can get it. Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Final votes: Bipartisan effort to convict, completely partisan votes to acquit. 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I was worried about Manchin. 9 minutes ago, knapplc said: Final votes: Bipartisan effort to convict, completely partisan votes to acquit. Including Rep. Amash, it was a bipartisan effort to impeach and convict. 2 Link to comment
QMany Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 FUN FACT: Mitt Romney got 47.2% of presidential votes versus incumbent President Obama. Donald Trump got 46.1% of presidential votes versus Hillary Clinton. 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Oh....this is going to be special. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I have new respect for the guy. 1 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Well it time for dems to wake the hell up and start doing something to get his approval rating down before November because they bungled this s#!t horribly. But that takes fighting fire with fire which the dems have no clue how to do because “civility”. Hammer him on healthcare! 7 million have lost their healthcare under him. Hes currently in court trying to get preexisting conditions removed but he tweets every day that hes protecting them. Call him a damn liar every time youre on TV! Do something god damnit! Screw civility. He just said on national tv he will cut social security, medicare and medicaid! Use it! Fight! Every day you let him parade around claiming victory is another day closer to him getting elected. Link to comment
Waldo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I always knew Trump was innocent!! Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Don Jr called Romney a “pu&&y”, elite level projection again from the Trump family. 1 Link to comment
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