The Democrat Utopia

[knapplc]

2 hours ago, ZRod said:

Did you ever stop to think what the context of that photo might be, or did you just embrace the rage bait?

 

Column B

[knapplc]

1 hour ago, funhusker said:

It’s getting to the point in the election cycle that never Trump republicans are going to start finding reason to hate Biden to rationalize a Trump vote, I believe.

 

They were always going to do this. 

[BigRedBuster]

11 hours ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

Where was this event?  Was it in Michigan?  Was it sponsored by the Big Three?

 

There's a lot of context that isn't explained here.

[Archy1221]

2 hours ago, ZRod said:

Or maaaaybe the announcement wasn't only about EVs but tailpipe emissions, so it includes EVs, hybrids, and ICE vehicles. Which means it affects the big 3 more than anyone.

If that’s the case, then why not Honda or Toyota vehicles up there since Chrysler is on the stage? 

[knapplc]

32 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Where was this event?  Was it in Michigan?  Was it sponsored by the Big Three?

 

There's a lot of context that isn't explained here.

 

Every vehicle on that stage was built by union labor. 

 

[BigRedBuster]

9 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Every vehicle on that stage was built by union labor. 

 

Ding ding ding. We probably have a winner here.  Instead of being "petty", their target audience was the labor unions....who just recently endorsed Biden.

[DevoHusker]

14 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Ding ding ding. We probably have a winner here.  Instead of being "petty", their target audience was the labor unions....who just recently endorsed Biden.

Ah, so it was a political snub

[knapplc]

25 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

Ah, so it was a political snub

 

What is it about conservatives that make then so adamantly stand up for and play the victim for billionaires (and people who claim to be billionaires but obviously aren't)? 

 

 

[ZRod]

36 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

Ah, so it was a political snub

Let's just say hypothetically they purposefully didn't invite Tesla because of Elon. Who cares? He's extremely toxic right now and just a s#!tty person in general. We're talking about a political party that distances itself from people like John Edwards, Anthony Weiner, Al Franken, the Cuomo's, Senator Mendez, etc. and we're supposed to be mad that they snubbed a man child who calls people pedos and reposts white supremacy stuff?

 

 

[funhusker]

Meanwhile Trump openly announces that he’s going to use his administration to go after the people he hates with the legal system…

But…but….both sides!!!!

 

 

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

Ding ding ding. We probably have a winner here.  Instead of being "petty", their target audience was the labor unions....who just recently endorsed Biden.

Why should we care if it was union labor or not if the showcase was because of tailpipe emissions like someone said?   Does non union labor make tailpipe emissions greater even if they have to follow the same rules?  
 

Why would it matter if the event was in Michigan? 

[Danny Bateman]

30 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Why should we care if it was union labor or not if the showcase was because of tailpipe emissions like someone said?   Does non union labor make tailpipe emissions greater even if they have to follow the same rules?  
 

Why would it matter if the event was in Michigan? 

Democrats support unions. The Big 3 are in Michigan.

 

This is way simpler than you guys are trying to make it.

[Guy Chamberlin]

It appears we need to vet every meme that makes sweeping accusations, as meme-makers sometimes have their own petty partisan motives. 

 

On one hand it would be smart of any federal EV incentivization program to acknowledge Tesla for popularizing EVs and silly to exclude them just because of Musk. On the other hand, maybe this needs more context. 

 

Hold on. I'll check it out.

[Archy1221]

13 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

Democrats support unions. The Big 3 are in Michigan.

 

This is way simpler than you guys are trying to make it.

But this was about tailpipe emissions according to someone and not unions.

 

Toyota has a presence in Michigan, and not just dealers.  Honda has a joint venture with GM in Michigan.  

 

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Okay. Robert Sterling has a point.

 

This is a still from a recent press conference in Washington announcing new EV mandates to roll out between 2027 - 2032. The speakers are from Environmental Justice, the EPA, the Environmental Defense Fund, The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, and a Biden Admin Representative. There's definitely a save the Earth vibe, but it's more about jobs creation and bringing automotive & EV related manufacturing back home as a huge boost to the economy. If you were to poll this crowd it would lean hard into Biden and no doubt Musk would be a dirty word.

 

The press conference champions American manufacturers as leading the world with the bestselling EVs, but it does not mention Tesla or any other manufacturer by name. If you had to pick one car to display to support this narrative, it would be a Tesla.

 

On the other hand, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation speaker says it "reps the three automotive manufacturers on stage" and another speaker cites "the manufacturers who are gathered with us today" suggesting the three brands featured are the three companies actively endorsing the mandate. It's easy to imagine Elon Musk not wanting any part of this. 

 

BTW.... that was an incredibly dull 46:00 press conference I watched in order to have an informed opinion.

 

You're welcome.