Landlord Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, TheSker said: Polls said Trump would not get elected. No they didn't. Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Landlord said: No they didn't. Every gambling site did. Link to comment
TheSker Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Landlord said: No they didn't. Oddly enough they did. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, TheSker said: Oddly enough they did. No, they said he was less likely to win. No poll anywhere said Trump wouldn't win the presidency. They just said he wasn't favored to do so. Link to comment
Landlord Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, teachercd said: Every gambling site did. No, they didn't. 2 hours ago, TheSker said: Oddly enough they did. No, they didn't. Do y'all not understand how odds and percentages work? ESPN's FPI says we have a 92.3% chance of winning tomorrow. Guess what ESPN's FPI doesn't say? Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said: No, they said he was less likely to win. No poll anywhere said Trump wouldn't win the presidency. They just said he wasn't favored to do so. Oh yeah, good point. Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Landlord said: No, they didn't. No, they didn't. Do y'all not understand how odds and percentages work? ESPN's FPI says we have a 92.3% chance of winning tomorrow. Guess what ESPN's FPI doesn't say? So your saying there's a chance! Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 10:19 PM, knapplc said: A recent NAACP poll put Trump's approval among African-Americans at 21%. A recent Pew Research poll put Trump's approval among African-Americans at 12%. A recent Gallup poll puts Trump's approval among African-Americans between 10%-15%. The discrepancy, explained. All of the available polls, from the most pro-Trump (Rasmussen) to the least (Pew) indicate that Trump's approval rating among African-Americans remains abysmal. One might even say "shockingly" abysmal. To go along with these numbers from about two weeks ago, a recent ABC/Washington Post poll put Trump's job approval among African-Americans at three percent. Shocking. 2 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 8:22 PM, Landlord said: No they didn't. Uh...yeah they did. Link to comment
Landlord Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Uh...yeah they did. So you also don't know how odds and percentages work. 4 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 14 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Uh...yeah they did. 3 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Landlord said: So you also don't know how odds and percentages work. Of course I do. Everyone knows that if Clinton has a 70% chance of winning, that's no guarantee she'll win. After all, there is a 30% chance she'll lose. Similarly if 70% of voters prefer Clinton, there are still 30% who don't. But show me any mainstream news source who as late in the 2016 cycle as 5 p.m. on election night predicted a Trump victory. They were virtually guaranteeing a Clinton win and discounting even the possibility of a Trump win. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Of course I do. Everyone knows that if Clinton has a 70% chance of winning, that's no guarantee she'll win. After all, there is a 30% chance she'll lose. Similarly if 70% of voters prefer Clinton, there are still 30% who don't. But show me any mainstream news source who as late in the 2016 cycle as 5 p.m. on election night predicted a Trump victory. They were virtually guaranteeing a Clinton win and discounting even the possibility of a Trump win. You really are working really hard at making your point true. 1 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Ric and TheSker are right about this one. We're not really talking about statistical probability here. We're talking about Conventional Wisdom. And Conventional Wisdom has been notoriously wrong about Donald Trump. I take zero comfort that Trump's approval rating has dipped. It has always hovered around 40%. And I continue to be appalled it's that high. 3 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Of course I do. Everyone knows that if Clinton has a 70% chance of winning, that's no guarantee she'll win. After all, there is a 30% chance she'll lose. Similarly if 70% of voters prefer Clinton, there are still 30% who don't. But show me any mainstream news source who as late in the 2016 cycle as 5 p.m. on election night predicted a Trump victory. They were virtually guaranteeing a Clinton win and discounting even the possibility of a Trump win. Landlord already covered this, but you're moving the goals posts as you originally claimed POLLS and now you're claiming "mainstream news source". Those aren't at all the same things. 2 Link to comment
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