Redux Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Round 1, Played weekend following regular seasons end/This year December 1st (This round takes place on Championship Weekend because it is basically still just Championship weekend. The only difference is that now, if the Independents want to be considered for a playoff spot, they must partake in a 13th game or just nut up and join a conference. From a sheer numbers standpoint, this makes a "22 team" playoff. Obviously not all 11 winners will advance but it puts them in a much better position for getting in and for seeding purposes.) SEC East SEC West Big 12 #1 Big 12 #2 Pac 12 North Pac 12 South Big Ten East Big Ten West ACC Atlantic ACC Coastal American East American West Sun Belt Group A Sun Belt Group B C-USA East C-USA West MtnWest Mountain MtnWest West MAC East MAC West Independent #1 Independent #2 Round 2, played after a bye week following Round 1/This year December 15th Automatic Advance Spots: ACC, Big 12, SEC, Pac 12, Big Ten and Top Ranked Group of 5 Champion (Now that championship weekend has concluded and we have our 11 victors, we will unfortunately eliminate some of them until we have our 8 spots filled. The committee now finalizes the 8 spots and seeds them accordingly. The Power 5 Conference Champion winners are automatically in. I don't give a hoot if Northwestern knocks off Ohio State, they are now in. Why? Becasue THAT makes the regular season matter! Because THAT makes winning your conference actually still mean something! But don't worry, if you go 12-0 and lose in the title game you aren't out just yet at 12-1. The top ranked Group of 5 Champion gets in. That's the whole reason for playoff expansion. This spot will be decided by the committee based off S.O.S, W/L record and where they finished ranked. You know, the stuff they are supposed to take into consideration now but kinda don't. The remaining 2 spots will be decided by the committee. These two spots can go to a highly ranked independent, a team that lost in their conference title game but didn't drop very far ie; an at large, or even another group of 5 champion if there is another say undefeated group of 5 team that slid into the top 10. These 2 spots will almost always go to the SEC runner up, an SEC didn't quite win it's division ie; Alabama, or of course Indy darling Notre Dame. But it opens the door for more teams. This round is played at the higher ranked teams stadium OR a neutral site favoring higher seed if weather makes that impossible. AQ- Automatic Qualifer AL- At Large) #1 SEC West- AQ #8 Independent- AL #2 ACC Atlantic- AQ # 7 American East- AQ #3 Big 12 #1- AQ #6 Pac 12 South- AQ #4 Big Ten East- AQ #5 SEC East- AL Round 3, played after another bye week/This year December 29th (Pretty self explanatory at this point, the 4 teams that won advance. These games will be played in the major bowl rotation like the Peach, Fiesta, Sugar, Cotton and Orange. The Rose Bowl bias needs to go. Some accommodations can be made to protect the "integrity" of it's traditional pairings....but really not many people care anymore that it's a Big Ten vs Pac 12 game.) #1 SEC West #6 Pac 12 South #7 American East #4 Big Ten East Round 4, The Championship Match, Played a week and a couple days following Round 3/This year January 7th (Personally, I think this game should be played on a Saturday. I've always hated how it's on a Monday. But hey, it is what it is and this format seems to work. If we could move it to Saturday great, if not oh well. Nothing earth shattering here, the site is among the same 6 major bowl rotation sites and this game is the meeting of the final 2 teams) #1 SEC West #4 Big Ten East There you have it folks. It gives those runner up teams AND the Group of 5 an open door to get in. It spaces the games out nicely and doesn't make the teams overly worked, plus gives those who set the games up time to do so. It makes the regular season matter. It makes winning your division matter. It makes winning your conference matter. It basically fixes everything, you're welcome. But what of the other bowl games? Honestly I don't even care about them. The bowl system is such a corrupt joke I've soured on them unless Nebraska is playing. We have WAY too many to even care about most of them. So, I would say cut them down to around 20 bowls. That's 40 spots for 40 deserving teams, meaning no more bowls for 5-7 teams. Aww......shucks. This would make getting a bowl bid mean something again too. Now, someone with the power to do so, pass this along to the committee and let's get this officially setup. I don't need the thing named after me, but a nice payment would do. Maybe even some free yearly tickets to playoff games. Again, you're welcome. 4 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 This is pretty much what I agree with, with once exception: the best G5 team only gets in if they're in the top 10. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: This is pretty much what I agree with, with once exception: the best G5 team only gets in if they're in the top 10. I like this, actually had a similar note in there originally. Problem with it is the rankings can be manipulated. I would prefer it be something like top 15 and only if they have 1 or 2 losses MAX. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: This is pretty much what I agree with, with once exception: the best G5 team only gets in if they're in the top 10. The voters can (and do) manipulate this, though. See: UCF the last two years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, Redux said: Round 1, Played weekend following regular seasons end/This year December 1st (This round takes place on Championship Weekend because it is basically still just Championship weekend. The only difference is that now, if the Independents want to be considered for a playoff spot, they must partake in a 13th game or just nut up and join a conference. From a sheer numbers standpoint, this makes a "22 team" playoff. Obviously not all 11 winners will advance but it puts them in a much better position for getting in and for seeding purposes.) SEC East - Georgia SEC West - Alabama Big 12 #1 - Oklahoma Big 12 #2 - Texas Pac 12 North - Washington Pac 12 South - Utah Big Ten East - Ohio St Big Ten West - Northwestern ACC Atlantic - Clemson ACC Coastal - Pitt American East - UCF American West - Memphis Sun Belt Group A - Appalachian St Sun Belt Group B - Louisiana C-USA East - Middle Tennessee C-USA West - UAB MtnWest Mountain - Boise St MtnWest West - Fresno St MAC East - Buffalo MAC West - Northern Illinois Independent #1 - Notre Dame Independent #2 - Army? I'm trying to get an idea of what this would look like this year. So the 11 winners would be: Alabama Oklahoma Washington Ohio St Clemson UCF Appalachian St UAB Fresno St Northern Illinois Notre Dame Then the 8 for the playoff would be: Alabama Oklahoma Washington Ohio St Clemson UCF Notre Dame Georgia(?) Is that where we're at? 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 You're too late to this party. I fixed it years ago: Eight team playoff Five Power 5 Conference Champions (provided they are in the Top 12 of the final standings) Highest-rated Group of Five Champion auto-qualifies if they are in the Top 12 Remaining teams chosen by committee No more than two per conference Now that the field is set, how does the playoff itself actually work and how does it mesh with the other bowls? Those eight teams are locked into New Year's Six bowls on a rotating basis (as they do now with four) Remaining bowl assignments can proceed as they currently do Higher-seeded teams host the quarter final game two weeks after CCG weekend The four teams that lose in the quarter finals will be matched up in two pre-determined New Year's Six bowl games (rotating) The four teams that win in the quarter finals will move on to two other New Year's Six games as the semi-finals (rotating, as they do now) Championship game one week later (as it is now) Bowl structure preserved. Conference championships matter. Group of Five teams have a chance. Doesn't extend the season (time-wise). Bowl season begins and ends with a bang. QED 7 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, GSG said: I'm trying to get an idea of what this would look like this year. So the 11 winners would be: Alabama Oklahoma Washington Ohio St Clemson UCF Appalachian St UAB Fresno St Northern Illinois Notre Dame Then the 8 for the playoff would be: Alabama Oklahoma Washington Ohio St Clemson UCF Notre Dame Georgia(?) Is that where we're at? You are correct sir Quote Link to comment
Head Coach Scott Frost Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 This isn't Tuesday and you're not ScottyIce 2 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Head Coach Scott Frost said: This isn't Tuesday and you're not ScottyIce How would you know that unless you're Scotty? 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskerzoo Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mavric said: You're too late to this party. I fixed it years ago: Eight team playoff Five Power 5 Conference Champions (provided they are in the Top 12 of the final standings) Highest-rated Group of Five Champion auto-qualifies if they are in the Top 12 Remaining teams chosen by committee No more than two per conference Now that the field is set, how does the playoff itself actually work and how does it mesh with the other bowls? Those eight teams are locked into New Year's Six bowls on a rotating basis (as they do now with four) Remaining bowl assignments can proceed as they currently do Higher-seeded teams host the quarter final game two weeks after CCG weekend The four teams that lose in the quarter finals will be matched up in two pre-determined New Year's Six bowl games (rotating) The four teams that win in the quarter finals will move on to two other New Year's Six games as the semi-finals (rotating, as they do now) Championship game one week later (as it is now) Bowl structure preserved. Conference championships matter. Group of Five teams have a chance. Doesn't extend the season (time-wise). Bowl season begins and ends with a bang. QED I like this for the most part, but I'm anti-top 12 ccg winners only. I think maybe the caveat should be that they are either in the top 12 or beat a top 12 team. We all love the double digit seed going into the elite eight in March. As long as they can prove they beat top talent I think they should be in. I also think that the G5 winner needs an auto in (would also need to figure out what to do with ND) no matter what. Otherwise, you're gonna find suddenly that G5s won't ever be in the top 12. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, Huskerzoo said: I like this for the most part, but I'm anti-top 12 ccg winners only. I think maybe the caveat should be that they are either in the top 12 or beat a top 12 team. We all love the double digit seed going into the elite eight in March. As long as they can prove they beat top talent I think they should be in. I also think that the G5 winner needs an auto in (would also need to figure out what to do with ND) no matter what. Otherwise, you're gonna find suddenly that G5s won't ever be in the top 12. I guess I think there needs to be some floor. I think being in the playoff should be tied to having a great regular season, not just being lucky to win a bad conference. Same with the highest-rated G5 winner. I can see the argument that the committee might never rank them in the Top 12 but if we didn't have UCF this year, the next highest-rated G5 team would be #21 Fresno State that lost to Minnesota and I don't think would have any hope of competing with Alabama. So my theory is you don't absolutely have to be one of the top 8 teams to get in, but you have to be pretty close to that. In 2012 Wisconsin wasn't even ranked but won the B1G. I don't think that's playoff-worthy. Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Two teams will play a 16 game season? No thanks. Quote Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 45 minutes ago, jaws said: Two teams will play a 16 game season? No thanks. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, jaws said: Two teams will play a 16 game season? No thanks. This argument has come up every time the season gets longer. "Play a conference championship game!??!? That would be 14 games!!!!" "A four-team playoff!??!?!? That would be 15 games!!!!!" It's possible that two FCS teams could play 16 game seasons (though 15 is much more likely). It's very possible that two D-II teams will play 16 games. D-III teams play 15 games. I fail to see how that is significantly different than two FBS teams playing a 16th game - especially since those games in FBS would be spread out over nearly a month more allowing for more recovery time. 2 Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mavric said: This argument has come up every time the season gets longer. "Play a conference championship game!??!? That would be 14 games!!!!" "A four-team playoff!??!?!? That would be 15 games!!!!!" It's possible that two FCS teams could play 16 game seasons (though 15 is much more likely). It's very possible that two D-II teams will play 16 games. D-III teams play 15 games. I fail to see how that is significantly different than two FBS teams playing a 16th game - especially since those games in FBS would be spread out over nearly a month more allowing for more recovery time. The more time on the field and practice, the higher the chances are that someone gets hurt. Remember these kids are not getting paid, and some of them need to think about their future (potential NFL careers). Trust me, I understand the amount of football guys in the lower divisions play. I also understand the amount of football some of these kids play in HS. At some point in time, less is more. Quote Link to comment
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