The Shutdown

[B.B. Hemingway]

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

 

 

I am a simple and selfish person, as most of us are, if I was not getting paid right now I would be pissed.  

 

Yeah, I feel bad for them, but no worse than anybody else that has the company they work for "shutdown".  At some point they need to go find another job, like the rest of us do.

[knapplc]

4 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

 

At some point, those government employees need to start getting a paycheck. But, yes. You're right.

 

There is no "emergency" at the border that warrants these people not getting paid.

 

1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

 

Yeah, I feel bad for them, but no worse than anybody else that has the company they work for "shutdown".  At some point they need to go find another job, like the rest of us do. 

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

There is no "emergency" at the border that warrants these people not getting paid.

 

 

Even as someone that thinks a wall would be a worthy endeavor, I agree.

 

 

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

I'm not a very sympathetic person.

[Oade]

40 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Neither side wants to end it unless it is on their terms.  It is sad when you remember that they are "educated" adults that can't figure this out, well, they can figure it out but they refuse to do so at the moment.  

 

Trump isn't against fixing the border...he is against it not be HIS way.  The democrats are not against a wall, they are against HIS wall.  It is Stubborn 101 and both sides have Masters degrees.

 

I am a simple and selfish person, as most of us are, if I was not getting paid right now I would be pissed.  

 

Maybe borderline tinfoil hat perspective, but I feel like both sides have it pretty well figured out..... Let the issues slowly play out, and use it as campaign material and talking points for another two or three decades.

 

I personally think more wall is more useful and necessary than it is not. I also think expanding upon the current wall is simply inevitable, regardless of if it happens under Trump or not.

 

I think Democratic voters and politicians who are opposed to this have supported other politicians in the past who have had sections of wall put into place..... And for as much grand standing as we're seeing right now, I think there will be a dem president (or 5, or 10) who approves more wall constructionution again in the future. Will dem voters blast those politicians in the future? I have my doubts.

 

That's not to say the GOP has the end all solution in hand either. But I agree more with the construction of the wall than not.

 

Both sides have it figured out, create controversy, and win votes.

[BigRedBuster]

 

[teachercd]

1 minute ago, Oade said:

 

Maybe borderline tinfoil hat perspective, but I feel like both sides have it pretty well figured out..... Let the issues slowly play out, and use it as campaign material and talking points for another two or three decades.

 

I personally think more wall is more useful and necessary than it is not. I also think expanding upon the current wall is simply inevitable, regardless of if it happens under Trump or not.

 

I think Democratic voters and politicians who are opposed to this have supported other politicians in the past who have had sections of wall put into place..... And for as much grand standing as we're seeing right now, I think there will be a dem president (or 5, or 10) who approves more wall constitution again in the future. Will dem voters blast those politicians in the future? I have my doubts.

 

That's not to say the GOP has the end all solution in hand either. But I agree More with the construction of the wall than I not.

 

Both sides have it figured out, create controversy, and win votes.

Your post was worded much better than mine!  I agree.

[StPaulHusker]

The State of the Union doesn't need nor should it be covered at this point because there is nothing of value he can say during a government shutdown.

 

Pelosi and Co have tried to end this several times.  They have already offered BILLIONS of dollars for border security but the president is fixated on $5.7B and the express wording of it to be used for a wall.

 

The president is holding the government hostage to get his way.  Not even a compromise.  His way.  If Democrats cave now, he can force a shutdown on anything and that isn't the way it's supposed to work.

[Moiraine]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

 

Trump’s Republican enablers could end this whenever they want. They can override his veto. They are too chickens#!t or too stupid to do so. It isn’t their job to do whatever the president wants because he’s a member of their party. 

[knapplc]

Now that the Swamp has been drained, these people Trump put in power are so relatable to the plight of the common man. And to Millennials!

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

They know they are losing this battle. 

 

 

[Danny Bateman]

18 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Now that the Swamp has been drained, these people Trump put in power are so relatable to the plight of the common man. And to Millennials! 

 

 

 

The day after this happened, too. You'd think some of them would be a bit more self-aware, but nope.

 

 

[StPaulHusker]

LOL at Wilbur Ross

 

"Why are these furloughed federal workers going to food banks to get free food when they could go to a bank and get a loan and have to pay back the money borrowed WITH INTEREST?"

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, StPaulHusker said:

LOL at Wilbur Ross

 

"Why are these furloughed federal workers going to food banks to get free food when they could go to a bank and get a loan and have to pay back the money borrowed WITH INTEREST?"

 

 

Friggen idiot. 

[StPaulHusker]

Well here is some irony....

 

 

 

[VectorVictor]

53 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

They know they are losing this battle. 

 

 

 

Honestly, those 28% of people are just plain broken and will be a continuing cancer in this country.