TheSker Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 13 hours ago, southernoregonhusker said: Frankly, I'm tired of Riley being the scapegoat. He went 6-7, 9-4 and 4-6. People act like he went 0-fer three years in a row. 5 to 7 years? Frost can't win with players other than the ones he recruits? That's a scary thought. Riley sucked. Are you really trying to spin Riley's record in a positive light?..... Frost can win with players he didn't recruit. He did it in a big way at UCF. Half a dozen players that Frost didn't recruit at UCF got drafted. Any guesses on how many Riley recruits that Frost is coaching get drafted? 1 Quote Link to comment
rdg25 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Danimal said: We should get rid of the forced trophy games with Iowa and Wiscy with their lame conventional trophies and play Northwestern for a big NU. Good idea! Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheSker said: Riley sucked. Are you really trying to spin Riley's record in a positive light?..... Frost can win with players he didn't recruit. He did it in a big way at UCF. Half a dozen players that Frost didn't recruit at UCF got drafted. Any guesses on how many Riley recruits that Frost is coaching get drafted? Gotta agree with you here for sure. Riley was horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 That preseason Kool-Aid tasted good and gave us a bit of a rush, but left us with a stomach ache and a bad taste in our mouths. AM is not a gamer or a leader. We miss senior leadership on offense badly. Ozigbo Morgan Farmer Foster Vedral and Robinson are winners. A bowl game looks possible. 1 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, TheSker said: Riley sucked. Are you really trying to spin Riley's record in a positive light?..... Frost can win with players he didn't recruit. He did it in a big way at UCF. Half a dozen players that Frost didn't recruit at UCF got drafted. Any guesses on how many Riley recruits that Frost is coaching get drafted? Stating what his record was isn’t spin, but what you’re doing certainly is. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, SFW said: That preseason Kool-Aid tasted good and gave us a bit of a rush, but left us with a stomach ache and a bad taste in our mouths. AM is not a gamer or a leader. We miss senior leadership on offense badly. Ozigbo Morgan Farmer Foster Vedral and Robinson are winners. A bowl game looks possible. If you think Martinez isn’t a leader and Vedral is more of a “winner” than you are freaking crazy. Vedral hit one worthwhile pass in 4 drives. It’s great that it happened, and I am super glad NU won. If Martinez is out for an extended period, the offense will not be better under Vedral. I don’t know what you saw yesterday which makes you think it would be. 4 2 Quote Link to comment
10_point_buck Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said: If you think Martinez isn’t a leader and Vedral is more of a “winner” than you are freaking crazy. Vedral hit one worthwhile pass in 4 drives. It’s great that it happened, and I am super glad NU won. If Martinez is out for an extended period, the offense will not be better under Vedral. I don’t know what you saw yesterday which makes you think it would be. How do you know it won’t be better? What did you base this off of? Just as easy to say we just don’t know as Vederal could be average, above average, or below average only taking snaps will determine it. From what AM has been doing, a fresh look can’t be any worse IMO. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, 10_point_buck said: How do you know it won’t be better? What did you base this off of? Just as easy to say we just don’t know as Vederal could be average, above average, or below average only taking snaps will determine it. From what AM has been doing, a fresh look can’t be any worse IMO. It didn’t look better in the 4 drives which Vedral QB’ed against Northwestern. Yeah, he had a few good runs, but he doesn’t have the same abilities as Martinez. The offense will be different under Vedral, and I don’t think it will be as good. I could be wrong, but I seem to be in the minority on this board who don’t think Martinez is the “problem” with the offense. 4 Quote Link to comment
10_point_buck Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: It didn’t look better in the 4 drives which Vedral QB’ed against Northwestern. Yeah, he had a few good runs, but he doesn’t have the same abilities as Martinez. The offense will be different under Vedral, and I don’t think it will be as good. I could be wrong, but I seem to be in the minority on this board who don’t think Martinez is the “problem” with the offense. I don’t know either, none of us know. The very limited play book didn’t show much of anything. I’d say, at best, it is TBD. 1 Quote Link to comment
CapoValley Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 It is painfully obvious that hyperbole can run rampant about this football team. You can write off the coaches comparing him to other heisman candidates and media being a glorified propaganda machine, but there were other scouting reports from other teams basically saying Martinez is our guy and that if he got hurt, we’d be in trouble. They weren't wrong. We know now a few things but we don’t know a lot. We know he’s hurt but we don’t know if the northwestern game added upon stuff that he was already dealing with, because he hasn’t looked right all year. We know hes regressed but we we don’t know if it’s due to coaching, injury or just a natural hiccup in maturity. And we know we’re probably in trouble. We just don’t know how much but that game next week is on the road, at night, potentially in the snow against an undefeated team and possibly with a backup. This season just got a lot more interesting Quote Link to comment
CalhounHusker Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I will say the biggest knock on Chin’s defense was that it would give up yards, but would force TO’s, which is exactly what it has done. 2 Quote Link to comment
CAHusker Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, SFW said: That preseason Kool-Aid tasted good and gave us a bit of a rush, but left us with a stomach ache and a bad taste in our mouths. AM is struggling this year, but our offensive line is not playing well. Vedral is doing a nice job when he gets in the game. We are probably getting to point to where he should get a series or two in the first half, if Martinez is struggling. We miss senior leadership on offense badly. Ozigbo Morgan Farmer Foster A bowl game looks possible. Fixed it for ya Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 38 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: If you think Martinez isn’t a leader and Vedral is more of a “winner” than you are freaking crazy. Vedral hit one worthwhile pass in 4 drives. It’s great that it happened, and I am super glad NU won. If Martinez is out for an extended period, the offense will not be better under Vedral. I don’t know what you saw yesterday which makes you think it would be. Vedral was decisive and sudden. Looked like he was having fun. AM is none of the above. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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