Jason Sitoke Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I didn’t think you could provide “the receipts” since they don’t exist. I mean some easy ones would be for you to prove the GOP is anti-Vax. What you will do is provide some fringe individuals who claim the vaccine is killing millions or a tracking device. You might provide some politicians who say they don’t need the vaccine because they were previously infected. (Israel data is showing that may we’ll be the case). But what you won’t do is show the GOP saying people should not get the vaccine. You will find that registered republicans are vaccinated at a rate of 55%, which is an odd outlier. Of course this doesn't prove the bolded, but the data certainly suggests it. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, knapplc said: Nah. I'm just not interested in trying to convince someone who won't listen to reason. Why waste that time on you? It’s actually because you can’t prove what you so desperately wish was true. It’s unfortunate that you make these big bold claims, yet offer no sourcing besides “we lived through the last few years” 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, Archy1221 said: It’s actually because you can’t prove what you so desperately wish was true. It’s unfortunate that you make these big bold claims, yet offer no sourcing besides “we lived through the last few years” It's funny to see you regurgitate the lines people post at you. Why do you do that? 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said: You will find that registered republicans are vaccinated at a rate of 55%, which is an odd outlier. Of course this doesn't prove the bolded, but the data certainly suggests it. This is 2 weeks old now, but the most recent I could find. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-news-poll-shows-demographic-breakdown-vaccinated-u-s-n1277514 All adults: 69 percent Men: 67 percent Women: 71 percent 18-34: 63 percent 35-49: 58 percent 50-64: 71 percent 65+: 86 percent Whites: 66 percent Blacks: 76 percent Latinos: 71 percent Urban residents: 79 percent Suburban residents: 67 percent Rural residents: 52 percent White evangelicals: 59 percent Democrats: 88 percent Independents: 60 percent Republicans: 55 percent Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent White non-college grads: 60 percent White college grads: 80 percent 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: It’s actually because you can’t prove what you so desperately wish was true. It’s unfortunate that you make these big bold claims, yet offer no sourcing besides “we lived through the last few years” No, it's because various subjects have been explained and shown to you over a long time and you refuse to accept it. You post something and posters ask you to prove it....your response...."I'm not going to do your research for you". Others post something and you ask them to prove it...they say, "I'm not going to do that again" and your response is...."See, you can't do it". It's played out quite often on here. 4 Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: This is 2 weeks old now, but the most recent I could find. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-news-poll-shows-demographic-breakdown-vaccinated-u-s-n1277514 All adults: 69 percent Men: 67 percent Women: 71 percent 18-34: 63 percent 35-49: 58 percent 50-64: 71 percent 65+: 86 percent Whites: 66 percent Blacks: 76 percent Latinos: 71 percent Urban residents: 79 percent Suburban residents: 67 percent Rural residents: 52 percent White evangelicals: 59 percent Democrats: 88 percent Independents: 60 percent Republicans: 55 percent Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent White non-college grads: 60 percent White college grads: 80 percent The anti-vaxx campaign has worked pretty well amongst Republicans. Those are pretty damning numbers. 3 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said: You will find that registered republicans are vaccinated at a rate of 55%, which is an odd outlier. Of course this doesn't prove the bolded, but the data certainly suggests it. There is no doubt the Republicans are less likely to get vaccinated compared to Democrats. That is far cry from the GOP is anti-vaccine. 1 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, knapplc said: The anti-vaxx campaign has worked pretty well amongst Republicans. Those are pretty damning numbers. If you know a young(ish), white, male, rural, evangelical, blue collar, Trump supporter...there is a pretty good chance he's not getting the jab. 2 Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: There is no doubt the Republicans are less likely to get vaccinated compared to Democrats. That is far cry from the GOP is anti-vaccine. So what drives the discrepancy? If not strictly anti-vax (whatever that means), would it be fair to conclude that the GOP's messaging has likely been a factor? 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: No, it's because various subjects have been explained and shown to you over a long time and you refuse to accept it. You post something and posters ask you to prove it....your response...."I'm not going to do your research for you". Others post something and you ask them to prove it...they say, "I'm not going to do that again" and your response is...."See, you can't do it". It's played out quite often on here. If your referring to my conversation from this weekend, my source was embedded in my post unlike what you are claiming. You make s#!t up far too often and it’s played out too much. Wish you wouldn’t make claims about me but I don’t see you changing. Will just continue to call out your BS claims. 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, Archy1221 said: If your referring to my conversation from this weekend, my source was embedded in my post unlike what you are claiming. You make s#!t up far too often and it’s played out too much. Wish you wouldn’t make claims about me but I don’t see you changing. Will just continue to call out your BS claims. Thanks for proving my point. 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Jason Sitoke said: So what drives the discrepancy? If not strictly anti-vax (whatever that means), would it be fair to conclude that the GOP's messaging has likely been a factor? You could rightly say some members of the GOP do not help and have terrible messaging for sure. But to make the claim that the GOP is anti-vaccine like someone claimed here just isn’t accurate. The past 2 Republican presidents and Leadership is telling people they should really consider getting Covid vaccine 2 Link to comment
commando Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: Anyone who thinks the GOP is part of some international ring of people trying to discredit institutions and the foundations of society is quite the conspiracy fool and should be treated as such. They should probably put their tin foil hat away and come join normal societal thinking. stop the steal kind of refutes your claim that the republican party isn't trying to undermine confidence in the voting system. trump trying desperately to convince everyone the the intelligence agencies are out to get him and the GOP parroting those claims goes towards disputing your claim. every election cycle the republican campaign ads are little more than "vote for me rather than the socialist libtard monster i am running against" crap. i don't believe all republicans are bad...but there are a whole slew of them holding the reins of power in the GOP right now who are. 3 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Thanks for proving my point. If providing my sources data equals proving your point, I guess I did. 1 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: This is 2 weeks old now, but the most recent I could find. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-news-poll-shows-demographic-breakdown-vaccinated-u-s-n1277514 All adults: 69 percent Men: 67 percent Women: 71 percent 18-34: 63 percent 35-49: 58 percent 50-64: 71 percent 65+: 86 percent Whites: 66 percent Blacks: 76 percent Latinos: 71 percent Urban residents: 79 percent Suburban residents: 67 percent Rural residents: 52 percent White evangelicals: 59 percent Democrats: 88 percent Independents: 60 percent Republicans: 55 percent Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent White non-college grads: 60 percent White college grads: 80 percent How do you feel about this data? Do you believe black and Latino Americans are vaccinated at that rate which is at or almost the Asian American vaccination rate 1 Link to comment
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