onlyHskrfaninIL Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Ummmm....not where I live and not where I travel for work. wait.....did you go into your bunker in March and not realize almost all of that has opened back up? not where i live. restaurants are open for limited outside seating and carryout. i didnt go to any bunker i kept working. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Archy1221 said: Hospitals get a 20% kicker from CMS for COVID patients. It’s legislation from the CARES Act. the thing to look out for is what the death talley is the next 2 years once Covid deaths significantly fall. Vast majority of deaths are in age group 70 and above. How many of those people that unfortunately passed away with Covid diagnosis would have passed away within the next 24 months anyways? If Covid is under control by March/April of next year, will the 2021 and 2022 death count be lower than what’s normally expected because of those who passed away in 2020. It's amazing how easy it is to be callous about someone else's life. 4 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, onlyHskrfaninIL said: not where i live. restaurants are open for limited outside seating and carryout. i didnt go to any bunker i kept working. So...you claimed all those things are shut down, but they’re not. 3 Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: It's amazing how easy it is to be callous about someone else's life. Who’s being callous? 1 Quote Link to comment
onlyHskrfaninIL Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, teachercd said: Like...I get it...I get that on TV they show the protesting teachers, it makes for a better story. Since Monday I have been at school and practice...No one wants to be at home teaching. I sort of don't want to coach because the kids I have are horrible but still...I have a a covid "survivor" on my staff, he is all in...I have a 45 year teaching vet on the staff, he is all in... Do I hate wearing a mask to teach and coach in all day, yes. Very much so. its a little different here. the schools here were supposed to open with parents having the choice of all in person or all e learning. the super announced this about 2-3 weeks ago. i was ok with that we were going to send our autistic son back in person because he needs to be around typical kids. last friday they send out an email saying they changed their mind and its all in person then today we get an email saying they dont have laptops for all the kids because of some shipping delay. its been a huge cluster-f. my wife has gotten emails from some teachers who did want to go back saying apparently there was basically a boycott from the union and no one (or not enough) wanted to work because they were scared. 2 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Hospitals get a 20% kicker from CMS for COVID patients. It’s legislation from the CARES Act. Key word patient. They don't get extra money for COVID deaths. the thing to look out for is what the death talley is the next 2 years once Covid deaths significantly fall. Vast majority of deaths are in age group 70 and above. How many of those people that unfortunately passed away with Covid diagnosis would have passed away within the next 24 months anyways? If Covid is under control by March/April of next year, will the 2021 and 2022 death count be lower than what’s normally expected because of those who passed away in 2020. Will deaths be less in the future than they are now? Yes but not because of what you are saying. Better therapies+vaccine/immunity will drive down deaths by 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment
onlyHskrfaninIL Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: So...you claimed all those things are shut down, but they’re not. well you got me there buster..the restaurants are at 30% of previous capacity instead of 0%. i guess we are all systems go a ok. 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, onlyHskrfaninIL said: well you got me there buster..the restaurants are at 30% of previous capacity instead of 0%. i guess we are all systems go a ok. Thoughts & prayers. Hope you can hold up. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/us/virus-young-deaths.amp.html Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Nebfanatic said: Will deaths be less in the future than they are now? Yes but not because of what you are saying. Better therapies+vaccine/immunity will drive down deaths by 2022. Sorry but I’m not sure I phrased that properly. I mean the overall US death numbers from everything combined. If the US has 100,000 citizens pass away this year in excess of what’s normal, but 80% of those patients were 75 years old and above and 40% Of them would have passed away in the next two years regardless of Covid, it’s possible that the total US deaths in 2021 or 2022 with be under what’s considered normal. This is a different scenario than the Spanish flu being that the Spanish flu killed so many people under age of 50. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
onlyHskrfaninIL Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, knapplc said: Thoughts & prayers. Hope you can hold up. hey now...i wear a mask for YOU and give you priority hours at the grocery store you keep those prayers 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, onlyHskrfaninIL said: well you got me there buster..the restaurants are at 30% of previous capacity instead of 0%. i guess we are all systems go a ok. Actually, no. They are at whatever capacity they can hold as long as groups are under 10 and tables are 6 feet apart. https://www.illinoisrestaurants.org/news/513835/State-of-Illinois-Releases-Phase-IV-Guidelines-for-Restaurants-and-Bars.htm now, standing room is around there. Quote Link to comment
onlyHskrfaninIL Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Actually, no. They are at whatever capacity they can hold as long as groups are under 10 and tables are 6 feet apart. https://www.illinoisrestaurants.org/news/513835/State-of-Illinois-Releases-Phase-IV-Guidelines-for-Restaurants-and-Bars.htm now, standing room is around there. well what a hoot. see its not just about the rules its also about perception and there are so many irrationally afraid that dont want to venture out of their bedroom. that goes back to my original comment. good night very fun chatting with you. 1 Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Will deaths be less in the future than they are now? Yes but not because of what you are saying. Better therapies+vaccine/immunity will drive down deaths by 2022. Unless I’m wrong, hospitals don’t get paid for any deaths. They get paid for services rendered to the patient. Only the physician who performs the announcement of death can bill for it. 3 Quote Link to comment
I am I Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Who’s being callous? Exactly. we all get it. Been wearing a mask and only leaving when necessary for 5 months. I care about those that suffered the ultimate demise. those that get it, get it. Some will be okay, others not. Some will die, others not. It’s bad and it sucks really bad. I know a few on both spectrums. It’s sad, not callous. but it’s here, and the ‘science’ says those under 25ish will not suffer the bad parts. If you are in a vulnerable place, stay home. If not, we have we must get things moving. Including football. Football isn’t an answer, but what will happen when we don’t is chaos and more detrimental than everyone doing nothing in society. not callous, but looking to 6-10 months from now it’ll be worse since we are now doing nothing (society/physically). 3 1 Quote Link to comment
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