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What is the future of the Republican Party?

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Archy1221 Defensive Coordinator

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9 hours ago, deedsker said:

So a massive hurricane is predicted for your South Carolina home on the beach, it moves south as it approaches land and hit Florida. Therefore, there are no more worries about a hurricane ever hitting South Carolina again and your beach front home is perfectly fine forever. No need to look into what could have been or what may occur following the impact elsewhere.

Again doesn’t work.  Maybe just concentrate on the subject matter at hand and let me know freedoms we lost or “almost lost”. 

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3 hours ago, knapplc said:

Apparently future GOP presidential candidate DeSantis likes this page from the trump playbook.

 

 

That's a disqualification from public office right there. Next. 

 

Trying to get rid of the front runner I see. 

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As the small minded GOP House leaders prepare to kick Liz out of her leadership role, Liz stands tall and tells it like it is - with a big minded historical perspective.

 

At this point, I'm ready for Liz, Romney, Sasse and the other non-cult members to start a new party. The GOP is lost and it has been taken over by a cult that reaches to the highest level of the party.    My concern is that if DeSantis wins the nomination and the 2024 election, the current GOP cult will only be reinforced - the Cult Wizard, Trump, will still be turning the knobs behind the curtain, not just in Kansas, but across the nation. 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/rep-liz-cheney-urges-republicans-to-reject-trump-cult-of-personality-.html

 

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  • Rep. Liz Cheney wrote in an op-ed that the Republican Party must “steer away from the dangerous and anti-democratic Trump cult of personality.”
  • The GOP “is at a turning point, and Republicans must decide whether we are going to choose truth and fidelity to the Constitution,” Cheney wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.
  • Cheney’s clarion call came as a flood of House Republicans, including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Minority Whip Steve Scalise, say they are through with her serving as House Republican Conference chair.

The GOP must “steer away from the dangerous and anti-democratic Trump cult of personality,” argued Rep. Liz Cheney, the No. 3 Republican in the House, in an op-ed Wednesday.

“The Republican Party is at a turning point, and Republicans must decide whether we are going to choose truth and fidelity to the Constitution,” Cheney wrote in The Washington Post.

 

The clarion call from Cheney came as a flood of House Republicans, including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Minority Whip Steve Scalise, say they are through with her serving as House Republican Conference chair.

But in the op-ed Cheney, of Wyoming, appeared to cast aside concerns about her status in the party.

“History is watching. Our children are watching. We must be brave enough to defend the basic principles that underpin and protect our freedom and our democratic process. I am committed to doing that, no matter what the short-term political consequences might be,” Cheney wrote.

Cheney was the only member of Republican leadership to vote for former President Donald Trump’s impeachment in the wake of the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. Trump “summoned this mob, assembled the mob and lit the flame of this attack,” Cheney said at the time.

Trump was acquitted in the Senate on an article of inciting an insurrection.

 

Since Trump left office, Cheney has stood apart from many of her Republican colleagues through her willingness to keep speaking out against Trump, who continues to falsely insist he beat President Joe Biden and spread baseless conspiracy theories about widespread voter fraud.

On Tuesday, McCarthy reportedly said of Cheney: “I’ve had it with her. You know, I’ve lost confidence.” A spokeswoman for Scalise said the whip has pledged his support to Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., who emerged as an ardent defender of Trump during his first impeachment.

Trump and other Republicans have also backed Stefanik.

Cheney’s op-ed asserted that it’s not enough to simply look the other way on Trump’s unfounded election claims.

“Trump is seeking to unravel critical elements of our constitutional structure that make democracy work — confidence in the result of elections and the rule of law. No other American president has ever done this,” Cheney’s op-ed said.

“While embracing or ignoring Trump’s statements might seem attractive to some for fundraising and political purposes, that approach will do profound long-term damage to our party and our country,” she wrote.

She pointed out that McCarthy, in the wake of the attack on the Capitol, said Trump “bears responsibility” for the attack and “should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding.” 

McCarthy has now “changed his story,” said Cheney.

Cheney rejected Trump’s persistent claims about a “rigged” election that cast doubt on U.S. institutions. “This is immensely harmful, especially as we now compete on the world stage against Communist China and its claims that democracy is a failed system,” she wrote.

Republicans, Cheney said, should support the Department of Justice’s ongoing investigations into the Jan. 6 invasion. More than 400 people now face charges related to the attack.

The GOP should also back a “parallel bipartisan review” of the invasion “by a commission with subpoena power to seek and find facts,” she said.

Lastly, Republicans “need to stand for genuinely conservative principles, and steer away from the dangerous and anti-democratic Trump cult of personality,” Cheney said.

She invoked the memory of former President Ronald Reagan, a Republican icon, saying he “formed a broad coalition from across the political spectrum to return America to sanity, and we need to do the same now.”

“But this will not happen if Republicans choose to abandon the rule of law and join Trump’s crusade to undermine the foundation of our democracy and reverse the legal outcome of the last election,” she said.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Archy1221 said:

Again doesn’t work.  Maybe just concentrate on the subject matter at hand and let me know freedoms we lost or “almost lost”. 

We almost lost all our freedoms. Like, we were about to become much more like Columbia or Venezuela where people that aren't wanted disappear or are jailed. An authoritarian regime almost took over the United States and was a broken window of a women getting shot or a police officer baiting people in another direction away from becoming.

 

The highest of threat level on your barometer kind of almost. 

 

BTW, just because the analogy doesn't work for you doesn't mean there wasn't something there to be had. An individual's inability to perceive an abstract idea and apply it to other systems doesn't make the thought invalid. The individual is just left missing the color in the brush that is applied to multiple paintings.

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So, the person the GOP leadership wants to replace Liz with is on Steve Bannon's show.  Yep.....the future of the Republican party isn't whacko Qanon conspiracy nut jobs.

 

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"My vision is to run with support from the president [Trump] and his coalition of voters, which was the highest number of votes ever won by a Republican nominee," Stefanik reportedly told Bannon on his "War Room" podcast on Thursday.

“This is also about being one team. And I’m committed to being a voice and sending a clear message that we are one team, and that means working with the president and working with all of our excellent Republican members of Congress.”

Stefanik has emerged as the likely successor to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), who is likely to be ousted as conference chair next week. 

Cheney has come under criticism from former President Trump and other Republicans for her frequent criticisms of Trump. 

The two House GOP leaders ahead of Cheney have been open about supporting efforts to remove her. Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) this week endorsed Stefanik to replace Cheney.

 

 

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2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, the person the GOP leadership wants to replace Liz with is on Steve Bannon's show.  Yep.....the future of the Republican party isn't whacko Qanon conspiracy nut jobs.

You know the party has  :flush  when a former GOP presidential nominee and decent guy like Romney is heckled and and a life long committed and senior Congresswoman, Cheney, is treated this way.   These people have sold their soul to Trump as have  Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham, Cruz - all who despised Trump previously,   Makes you wonder if Trump has info on these people that they don't want exposed :dunno   What a corrupt game when good people are shoved to the side and denounced and losers like Trump et al run the show.

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