Archy1221 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, funhusker said: I really wish you'd quit making everything about race.... Ok 54 minutes ago, funhusker said: I really wish you'd quit making everything about race.... Ok. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I am sure this will end well. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 So, Ukraine is a sovereign country that Russia had great influence over. The people decided they didn't like it and started wanting to be closer to Europe and the west. Putin doesn't like it and his answer is to force them to like him. Even if Putin invaded and won the war, this is still disastrous for them because they would be ruling over a foreign country that doesn't want to be under Russia influence. Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: So, Ukraine is a sovereign country that Russia had great influence over. The people decided they didn't like it and started wanting to be closer to Europe and the west. Putin doesn't like it and his answer is to force them to like him. Even if Putin invaded and won the war, this is still disastrous for them because they would be ruling over a foreign country that doesn't want to be under Russia influence. I'm not well read on this, but that was my first thought. Seems very expensive in terms of money lost and lives lost. Have fun pouring money into Ukraine for the next few decades? I guess he might stop at disputed portions in East Ukraine? Link to comment
Scarlet Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: So, Ukraine is a sovereign country that Russia had great influence over. The people decided they didn't like it and started wanting to be closer to Europe and the west. Putin doesn't like it and his answer is to force them to like him. Even if Putin invaded and won the war, this is still disastrous for them because they would be ruling over a foreign country that doesn't want to be under Russia influence. Easy to pick out the Russian bots in the comments of this tweet. They're actually blaming the US and the Pentagon for war mongering. Appeasement has worked so well in the past. Link to comment
ZRod Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, FrantzHardySwag said: I'm not well read on this, but that was my first thought. Seems very expensive in terms of money lost and lives lost. Have fun pouring money into Ukraine for the next few decades? I guess he might stop at disputed portions in East Ukraine? The other angle that no one has mentioned is resources. Ukraine is the largest country in Europe (outside of Russia). They have iron ore, titanium, and Uranium (some of the largest deposits in Europe). They also have a lot of coal, oil and natural gas. And I believe Ukraine is also the largest grain producer in Europe. Russia is already a major energy improper for the EU. Controlling minerals and food would be icing on the cake, and a good strategy to remain relevant with most of Europe having aggressive plans to phase out the use of fossil fuels. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, ZRod said: The other angle that no one has mentioned is resources. Ukraine is the largest country in Europe (outside of Russia). They have iron ore, titanium, and Uranium (some of the largest deposits in Europe). They also have a lot of coal, oil and natural gas. And I believe Ukraine is also the largest grain producer in Europe. Russia is already a major energy improper for the EU. Controlling minerals and food would be icing on the cake, and a good strategy to remain relevant with most of Europe having aggressive plans to phase out the use of fossil fuels. There is a decent chance that phasing out fossil fuels could make us more energy reliant on bad actor countries unless we come up with a plan to acquire or mine rate earth minerals 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, ZRod said: The other angle that no one has mentioned is resources. Ukraine is the largest country in Europe (outside of Russia). They have iron ore, titanium, and Uranium (some of the largest deposits in Europe). They also have a lot of coal, oil and natural gas. And I believe Ukraine is also the largest grain producer in Europe. Russia is already a major energy improper for the EU. Controlling minerals and food would be icing on the cake, and a good strategy to remain relevant with most of Europe having aggressive plans to phase out the use of fossil fuels. But…he would still be ruling over a sovereign country that doesn’t want him. That’s not going to end well. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 I’m old enough to remember when Republicans told us all to stop talking about Russia. 2 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I’m old enough to remember when Republicans told us all to stop talking about Russia. Are you old enough to remember when Obama told Romney to get out of the 80’s foreign policy? 2 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Laughy O'lantern man struggling to come up with a salient argument. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment
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