teachercd Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 38 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: LOL...he won't. It will all be the same... "Who we losin, trust me, please, trust me, who we losin?" 2 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 hours ago, teachercd said: It will all be the same... "Who we losin, trust me, please, trust me, who we losin?" For every transfer they bring in they're losing 2 because that entire team at this point is made of transfers who all came with the idea they'd be starting. Those 'scrubs' might be useful to have around in the Big12 where Colorado may see 150-160 plays a game with the new headset rules in an already high tempo conference. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If Colorado is losing players because better players have jumped them on the depth chart, Colorado might be pretty good. If there's something toxic about the program and the leadership that's making them flee, Colorado will be a dumpster fire. I think it's fair to say that a season without improvement would signal the end of Deion's run. 1 Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: If Colorado is losing players because better players have jumped them on the depth chart, Colorado might be pretty good. If there's something toxic about the program and the leadership that's making them flee, Colorado will be a dumpster fire. I think it's fair to say that a season without improvement would signal the end of Deion's run. The problem is that they will have weak line play. There is a shortage of OL/DL talent in the portal. None of the top guys are going to CU. They will get and have good skill players like RB, QB, WR, DBs but they won’t be able to block or stop anyone. Dylan left because they hardly run the ball as is & are looking to bring in two more portal guys. So his reps were going to lean out. 1 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: I think it's fair to say that a season without improvement would signal the end of Deion's run. Barring a scandal or similar, probably not. Due to all of the free media attention he gets, he's generated an enormous amount of value for the university. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, brophog said: Barring a scandal or similar, probably not. Due to all of the free media attention he gets, he's generated an enormous amount of value for the university. Yeah, that and they didn't have enough to pay his salary to start with, let alone a buy out. But I could definitely see him leave after this year, either because a couple key players leave or because he knows he's really screwed if he can't even win with them. 2 Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Mavric said: Yeah, that and they didn't have enough to pay his salary to start with, let alone a buy out. But I could definitely see him leave after this year, either because a couple key players leave or because he knows he's really screwed if he can't even win with them. Especially his two sons being gone 2 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I don't think they are getting "better players" as much as they are just getting new players that are for the most part similar to what has left. They are probably a team that will go based off of about 10-12 players. The games where they go 42-50 for 450 yards and 4 TD passes, they will be okay. Everything is based around their QB/WRs, which makes sense. I bet you see really wide splits from their OL this year, like what TT used to do and a deeper shotgun drop, like what Mizzo used to do. Trying to keep guys off the QB as much as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 44 minutes ago, teachercd said: I don't think they are getting "better players" as much as they are just getting new players that are for the most part similar to what has left. They are probably a team that will go based off of about 10-12 players. The games where they go 42-50 for 450 yards and 4 TD passes, they will be okay. I really think they could have been a Top-3 program this year .... in their old conference. 3 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Mavric said: Yeah, that and they didn't have enough to pay his salary to start with, let alone a buy out. But I could definitely see him leave after this year, either because a couple key players leave or because he knows he's really screwed if he can't even win with them. Yeah, I think Deion's leaving will be orchestrated by Deion 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, brophog said: Barring a scandal or similar, probably not. Due to all of the free media attention he gets, he's generated an enormous amount of value for the university. Yep. CU has neither the money nor the desire to fire Deion. He did what they needed most - sold enough tickets to get the athletic dept out of the red. Winning is and was a distant second to that. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I mean, we would have to see the books but I would imagine there is a lot of money to be made with a having a very popular (losing) team. Cubs did it for years and banked. The Huskers have done it for what, 7 or 8 years now? You could probably make an argument that if CU had a different coach last year and squeaked out a 6-6 season with some lame bowl game, that they would have made way less. Now, what will happen is the fans/media will stop caring if the they keep sucking. 1 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 14 hours ago, teachercd said: I mean, we would have to see the books but I would imagine there is a lot of money to be made with a having a very popular (losing) team. Cubs did it for years and banked. The Huskers have done it for what, 7 or 8 years now? You could probably make an argument that if CU had a different coach last year and squeaked out a 6-6 season with some lame bowl game, that they would have made way less. Now, what will happen is the fans/media will stop caring if the they keep sucking. Not to veer into P&R territory, but when Deion came to Colorado from an HBU and drew a lot of haters with him, Colorado gained a major profile and rooting interest from Black Americans, including those with no previous college allegiance and many who didn't otherwise follow football at all. Deion was a huge mainstream media story the first few games of the year, with millions of dollars swirling around him and the University, but it dropped off the map when Colorado plummeted to the bottom of the conference. I don't see the hype coming back, even if CU adds two wins and gets to a bowl game. If he sticks around and genuinely builds the program, he'll deserve the respect. That just feels like a long shot right now. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 48 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Not to veer into P&R territory, but when Deion came to Colorado from an HBU and drew a lot of haters with him, Colorado gained a major profile and rooting interest from Black Americans, including those with no previous college allegiance and many who didn't otherwise follow football at all. Deion was a huge mainstream media story the first few games of the year, with millions of dollars swirling around him and the University, but it dropped off the map when Colorado plummeted to the bottom of the conference. I don't see the hype coming back, even if CU adds two wins and gets to a bowl game. If he sticks around and genuinely builds the program, he'll deserve the respect. That just feels like a long shot right now. Yeah, I think it was just a very quick flash for CU and the way they started last year it makes sense that they were so popular. Quote Link to comment
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