Red Five Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 And my favorite graph on how to compare teams (or otherwise know as "The Big Ten has a lot of bad teams") 2 Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 B1G West has to be home to the worst quarterbacking in the country 2023 ESPN QBR (through Friday night's game) 1) JJ McCarthy 94.2 2) Tyler Van Dyke 94.0 3) Michael Penix 91.6 4) Dillon Gabriel 89.5 5) Caleb Williams 88.5 49) Athan Kaliakmanis 64.9 (Minnesota) 75) Hudson Card 54.7 (Purdue) 82) Tanner Mordecai 51.5 (Wisconsin) 88) Heinrich Haarberg 47.3 89) Luke Altmeyer 47.1 (Illinois) 98) Ben Bryant 41.6 (Northwestern) 123) Cade McNamara 28.1 (Iowa) 124) Casey Thompson 28.1 Jeff Sims 30.2 (Not ranked due to only playing 2 games) 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Red Five said: B1G West has to be home to the worst quarterbacking in the country 2023 ESPN QBR (through Friday night's game) 1) JJ McCarthy 94.2 2) Tyler Van Dyke 94.0 3) Michael Penix 91.6 4) Dillon Gabriel 89.5 5) Caleb Williams 88.5 49) Athan Kaliakmanis 64.9 (Minnesota) 75) Hudson Card 54.7 (Purdue) 82) Tanner Mordecai 51.5 (Wisconsin) 88) Heinrich Haarberg 47.3 89) Luke Altmeyer 47.1 (Illinois) 98) Ben Bryant 41.6 (Northwestern) 123) Cade McNamara 28.1 (Iowa) 124) Casey Thompson 28.1 Jeff Sims 30.2 (Not ranked due to only playing 2 games) Weird how many people have been claiming Thompson >> Sims >> HH 1 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Having lost to Minnesota doesn't change anything in relation to us still controlling our destiny in the West. Just makes it way harder to win it. The Gophers play Michigan tonight and then Ohio State towards the end of the year. So they'll start racking up the losses there. But Wisconsin gets the easy route by drawing Rutgers & Indiana for their cross divisional game. The other one is Ohio State, but they're so lucky on Rutgers & Indiana. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Mavric said: Weird how many people have been claiming Thompson >> Sims >> HH If Sims didn't turn the ball over that would be true, but he did and it cost us 2 games so... Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, ZRod said: If seems didn't turn the ball over that would be true, but he did and it cost us 2 games so... Sims also played two better teams than Haarberg, save Michigan obviously. We can go round and round, the fact is the offense is terrible this year regardless of either at QB and that isn't going to change. We are who we are in 2023. 2 Quote Link to comment
Waldo Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 11:13 AM, Red Five said: And my favorite graph on how to compare teams (or otherwise know as "The Big Ten has a lot of bad teams") The Big Three or the Little 9? Yikes Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, ZRod said: If seems didn't turn the ball over that would be true, but he did and it cost us 2 games so... If you take away the bad stuff, what's left is better. Also, the stats say it's not true. But people still want to believe it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, runningblind said: Sims also played two better teams than Haarberg, save Michigan obviously. We can go round and round, the fact is the offense is terrible this year regardless of either at QB and that isn't going to change. We are who we are in 2023. Yards per play allowed: Minnesota #96 Colorado #123 Louisiana Tech #67 Michigan #23 Illinois #61 But keep believing what you want to believe. Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mavric said: Yards per play allowed: Minnesota #96 Colorado #123 Louisiana Tech #67 Michigan #23 Illinois #61 But keep believing what you want to believe. What part of teams versus defense did you not understand? There's more to a total game than one stat. Also, thanks for ignoring the rest of my statement and just cherry picking what you want to argue like always. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, runningblind said: What part of teams versus defense did you not understand? I mean ... the part where you didn't use the phrase "teams versus defense" would make it pretty hard to understand. 6 minutes ago, runningblind said: There's more to a total game than one stat If you would like to provide which stat you're using to make the claim, be my guest. You rarely do. 3 Quote Link to comment
ndobney Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 We ain’t beating Maryland 1 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Give me Haarberg. It's not pretty or glamourous, but he is protecting the ball and giving his team a chance. I'm "Throw the damn ball" guy, and some of these games are brutally boring and ugly. However, if HH (or any QB) throws 24 times and just one pass in an interception - especially when it is 30+ yards down field with a DB making a good play on it - I can totally live with that. In fact, all coaches and players can live with that. Bottom line, HH is protecting the ball and keeping the offense going, one sluggish play at a time. And I'm okay with that. Meaning, look back over the years (and the first two games of this year against Minn & CU). You ask "How did the Huskers lose to NW? How did the Huskers lose to iLLinois? How did the Huskers lose Purdue or Iowa? What happened??" More often than not, momentum swings because of the QB turning the ball over and over again. And defenses getting tired of running onto the field again. But also, there have been some dumb coaching decisions too in those games. But mostly, losing those games comes down to bad play by the quarterback. And it gets old and tiring. HH is no perfect QB by any means. But he is tough, he runs hard, he protects the ball, and he's learning to throw it away and avoid the sack. Plus, he hasn't been competing in games since he was a HS Senior, 2-3 years ago. It takes time. And I don't even know where Kearny Nebraska is. Heard of it, but means nothing to me. Or the small town Nebraska kid story. That's great an all, but as a QB that I want playing against NW, Purdue, Michigan State, Wisconsin & IOwa?? Give me HH. He might not win you the game single handedly (does he really have to??) but also HH isn't going to give the game away to those teams. And that's what I like, what impresses me, and where I stand. Plus, it is really nice seeing Sims come up and congratulate HH every time with a big smile. They are teammates that want to win. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Mavric said: If you take away the bad stuff, what's left is better. Also, the stats say it's not true. But people still want to believe it. All three have been awful throwing the ball this year so it’s really not saying much that one is “better” than the other, and Thompson has no chance to improve upon it but his past says yes he is better than HH. 3 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, admo said: And I don't even know where Kearny Nebraska is. Heard of it, but means nothing to me. You seriously don't know where Kearney is? Have you ever been to Nebraska? In terms of Nebraska cities, Kearney isn't a "small town". I thought I was bad with me being from Omaha and thinking anything west of Lincoln is "Western Nebraska". 1 2 Quote Link to comment
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