Potential Assistant coach change(s)

[gobiggergoredder]

2 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

 

I'm shocked Satt is being entertained as a mid term option.  HH didn't get any better in his mechanics or reads throughout the year.  If anything, he got worse.  And Sims never got on track.  

The fact that you're basing Satt's performance/capability on the bold is a tell.   What would you have done?

 

You're the F100 leader.  You've got a guy that can't do a TPS report and another that is a loose cannon and makes lude comments.  One can't do his job and the other is a liability.  You're on a hiring freeze for 6 months and these are the only two employees that can do their job....barely.  Take us through it bossman.

 

[Hilltop]

7 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

Develop teenage and early 20's talent, yes.  DI B1G Coordinators making hundreds of thousands of dollars?  

 

As a F100 company you're not bringing in unproven, failed, or inexperienced ELT members for a massive corporate turnaround to appease shareholders and stakeholders.  

 

I'm shocked Satt is being entertained as a mid term option.  HH didn't get any better in his mechanics or reads throughout the year.  If anything, he got worse.  And Sims never got on track.  

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

 

One thing to consider is trust.  Money can't buy that and to build something special, a guy really needs to trust those around him.  In my management career, I have had much better success with guys I develop, and trust, than hot shots brought in as a band aid.  I think the same is true in coaching, and many other areas of leadership. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I have a hard time seeing Satt as an elite OC right now.  That said, he has a tremendous amount of experience and with the right direction, he just might turn into what we all want.    

[gobiggergoredder]

1 minute ago, Hilltop said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

 

One thing to consider is trust.  Money can't buy that and to build something special, a guy really needs to trust those around him.  In my management career, I have had much better success with guys I develop, and trust, than hot shots brought in as a band aid.  I think the same is true in coaching, and many other areas of leadership. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I have a hard time seeing Satt as an elite OC right now.  That said, he has a tremendous amount of experience and with the right direction, he just might turn into what we all want.    

The other thing if we are going to do real world comparisons is Consultants.  You can bring in consultants to bridge organizational gaps and/or build capabilities.  I think that is what is going here.....but I don't really know.  Even if DH becomes the QB coach and not an analyst, he's still significantly below his demonstrated skill level which would almost make him a consultant.

 

Sometimes you end up hiring the consultant.  Not very often, but it does happen.

[DefenderAO]

2 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

The fact that you're basing Satt's performance/capability on the bold is a tell.   What would you have done?

 

You're the F100 leader.  You've got a guy that can't do a TPS report and another that is a loose cannon and makes lude comments.  One can't do his job and the other is a liability.  You're on a hiring freeze for 6 months and these are the only two employees that can do their job....barely.  Take us through it bossman.

 

So, you're good with a program like Nebraska being a stage for developing top coordinators?

 

To develop football players you need seasoned, proven coaches.  Satterfield isn't that.  

[DefenderAO]

15 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

 

One thing to consider is trust.  Money can't buy that and to build something special, a guy really needs to trust those around him.  In my management career, I have had much better success with guys I develop, and trust, than hot shots brought in as a band aid.  I think the same is true in coaching, and many other areas of leadership. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I have a hard time seeing Satt as an elite OC right now.  That said, he has a tremendous amount of experience and with the right direction, he just might turn into what we all want.    

 

Where has he shown precedent for this happening in the recent past?  I think Rhule is the guy, but I a little dismayed at the eggs-in-basket choices on Sims and Satt.  Those were both his hand picks.

 

Now Dana is on the table.  I don't see Satt in the same league as him.  

 

And, with today's NCAA, DR isn't sticking around for three years of pudding sharpening iron-type development.  He wants to win and go pro.  Is Satt the way?

[gobiggergoredder]

4 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

So, you're good with a program like Nebraska being a stage for developing top coordinators?

 

To develop football players you need seasoned, proven coaches.  Satterfield isn't that.  

How about you answer the question before you start asking them? 

 

What would you have done?  What would you have done to fix HH, the third string QB's throwing motion and ability to read D's in 2 months?  What would have done to help Sims overcome one of the worst Turnover problems in modern football history?

[DefenderAO]

9 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

How about before you answer a question before I answer one? 

 

What would you have done?  What would you have done to fix HH, the third string QB's throwing motion and ability to read D's in 2 months?  What would have done to help Sims overcome one of the worst Turnover problems in modern football history?

1. Not hired Satterfield knowing he is average at his best.  Show me data that says otherwise.  And why would you use this platform to develop a coach?  

2.  Been extremely leery of all eggs in the Sims basket.  It made Thompson's release inevitable.  Sims has always been turnover prone.  The eyes that saw him as an NFL QB couldn't translate what they saw to results.  Sure, the player is responsible, but leaders are also culpable and should have multiple contingencies in place.

3.  Pulled Sims earlier in games and the year.  Accountability.

4.  Worked non stop with QB 2's decision making, reads, and mechanics.  This happened?  Then. where was the yield?

5.  Purdy got hurt at some point, but it's unclear how badly.  Towards the end of the season he's now starting. Was he GTG prior to that?  It ended up he. was the best in-game QB in the room.  

 

Satterfield isn't the guy.

 

Rhule even stated in his last coaching convention interview the season wasn't great.  But he's building it long term too.  I want it built through players like Dylan, and I see coaches like Satt as folks that cannot get teams or players to the next level.  

[gobiggergoredder]

Just now, DefenderAO said:

1. Not hired Satterfield knowing he is average at his best.  Show me data that says otherwise.  And why would you use this platform to develop a coach?  

2.  Been extremely leery of all eggs in the Sims basket.  It made Thompson's release inevitable.  Sims has always been turnover prone.  The eyes that saw him as an NFL QB couldn't translate what they saw to results.  Sure, the player is responsible, but leaders are also culpable and should have multiple contingencies in place.

3.  Pulled Sims earlier in games and the year.  Accountability.

4.  Worked non stop with QB 2's decision making, reads, and mechanics.  This happened?  Then. where was the yield?

5.  Purdy got hurt at some point, but it's unclear how badly.  Towards the end of the season he's now starting. Was he GTG prior to that?  It ended up he. was the best in-game QB in the room.  

 

Satterfield isn't the guy.

1. Good stuff.  He's already here, so this is ridiculous itself.  The context is what he should have done.

2.  Thompson made a choice.  But much like #1, this has nothing to do with Sims or HH performance.  It'd be neat if we could have seen a Thompson with no Palmer play out at Nebraska.  I have a hunch it'd be about the same result as HH.  Atleast HH could run.

3. Monday morning coaching.  He did get pulled.

4.  This is Gold.  Work Harder.  Write a book on this.

5.  He was going to have the surgery the week he started his first game.  The moved it because HH was hurt and there was almost no chance of putting Sims back in.  Being "the best" in the room is damn near pointless when considering the room.

 

They've recruited two elite QBs.  Picked up a multiple year starter Olineman, a RB and possibly two WR's (waiting on Banks).  Maybe give Satt more than 6 months before you decide how terrible he is?

[DefenderAO]

30 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

1. Good stuff.  He's already here, so this is ridiculous itself.  The context is what he should have done.

2.  Thompson made a choice.  But much like #1, this has nothing to do with Sims or HH performance.  It'd be neat if we could have seen a Thompson with no Palmer play out at Nebraska.  I have a hunch it'd be about the same result as HH.  Atleast HH could run.

3. Monday morning coaching.  He did get pulled.

4.  This is Gold.  Work Harder.  Write a book on this.

5.  He was going to have the surgery the week he started his first game.  The moved it because HH was hurt and there was almost no chance of putting Sims back in.  Being "the best" in the room is damn near pointless when considering the room.

 

They've recruited two elite QBs.  Picked up a multiple year starter Olineman, a RB and possibly two WR's (waiting on Banks).  Maybe give Satt more than 6 months before you decide how terrible he is?

1. Demote him or exit him.  Bring someone better.  Pudding doesn't sharpen iron.  NU is not a stage to develop a top coordinator position.  

2.  HH could certainly run and give the ball to the other team.  Sims did both of these better than HH and was a national standout at the latter.

3.  Pull him earlier.  It was clear he couldn't do it.

4.  Show results.  Let's see your developing OC's produce refined on-field results.  Or maybe that's just part of 900K Satterfield's blossoming path to success in D1.  

5.  EDIT: was on against Satterfield, but no player or coordinator should've been a surprise.  They were wildcards and risks, yes.  And Sims and Satt failed.  The former moves on...the latter gets more development and training I guess.

[Jason Sitoke]

1 hour ago, gobiggergoredder said:

The fact that you're basing Satt's performance/capability on the bold is a tell.   What would you have done?

 

You're the F100 leader.  You've got a guy that can't do a TPS report and another that is a loose cannon and makes lude comments.  One can't do his job and the other is a liability.  You're on a hiring freeze for 6 months and these are the only two employees that can do their job....barely.  Take us through it bossman.

 

Why can't he do a TPS report?  Did he not put on the cover sheet?  Did he even get the memo about the new TPS cover sheets?

[gobiggergoredder]

25 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said:

Why can't he do a TPS report?  Did he not put on the cover sheet?  Did he even get the memo about the new TPS cover sheets?

[Toe]

7 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

I’ve been as frustrated and unimpressed with this offense as anybody but I find it a little surprising that so many seem to be on the fire Satt wagon.

 

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[JJ Husker]

1 hour ago, Toe said:

 

You must be new around here. Welcome to HuskerBoard!

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[twofittyonred]

16 hours ago, DefenderAO said:

So, you're good with a program like Nebraska being a stage for developing top coordinators?

 

To develop football players you need seasoned, proven coaches.  Satterfield isn't that.  

Well......  Yes......!   Bringing Dana in as a cheap analyst and Glenn Thomas as QB coach and co-OC that covers all the bases for learning AND for further growth if Satt doesnt work out..  Why would you not want to develop the guys that you are already paying as opposed to canning them and STILL paying them..??  

[BigRedBuster]

1 hour ago, twofittyonred said:

Well......  Yes......!   Bringing Dana in as a cheap analyst and Glenn Thomas as QB coach and co-OC that covers all the bases for learning AND for further growth if Satt doesnt work out..  Why would you not want to develop the guys that you are already paying as opposed to canning them and STILL paying them..??  

Plus, you have continuity in your staff. Some fans think this is like playing a video game.  We need to keep improving our staff and players....while having as much continuity as possible.  That's how you build a good culture and foundation.  Having a new OC every year, does not do that.