zoogs Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Oh, to be clear, I wasn't really directing the tone of that post at you. More so at the announcers and that general line of thought in general. I am actually very much in the "the game's different now, players need to tone it down" camp (that you aren't in ). But Suh is just making his tackle with a little bit of harmless flair, something that makes it look kinda bad, but I don't think it is really. I don't think the play was over though. Suh got to him and could either push him forward (or should I say, "punch" ) or wrap up and tug him down, which is what he did. I think it was the smart choice to wrap up and not give your prey any chance of just slipping out of your grasp. And it's a safer choice than just bowling the guy over and crashing both into the ground as well. I agree that Suh needs to change a bit, just to avoid these flags. I think these flags are unnecessary though, and a disservice to the safety movement they purportedly represent. Osborne's completely legal takedown of Tannehill last year was far more vicious and endangering than this rather tame takedown. Of course I'm not familiar with the law of the game and the latest clauses they've added or changed. What rule is he blatantly breaking? "Do not sack quarterbacks" is the only one I can imagine. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm not arguing the tackle. Its just unnecessary. What about the Jake Delhomme one? This one reminded me of that one. 1 Quote Link to comment
Karsaire Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Haha I never took it personally. Damn emotionless blanket that is the interwebs 8) Just clarifying my thought. Theres a difference between spearing somebody in the neck and ending their career, and just flat out hitting somebody hard. I'm all about keeping people safe, but at what expense of taking the physicality out of a physical game? I agree though, that suh's tackle was in no way endagering the qb. I'm also not familiar with any specific rules, just refering to the "saftey movement" in general. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Dirty or clean, those kinds of hits by Suh are unwise in the current climate of the NFL. He knows this, and knows better. I appreciate ferociousness as much as the next guy, but you have to play within the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment
Axl_sued_me Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Suh has deep rooted issues with QB's and I think it goes way beyond football. 2 Quote Link to comment
GMoose Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 First impressions are the strongest! Quote Link to comment
redblooded Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 They'll keep fining him for those. Eventually he'll decide to start driving them to the ground with his shoulder and actually really hurt a QB. Then they'll be begging for whiplash inducing pushes or body-slams. Quote Link to comment
ironmike Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I got to see that in person last night...the Detroit crowd has embraced him fully. The boos at the ref for that call were deafening, especially for a preseason game. While the aggressive play has led to a few penalties, I think it has led to improvement by the whole Lions defense. They were flying to the ball. Granted, it was just the Bengals, but Suh is rubbing off on the rest of the team. They will be in the playoffs, if not this year, then soon. 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 It just looked bad because of his freakish strength. This happens all the time, but nary an issue is made because the QB or WR or RB usually doesn't flop like a ragdoll. Quote Link to comment
flatwaterfan Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I think this play was okay and didn't deserve a flag, however I think he is going down a slippery slope and is on the edge. Be careful what you wish for. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/lions/2011-08-11-ndamukong-suh-year-two_n.htm Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Why don't you suppose he did stuff like this at NU? It seems like something that's developed since he got to the league. The closest I could ever see was when he got flagged for "slamming the quarterback into the ground" against Baylor, but that was a much different kind of tackle. Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The ridiculousness of that being a penalty is why I don't watch the NFL anymore. Why don't they just get it over with and play 2 hand touch. 1 Quote Link to comment
redblooded Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Why don't you suppose he did stuff like this at NU? It seems like something that's developed since he got to the league. The closest I could ever see was when he got flagged for "slamming the quarterback into the ground" against Baylor, but that was a much different kind of tackle. He did, although quarterbacks were more mobile in college and had a lot more space around them to try and get away. This is the same type of tackle as Gabbert's monsoon game fumble or McCoy getting thrown 10 yards was. Its just that when Dalton tried to get away his other lineman was pushed into him (knocking his helmet off and pushing him back into Suh so he got wrapped up around the chest/shoulders instead of mid section... Quote Link to comment
redblooded Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The ridiculousness of that being a penalty is why I don't watch the NFL anymore. Why don't they just get it over with and play 2 hand touch. This, its not a game of gladiators anymore, its a game of a commissioner trying to protect a bunch of teams offensive "investments". 1 Quote Link to comment
okaive Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Damn Spartacus ruining it for all of us. Quote Link to comment
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