AgMarauder04 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Things I think after reading the last few posts. I think Manziel is the best player in the country. He should be the Heisman winner this year. Winston is nipping at his heels and if Florida St wins the ACC, it will be a tough call. Ndamukong Suh should have won the Heisman that year. The 3 candidates that finished ahead of him were great players but you could argue that they were not always the best player on the field in any given game. You can't say that about Suh. They argued that Nebraska's record hurt him. I argued that if your team is THAT GOOD, then it shows clearly how outstanding he was. If you've got a DL full of studs, then they're all gonna have great stats. AS it was, Suh was almost ALWAYS double teamed, and he still terrorized QBs Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Things I think after reading the last few posts. I think Manziel is the best player in the country. He should be the Heisman winner this year. Winston is nipping at his heels and if Florida St wins the ACC, it will be a tough call. Ndamukong Suh should have won the Heisman that year. The 3 candidates that finished ahead of him were great players but you could argue that they were not always the best player on the field in any given game. You can't say that about Suh. They argued that Nebraska's record hurt him. I argued that if your team is THAT GOOD, then it shows clearly how outstanding he was. If you've got a DL full of studs, then they're all gonna have great stats. AS it was, Suh was almost ALWAYS double teamed, and he still terrorized QBs It's funny how the voters use that against some players and not others. Look at Robert Griffin III, Baylor had 3 losses the year he won and they finished 3rd in their conference. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I will be totally shocked if Manziel wins another Heisman this year. He may be the "most outstanding player" but his off-field antics will drive away enough voters who don't want to the second dual winner to be a sophomore and especially one who's had his share of bad publicity. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Things I think after reading the last few posts. I think Manziel is the best player in the country. He should be the Heisman winner this year. Winston is nipping at his heels and if Florida St wins the ACC, it will be a tough call. Ndamukong Suh should have won the Heisman that year. The 3 candidates that finished ahead of him were great players but you could argue that they were not always the best player on the field in any given game. You can't say that about Suh. They argued that Nebraska's record hurt him. I argued that if your team is THAT GOOD, then it shows clearly how outstanding he was. If you've got a DL full of studs, then they're all gonna have great stats. AS it was, Suh was almost ALWAYS double teamed, and he still terrorized QBs It's funny how the voters use that against some players and not others. Look at Robert Griffin III, Baylor had 3 losses the year he won and they finished 3rd in their conference. But he was far and away the best candidate that season regardless of W-L records It's different this year with so many teams still undefeated or having 1 loss Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I will be totally shocked if Manziel wins another Heisman this year. He may be the "most outstanding player" but his off-field antics will drive away enough voters who don't want to the second dual winner to be a sophomore and especially one who's had his share of bad publicity. Not to mention the whole 'upstanding character' element that is SUPPOSED to be a pillar of the Heisman fraternity but that gets ignored by everybody. It is funny to see them occasionally discount win-loss records though - same thing happened with Tim Tebow. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Things I think after reading the last few posts. I think Manziel is the best player in the country. He should be the Heisman winner this year. Winston is nipping at his heels and if Florida St wins the ACC, it will be a tough call. Ndamukong Suh should have won the Heisman that year. The 3 candidates that finished ahead of him were great players but you could argue that they were not always the best player on the field in any given game. You can't say that about Suh. They argued that Nebraska's record hurt him. I argued that if your team is THAT GOOD, then it shows clearly how outstanding he was. If you've got a DL full of studs, then they're all gonna have great stats. AS it was, Suh was almost ALWAYS double teamed, and he still terrorized QBs It's funny how the voters use that against some players and not others. Look at Robert Griffin III, Baylor had 3 losses the year he won and they finished 3rd in their conference. But he was far and away the best candidate that season regardless of W-L records It's different this year with so many teams still undefeated or having 1 loss Suh was the best player that year far and away. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Will announce his decision about declaring for the NFL draft before aTm's bowl game. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Legendary Coach Thinks Johnny Manziel Is 'An Arrogant Little Prick' “I don’t like his antics," Switzer said. "I think he’s an arrogant little prick. I’ve said that and I’ll say it again. He’s a privileged kid, he’s embarrassed himself, he’s embarrassed his teammates, he’s embarrassed his coaches.” “For whatever his antics are, he’s the best that I’ve seen," Switzer said. "I have never seen a quarterback in college football… control of the game like he does and put up the numbers he does. It is fantastic what he’s done, against good competition. Game after game after game he puts numbers up that are staggering….. He’s the most dominant, most dynamic college quarterback I’ve ever seen in a long, long time.” Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Apparently JFF scored a 32 on his Wonderlic http://www.thepostga...ng-quarterbacks Other notable QBs: 40 Alex Smith 39 Eli Manning* 38 Colin Kaepernick 37 Andrew Luck 37 Tony Romo 35 Aaron Rodgers* 33 Tom Brady* 28 Peyton Manning* 28 Russell Wilson* 27 Joe Flacco* 25 Ben Roethlisberger* 24 Robert Griffin III * Super Bowl Champion Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Johnny Manziel Is So Damn Obnoxious You Should Love Him Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I don't know whom the Browns are trying to impress. He texted us mid-draft, 'I wish you guys would come and get me. I want to wreck this league together.' That was so awesome I forwarded it to the owner right away and he thought it was so awesome he immediately said, 'Hold the presses. We're trading up to get him.' - Browns QB coach And its predecessor, I saw a homeless guy a few days before the draft and he said, 'Draft Manziel.' So that's when I knew. - Browns GM Also, I love that this paragraph exists: More likely, the reproachful trio is reacting to Manziel's past pattern of behavior, which is kind of like a rich dude winning over Miley Cyrus with a romantic love sonnet, only to give a salty speech at their wedding decrying his bride as a "mirror-kissing heathen." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350605/article/cleveland-browns-must-let-johnny-manziel-be-johnny-manziel Quote Link to comment
mrandyk Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The Browns sure know a bust when they see it. The GM taking advice from homeless men does explain a lot. This guy will be an absolute cancer in the clubhouse, and dropping so far in the draft probably means most NFL teams suspect the same thing. He'll pull a Vince Young and be gone in 5 years. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The GM taking advice from homeless men does explain a lot. This is all you need to know about the Browns organization. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He'll pull a Vince Young and be gone in 5 years. I wouldn't count on it. I think he's going to be around for awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 He'll pull a Vince Young and be gone in 5 years. I wouldn't count on it. I think he's going to be around for awhile. Yeah, that clip board isn't going to hold itself Quote Link to comment
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