Popular Post NUpolo8 Posted January 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2014 Saw this kickin around and thought it might be fun here. Now, Bo Pelini and Nebraska finished off with a bowl win, and that's a good thing, and of course the #9wins mantra kicked into full froth again as a sign of improvement, steadiness, and something to build for towards the future. So admittedly, I hate the 9 wins argument, and it's been discussed to death here, be it a good or bad thing. So, let's just look at how Bo gets his 9/10 wins a year. Bo Pelini vs BCS opponents according to wins. 13+ game winners: 0-2 12+ game winners: 0-6 11+ game winners: 2-10 10+ game winners: 4-14 9 + game winners: 5-17 8 + game winners: 13-20 7 + game winners: 21-22 6 + game winners: 24-23 Avg point margin against BCS opponents. 13 Wins: -7ppg 12 Wins: -19ppg 11 Wins: -8.5 10 Wins: -7.6ppg 9 Wins: -6.75ppg 8 Wins: 2.3ppg 7 Wins: 9.8ppg 6 Wins: 10.5ppg If you consider 9 wins Nebraska's standard, Nu currently has a .227 winning percentage against their peers. And holy crap the point differential. Ultimately, I think most people would like those stats to improve. This seems to show a heavy reliance on beating some pretty poor teams to salvage a "benchmark" season. Something many NU fans used to mock schools like KState for. 19 Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Saw this kickin around and thought it might be fun here. Now, Bo Pelini and Nebraska finished off with a bowl win, and that's a good thing, and of course the #9wins mantra kicked into full froth again as a sign of improvement, steadiness, and something to build for towards the future. So admittedly, I hate the 9 wins argument, and it's been discussed to death here, be it a good or bad thing. So, let's just look at how Bo gets his 9/10 wins a year. Bo Pelini vs BCS opponents according to wins. 13+ game winners: 0-2 12+ game winners: 0-6 11+ game winners: 2-10 10+ game winners: 4-14 9 + game winners: 5-17 8 + game winners: 13-20 7 + game winners: 21-22 6 + game winners: 24-23 Avg point margin against BCS opponents. 13 Wins: -7ppg 12 Wins: -19ppg 11 Wins: -8.5 10 Wins: -7.6ppg 9 Wins: -6.75ppg 8 Wins: 2.3ppg 7 Wins: 9.8ppg 6 Wins: 10.5ppg If you consider 9 wins Nebraska's standard, Nu currently has a .227 winning percentage against their peers. And holy crap the point differential. Ultimately, I think most people would like those stats to improve. This seems to show a heavy reliance on beating some pretty poor teams to salvage a "benchmark" season. Something many NU fans used to mock schools like KState for. Pretty sure your losses totals are way off. Not sure how it is possible to lose 114 games in 6 seasons. 2 Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Saw this kickin around and thought it might be fun here. Now, Bo Pelini and Nebraska finished off with a bowl win, and that's a good thing, and of course the #9wins mantra kicked into full froth again as a sign of improvement, steadiness, and something to build for towards the future. So admittedly, I hate the 9 wins argument, and it's been discussed to death here, be it a good or bad thing. So, let's just look at how Bo gets his 9/10 wins a year. Bo Pelini vs BCS opponents according to wins. 13+ game winners: 0-2 12+ game winners: 0-6 11+ game winners: 2-10 10+ game winners: 4-14 9 + game winners: 5-17 8 + game winners: 13-20 7 + game winners: 21-22 6 + game winners: 24-23 Avg point margin against BCS opponents. 13 Wins: -7ppg 12 Wins: -19ppg 11 Wins: -8.5 10 Wins: -7.6ppg 9 Wins: -6.75ppg 8 Wins: 2.3ppg 7 Wins: 9.8ppg 6 Wins: 10.5ppg If you consider 9 wins Nebraska's standard, Nu currently has a .227 winning percentage against their peers. And holy crap the point differential. Ultimately, I think most people would like those stats to improve. This seems to show a heavy reliance on beating some pretty poor teams to salvage a "benchmark" season. Something many NU fans used to mock schools like KState for. Pretty sure your losses totals are way off. Not sure how it is possible to lose 114 games in 6 seasons. Crap, that's really muddled. I'm assuming this stat means a 13 win team also won 6, 7, 8 etc.... Quote Link to comment
JTrain Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The plus indicates "or more". 6+ indicates all teams that won 6 or more games. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The plus indicates "or more". 6+ indicates all teams that won 6 or more games. that is what i thought. so still pretty telling. i would like to see the stats without the +. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'm a fan who appreciates the 9+ wins per season that Pelini has accomplished. Do I consider it some sort of "standard" or "benchmark"? Not necessarily. I do believe this much......we will not fire a 9 win coach again anytime soon. So Pelini's 9 wins offers job security. The strength of schedule stuff goes back a long time......before Pelini to the days of the Big 8, or Big 2 and Little 6. The one place I will give Pelini credit, regardless of any asterisks for schedule or anything else is this. If winning consistently like Pelini has done....in this case the number 9......were no big deal, the list of coaches who have accomplished it would be longer. 3 Quote Link to comment
I am I Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yeah nine wins against the crap of our sched doesn't look so good but, nine wins would look amazing if we had only won 5-7 games a year every 3-5 yrs. plus it's not easy to win any games. You have to play them and you have to win. There would 10-12 teams who've done it more the last 6 yrs if it were easy, not 3 Quote Link to comment
I am I Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Bob stoops hasn't done it Les miles, urban Meyer, jimbo fisher, bill Snyder, mark richt, mike Grundy haven't either. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Bob stoops hasn't done itLes miles, urban Meyer, jimbo fisher, bill Snyder, mark richt, mike Grundy haven't either. Is this to infer that Bo is a better coach than any of those? Because that is flipping laughable. 4 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Only including BCS competition: vs. 13-win teams: 0-2, -7.0 ppg vs. 12-win teams: 0-4, -19.0 ppg vs. 11-win teams: 2-4, -8.5 ppg vs. 10-win teams: 2-4, -7.7 ppg vs. 9-win teams: 1-3, -6.8 ppg vs. 8-win teams: 8-3, +0.6 ppg vs. 7-win teams: 8-2, +9.8 ppg vs. 6-win teams: 4-1, +19.4 ppg vs. everyone else: 18-2, +14.2 ppg 5 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Again only BCS: vs. Teams with more wins: 2-13, -13.4 ppg vs. Teams with same wins: 3-1, +4.3 ppg vs. Teams with fewer wins: 34-10, +9.3 ppg 4 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 While this is an interesting discussion, those stats don't mean much without a basis for comparison. For instance, how did Ohio St., Michigan, Oklahoma, or whoever you'd consider our "peers" do? That's too much time for me right now, but it'd be fascinating to see if someone did it. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 While this is an interesting discussion, those stats don't mean much without a basis for comparison. For instance, how did Ohio St., Michigan, Oklahoma, or whoever you'd consider our "peers" do? That's too much time for me right now, but it'd be fascinating to see if someone did it. That was my first thought. I want to see their records against teams with 9+ wins. Also, if he's 0-8 against teams who've won 12+ games, then he's 2-2 against teams who've won 11 games, 4-4 against teams who've won 10 games, and 5-3 against teams who've won 9 games. So he's 11-9 against teams with 9, 10, or 11 wins. 1 Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Bob stoops hasn't done itLes miles, urban Meyer, jimbo fisher, bill Snyder, mark richt, mike Grundy haven't either. Is this to infer that Bo is a better coach than any of those? Because that is flipping laughable. Hes beaten Snyder (2-0), Richt (1-1) and Gundy (1-0)... 1 Quote Link to comment
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