Timotheus Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm just watching the spring game now. Couple things: Can't wait to go to my first game this fall! Tommy Armstrong looks awful. System or no system, I hope the staff doesn't feel an allegiance to him. He doesn't look like a quarterback I agree. I don't understand why the experience factor would play to TA's odds of being the starter this fall. If anything, with his experience he should have been far ahead of all the other QBs yesterday. Instead, after starting over 20 games, he looked like the 3rd best QB out there, and I don't see much upside for him. ^This TA should have been the stud of spring ball with the experience factor that he has. Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Darlington Armstrong Stanton Brockmeier Fyfe Bush What exactly did you see out of Stanton to put him 3rd? He is a very very distant 5/6 right now. Not only could he not hit the broad side of a barn in the Spring Game, the fact that he was the 5th QB off of the bench to play in the game should tell you volumes about his level of accuracy/play in the other 14 spring practices. IMO I think he will transfer as the writing is on the wall for him.I was just not impressed with Bush at all and Fyfe is decent at best. I dont know, something about Stantons field presence. Honestly he has a long way to go but I still think he could move up the ranks after watching him yesterday. He was off on alot of passes, but the motion and the throws were there.Fair enough, I don't agree with you, but I see where you are coming from. I saw Bush as clearly being a bit better with a TON more upside than Stanton. bush had some bad throws, but he also made some really nice ones as well, including one he threw just over the receiver's shoulder right in stride. Stanton missed pretty much everything, including several wide open WRs. He consistently overthrew every WR by a fair bit. 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 With bush I felt like I knew what he was doing before every snap. Stanton definitely needs to calm down some though. 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 The two Freshmen were miles ahead of Stanton, it seemed. Pretty clear Armstrong, Bush, and Darlington are your top 3. Quote Link to comment
Army_Allen Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Darlington Armstrong Stanton Brockmeier Fyfe Bush What exactly did you see out of Stanton to put him 3rd? He is a very very distant 5/6 right now. Not only could he not hit the broad side of a barn in the Spring Game, the fact that he was the 5th QB off of the bench to play in the game should tell you volumes about his level of accuracy/play in the other 14 spring practices. IMO I think he will transfer as the writing is on the wall for him.I was just not impressed with Bush at all and Fyfe is decent at best. I dont know, something about Stantons field presence. Honestly he has a long way to go but I still think he could move up the ranks after watching him yesterday. He was off on alot of passes, but the motion and the throws were there.Fair enough, I don't agree with you, but I see where you are coming from. I saw Bush as clearly being a bit better with a TON more upside than Stanton. bush had some bad throws, but he also made some really nice ones as well, including one he threw just over the receiver's shoulder right in stride. Stanton missed pretty much everything, including several wide open WRs. He consistently overthrew every WR by a fair bit.Stanton was also having to throw to guys not nearly as quick as guys like turner and DPE which is tough to change timing if you're used to fast guys getting to balls then a wr with the number 44 ends up being the guy to go after them you can't expect the timing to be there. He hit his short routes really well tbh and ran well too. His spiral looked the best ot second best out of the qbs as well. 2 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Darlington Armstrong Stanton Brockmeier Fyfe Bush What exactly did you see out of Stanton to put him 3rd? He is a very very distant 5/6 right now. Not only could he not hit the broad side of a barn in the Spring Game, the fact that he was the 5th QB off of the bench to play in the game should tell you volumes about his level of accuracy/play in the other 14 spring practices. IMO I think he will transfer as the writing is on the wall for him.I was just not impressed with Bush at all and Fyfe is decent at best. I dont know, something about Stantons field presence. Honestly he has a long way to go but I still think he could move up the ranks after watching him yesterday. He was off on alot of passes, but the motion and the throws were there.Fair enough, I don't agree with you, but I see where you are coming from. I saw Bush as clearly being a bit better with a TON more upside than Stanton. bush had some bad throws, but he also made some really nice ones as well, including one he threw just over the receiver's shoulder right in stride. Stanton missed pretty much everything, including several wide open WRs. He consistently overthrew every WR by a fair bit.Stanton was also having to throw to guys not nearly as quick as guys like turner and DPE which is tough to change timing if you're used to fast guys getting to balls then a wr with the number 44 ends up being the guy to go after them you can't expect the timing to be there. He hit his short routes really well tbh and ran well too. His spiral looked the best ot second best out of the qbs as well. That would be a better argument if Stanton was just barely overthrowing guys, but he wasn't even close on some of those throws. And he missed completely wide-open receivers. It's nice that he throws a spiral, but that won't help us win any games or convert any first downs. In short, he had a terrible day passing. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Personally feel Stantons accuracy could improve easier than Bush telegraphing the play. Quote Link to comment
Husker from Kansas Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 A lot of Stanton's issues with accuracy can be fixed by improving his mechanics. His footwork, and his throwing motion can be fixed. He seen the open guys, he just needs to refine his skills. Quote Link to comment
BellyOption Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 So...am I to assume nobody is concerned about head injuries with Darlington anymore?I know he doesn't stutter and has been cleared by some of the best doctors around regarding head traumaHope they are right. I would love for the kid to have a great career here but, it's not worth potentially having major problems the rest of his life. Best of luck to him. Agree. My concern is with his safety.Absolutely. I mean, it's obvious he wants to play. But major head injuries are serious serious business. I'd seek opinions from doctors that aren't in any way affiliated with the school just in case, but if every doctor says he's no more at risk than any other player? I'd start him. I'm confident that it's only the history of head injuries that's holding him back.Dr. Semyon Slobounov, a director of virtual reality/traumatic brain injury research laboratory at Penn State, is overseeing Darlington's recovery, as is central Florida-based Dr. James M. Ray NU has one of the best brain trauma centers in the country and it's right there on campus. In addition to those specialists, I would imagine the NU center is well aware of his progress. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It was good to actually see some of the other guys. I don't think my personal preference is the same as what the coaches see right now so here's what I think the coaches have right now: Armstrong - Still getting the benefit of the doubt but they are looking hard for someone take the job (which could be TA as well) Bush - Didn't look good in the Spring Game but has the arm and the build to be the guy. Darlington - Really coming on strong the last couple weeks. Lacks the arm strength of the first two but his accuracy and decision making are better. Closing fast. Those three are the three the coaches have been looking for to trim their list - and, thus, who'll get the reps when fall camp starts. Stanton - will be shocked if he doesn't transfer Fyfe - might want to stick it out but would think he'd at least look for a chance at a smaller school 1 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 “ Armstrong likely needs not worry about a serious challenge to his position as the No. 1 quarterback.”Mitch Sherman ESPN.com Mitch Sherman used to know quite a bit about Husker football...but now he knows less than most people on this board about Husker football. I trust his opinion as far as I can throw a piano. He's a former OWH reporter with masterful connections and sources locally, as well as access to team practices (which he attends). He's also a B1G/college football reporter for ESPN and covers Nebraska literally every week during the college football season. What more exactly do you need from him to prove his legitimacy? I trust him more than half the people who cover the program for any number of local media outlets. 1 Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can't help but feel the health considerations are going to keep Darlington away from serious contention this year, as good as he looks. Otherwise, I feel Tommy should have a battle on his hands in fall camp. AJ seems very talented, but not ready. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm just watching the spring game now. Couple things: Can't wait to go to my first game this fall! Tommy Armstrong looks awful. System or no system, I hope the staff doesn't feel an allegiance to him. He doesn't look like a quarterback I agree. I don't understand why the experience factor would play to TA's odds of being the starter this fall. If anything, with his experience he should have been far ahead of all the other QBs yesterday. Instead, after starting over 20 games, he looked like the 3rd best QB out there, and I don't see much upside for him. Because experience is the difference between throwing an interception on 3rd and 3, against a real team with the game on the line, or making a play with your feet/finding a more open receiver. I would've thought experience and it's usefulness would have been a bit obvious? I stand corrected. While his numbers may not have jumped off the page, he led three scoring drives - more than any other QB Saturday. If they were ALL freshman learning to play at the college level for the first time then I'd be more open to the suggestion that he's the third best quarterback. But you have to think about this all reasonably and logically - it's going to take significant evidence for someone to supplant TA. I'm not saying that won't happen, because it certainly could. But, it is equally as foolish to discount experience as it is to discount a back up. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Darlington Armstrong Stanton Brockmeier Fyfe Bush What exactly did you see out of Stanton to put him 3rd? He is a very very distant 5/6 right now. Not only could he not hit the broad side of a barn in the Spring Game, the fact that he was the 5th QB off of the bench to play in the game should tell you volumes about his level of accuracy/play in the other 14 spring practices. IMO I think he will transfer as the writing is on the wall for him.I was just not impressed with Bush at all and Fyfe is decent at best. I dont know, something about Stantons field presence. Honestly he has a long way to go but I still think he could move up the ranks after watching him yesterday. He was off on alot of passes, but the motion and the throws were there.Fair enough, I don't agree with you, but I see where you are coming from. I saw Bush as clearly being a bit better with a TON more upside than Stanton. bush had some bad throws, but he also made some really nice ones as well, including one he threw just over the receiver's shoulder right in stride. Stanton missed pretty much everything, including several wide open WRs. He consistently overthrew every WR by a fair bit.Stanton was also having to throw to guys not nearly as quick as guys like turner and DPE which is tough to change timing if you're used to fast guys getting to balls then a wr with the number 44 ends up being the guy to go after them you can't expect the timing to be there. He hit his short routes really well tbh and ran well too. His spiral looked the best ot second best out of the qbs as well.As the 5th string QB, he's probably not seeing much time with DPE and Turner, right? I think his lack of accuracy probably has more to do with his lack of accuracy. Quote Link to comment
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