ScottyIce Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 How does the 3 over sign rule work mav? I thought if you over sign by 3 you had until the following school year to make room. I think it's until June but it might be the next school year. So technically we could sign 18 this class as it stands but would then have to process 3 underclassmen by June or august? I'm fairly sure it's June when the incoming freshmen start to show up. But yes, right now we would be allowed to sign 18. They would have to leave the program for whatever reason. They can't be forced out but there are usually 3-4 that leave for some reason - transfer, graduate (don't return for a fifth year), etc. - just like we saw this year. I think right now, we can sign15. That includes the over sign. I think we will end 16-18 though. No. The 15 does not include the oversign. 15 would put us at 85. Who are the 15 seniors on scholly? I count 12. Yes, but we're only at 82 scholarships right now. Do you have a chart handy somewhere that shows this? If so, it might be worthwhile to put a sticky at the top of this forum that keeps track of who is on scholarship by year. That way we can all be on the same page when it comes to numbers. If not, I could try to throw something together Here's my spreadsheet. I'll add it to my recruiting target posts so it hangs around. You've already decided who is redshirting and who is not? Pretty sure the years for every player is off. No. I leave them in that column until they play then I move them over. The first sheet is the 2018 chart since that is when the 2018 guys will be filling the roster. If you want to see this year's chart, click on 2017 at the bottom. Got it. Didn't see the different pages. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 How does the 3 over sign rule work mav? I thought if you over sign by 3 you had until the following school year to make room. I think it's until June but it might be the next school year. So technically we could sign 18 this class as it stands but would then have to process 3 underclassmen by June or august? I'm fairly sure it's June when the incoming freshmen start to show up. But yes, right now we would be allowed to sign 18. They would have to leave the program for whatever reason. They can't be forced out but there are usually 3-4 that leave for some reason - transfer, graduate (don't return for a fifth year), etc. - just like we saw this year. I think right now, we can sign15. That includes the over sign. I think we will end 16-18 though. No. The 15 does not include the oversign. 15 would put us at 85. Who are the 15 seniors on scholly? I count 12. Yes, but we're only at 82 scholarships right now. Do you have a chart handy somewhere that shows this? If so, it might be worthwhile to put a sticky at the top of this forum that keeps track of who is on scholarship by year. That way we can all be on the same page when it comes to numbers. If not, I could try to throw something together Here's my spreadsheet. I'll add it to my recruiting target posts so it hangs around. 1 Quote Link to comment
NM11046 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Thanks for all you do Mav - we are lucky to have you! 2 Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 espn updated ranks Allen - 4*, #24 WR, #167 overall Fuller - 4*, #18 ATH, #174 overall Bookie - 4*, #20 ATH, #187 overall Jurgens - 4*, #4 TE, #230 overall Farniok - 3*, #6 C Wildeman - 3*, #45 DE Mapieu - 3*, #40 DT http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/158/class/2018 2 Quote Link to comment
seaofred92 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Riley said on Sirius XM's "The First Team" this morning that we got 5 commitments at the spring game fwiw Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Riley said on Sirius XM's "The First Team" this morning that we got 5 commitments at the spring game fwiw He said something last night to the extent that he expected another public commitment "within 24 hours". Quote Link to comment
spurs1990 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Riley said on Sirius XM's "The First Team" this morning that we got 5 commitments at the spring game fwiw He said something last night to the extent that he expected another public commitment "within 24 hours". Was it indeed going to be a public commit? Hopefully not another one who is just silently committing to him personally. Quote Link to comment
I AM FOOT FOOT Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 espn updated ranks Allen - 4*, #24 WR, #167 overall Fuller - 4*, #18 ATH, #174 overall Bookie - 4*, #20 ATH, #187 overall Jurgens - 4*, #4 TE, #230 overall Farniok - 3*, #6 C Wildeman - 3*, #45 DE Mapieu - 3*, #40 DT http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/158/class/2018 wow Bookie dropped.no worries this kid has the tools to blow up even more his Sr year Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Don't think we need a QB this cycle if we can get Grant Gunnell in the fold somehow Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 How does the 3 over sign rule work mav? I thought if you over sign by 3 you had until the following school year to make room. I think it's until June but it might be the next school year. So technically we could sign 18 this class as it stands but would then have to process 3 underclassmen by June or august? I'm fairly sure it's June when the incoming freshmen start to show up. But yes, right now we would be allowed to sign 18. They would have to leave the program for whatever reason. They can't be forced out but there are usually 3-4 that leave for some reason - transfer, graduate (don't return for a fifth year), etc. - just like we saw this year. I think right now, we can sign15. That includes the over sign. I think we will end 16-18 though. No. The 15 does not include the oversign. 15 would put us at 85. Who are the 15 seniors on scholly? I count 12. Yes, but we're only at 82 scholarships right now. Do you have a chart handy somewhere that shows this? If so, it might be worthwhile to put a sticky at the top of this forum that keeps track of who is on scholarship by year. That way we can all be on the same page when it comes to numbers. If not, I could try to throw something together Here's my spreadsheet. I'll add it to my recruiting target posts so it hangs around. I'm confused on something. I didn't look at all the players. But, you have Lamar Jackson as a Junior. Didn't he sign in the 2016 class and play as a true freshman last year? So, this next year, wouldn't he be a sophomore instead of a junior? Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 So we are at 82. Let's pretend we don't land any grad transfers or any new recruits for this season. Tyler Hoppes is going to get a scholly for this season. Luke McNitt might if he is going to be the starting FB. They are both Seniors, and would put us at 84. Reimers is getting a scholarship, you can bet your bottom on it. He is a junior, and would put us at 85 for the season. His wouldn't come off the books, unless we were to only offer him a 1 year scholly, which I would doubt considering he is going to play quite a bit. This means we would have 14 open scholarships without attrition, and we could sign up to 17... Which Riley didn't do last season. Now, looking at possible attrition, since that's what some are hoping so we can sign 20. (Not sure how you can predict guys that might leave, but I'll try) We would need 3 to leave, just to be able to get to 20. Also, those 3 would have to either leave during or before the season, or well before NSD, so that we could actual sign a player for their scholarship. Sedrick King? Possibly a Grad Transfer if he doesn't get much PT this year. Not sure on his graduation requirements to be able to do so, just would assume he is close. Jalen Barnett? Possibly Transfer, hasn't gotten any opportunities for whatever reason it is. MIkale Wilbon? Grad Transfer possibly if he doesn't get a fair shake this season? I feel like I'm really reaching with those predictions. I'm sure we will have some sort of attrition, just not sure who and not sure if it will amount to 3 players or not. Time will tell. I can tell you for a fact that we will sign between 15-20 players though. Pure speculation of candidates for leaving but here's my list of possibilities: Brokop: The coaches are ready to show him the door. King: Agree with you. Could look for bigger role. Darlington: Loves the program. But I wondering if he'd grad transfer to see the field at a lessor school? Avery Anderson: Just can't seem to gain ground anywhere. 3rd string now and Blades, Bookie, etc are joining the fold during the remainder of his time here. Decker: He's a good player and I hope it's not the case but he has some health problems that could be a wildcard in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 How does the 3 over sign rule work mav? I thought if you over sign by 3 you had until the following school year to make room. I think it's until June but it might be the next school year. So technically we could sign 18 this class as it stands but would then have to process 3 underclassmen by June or august? I'm fairly sure it's June when the incoming freshmen start to show up. But yes, right now we would be allowed to sign 18. They would have to leave the program for whatever reason. They can't be forced out but there are usually 3-4 that leave for some reason - transfer, graduate (don't return for a fifth year), etc. - just like we saw this year. I think right now, we can sign15. That includes the over sign. I think we will end 16-18 though. No. The 15 does not include the oversign. 15 would put us at 85. Who are the 15 seniors on scholly? I count 12. Yes, but we're only at 82 scholarships right now. Do you have a chart handy somewhere that shows this? If so, it might be worthwhile to put a sticky at the top of this forum that keeps track of who is on scholarship by year. That way we can all be on the same page when it comes to numbers. If not, I could try to throw something together Here's my spreadsheet. I'll add it to my recruiting target posts so it hangs around. I'm confused on something. I didn't look at all the players. But, you have Lamar Jackson as a Junior. Didn't he sign in the 2016 class and play as a true freshman last year? So, this next year, wouldn't he be a sophomore instead of a junior?Sorry if I'm wrong Mav, but I believe the 2018 tab calculates counting the 2018 class as Fr....so it'd actually be Lamar's class next season, not this coming one. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 How does the 3 over sign rule work mav? I thought if you over sign by 3 you had until the following school year to make room. I think it's until June but it might be the next school year. So technically we could sign 18 this class as it stands but would then have to process 3 underclassmen by June or august? I'm fairly sure it's June when the incoming freshmen start to show up. But yes, right now we would be allowed to sign 18. They would have to leave the program for whatever reason. They can't be forced out but there are usually 3-4 that leave for some reason - transfer, graduate (don't return for a fifth year), etc. - just like we saw this year. I think right now, we can sign15. That includes the over sign. I think we will end 16-18 though. No. The 15 does not include the oversign. 15 would put us at 85. Who are the 15 seniors on scholly? I count 12. Yes, but we're only at 82 scholarships right now. Do you have a chart handy somewhere that shows this? If so, it might be worthwhile to put a sticky at the top of this forum that keeps track of who is on scholarship by year. That way we can all be on the same page when it comes to numbers. If not, I could try to throw something together Here's my spreadsheet. I'll add it to my recruiting target posts so it hangs around. I'm confused on something. I didn't look at all the players. But, you have Lamar Jackson as a Junior. Didn't he sign in the 2016 class and play as a true freshman last year? So, this next year, wouldn't he be a sophomore instead of a junior?Sorry if I'm wrong Mav, but I believe the 2018 tab calculates counting the 2018 class as Fr....so it'd actually be Lamar's class next season, not this coming one. Yes. If you want to see the roster for this year, click on the 2017 tab at the bottom. The tab that comes up when you open the sheet is for 2018. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Ahhh...thought time was flying too fast. Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 So we are at 82. Let's pretend we don't land any grad transfers or any new recruits for this season. Tyler Hoppes is going to get a scholly for this season. Luke McNitt might if he is going to be the starting FB. They are both Seniors, and would put us at 84. Reimers is getting a scholarship, you can bet your bottom on it. He is a junior, and would put us at 85 for the season. His wouldn't come off the books, unless we were to only offer him a 1 year scholly, which I would doubt considering he is going to play quite a bit. This means we would have 14 open scholarships without attrition, and we could sign up to 17... Which Riley didn't do last season. Now, looking at possible attrition, since that's what some are hoping so we can sign 20. (Not sure how you can predict guys that might leave, but I'll try) We would need 3 to leave, just to be able to get to 20. Also, those 3 would have to either leave during or before the season, or well before NSD, so that we could actual sign a player for their scholarship. Sedrick King? Possibly a Grad Transfer if he doesn't get much PT this year. Not sure on his graduation requirements to be able to do so, just would assume he is close. Jalen Barnett? Possibly Transfer, hasn't gotten any opportunities for whatever reason it is. MIkale Wilbon? Grad Transfer possibly if he doesn't get a fair shake this season? I feel like I'm really reaching with those predictions. I'm sure we will have some sort of attrition, just not sure who and not sure if it will amount to 3 players or not. Time will tell. I can tell you for a fact that we will sign between 15-20 players though. Pure speculation of candidates for leaving but here's my list of possibilities: Brokop: The coaches are ready to show him the door. King: Agree with you. Could look for bigger role. Darlington: Loves the program. But I wondering if he'd grad transfer to see the field at a lessor school? Avery Anderson: Just can't seem to gain ground anywhere. 3rd string now and Blades, Bookie, etc are joining the fold during the remainder of his time here. Decker: He's a good player and I hope it's not the case but he has some health problems that could be a wildcard in his career. Whats going on with Brokop? Quote Link to comment
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