Trump Legal Troubles

[Scarlet]

5 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

You aren't wrong. Read the posts of certain Trump voters on this board.

 

It's a constant battle of trying to reconcile voting for a guy who will go down in history as a baffonish bad guy. The only way they can reconcile with themselves is trying to blame the other side for voting for the same things they voted for.

 

Fortunately I am not burdened by voting for grifting, America hating morons. Thanks Trump voters, you guys have made the GOP a historical embarrassment, which is no easy feat. 

Giving away our most critical national security secrets like stealth and payload capabilities of our nuclear subs is one thing but if he owns the libs, RINOs, globalists, or anyone else who may have hurt his tender feels then he's who I want to lead our county into the abyss.   

[teachercd]

If I were a betting man (Oh, I am) I would wager (and I will) that Trump ends up with less than 46 million votes.  

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

[TGHusker]

Loose Lips Trump at it again.  The guy needs to be locked up.  

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=103760456

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Months after leaving the White House, former President Donald Trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about U.S. nuclear submarines with a member of his Mar-a-Lago Club -- an Australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The potential disclosure was reported to special counsel Jack Smith's team as they investigated Trump's alleged hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the sources told ABC News. The information could shed further light on Trump's handling of sensitive government secrets.

Prosecutors and FBI agents have at least twice this year interviewed the Mar-a-Lago member, Anthony Pratt, who runs U.S.-based Pratt Industries, one of the world's largest packaging companies.

In those interviews, Pratt described how -- looking to make conversation with Trump during a meeting at Mar-a-Lago in April 2021 -- he brought up the American submarine fleet, which the two had discussed before, the sources told ABC News.

According to Pratt's account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

In emails and conversations after meeting with Trump, Pratt described Trump's remarks to at least 45 others, including six journalists, 11 of his company's employees, 10 Australian officials, and three former Australian prime ministers, the sources told ABC News.

While Pratt told investigators he couldn’t tell if what Trump said about U.S. submarines was real or just bluster, investigators nevertheless asked Pratt not to repeat the numbers that Trump allegedly told him, suggesting the information could be too sensitive to relay further, ABC News was told.

It's unclear if the information was accurate, but the episode was investigated by Smith's team.

Sources said another witness, one of Trump's former employees at Mar-a-Lago, told investigators that, within minutes of Pratt's meeting with Trump, he heard Pratt relaying to someone else some of what Trump had just said.

According to the sources, the former Mar-a-Lago employee also told investigators he was "bothered" and "shocked" to hear that the former president had provided such seemingly sensitive information to a non-U.S. citizen.

Pratt told investigators Trump didn't show him any government documents during their April 2021 meeting, nor at any other time they crossed paths at Mar-a-Lago, sources said.

According to the sources, Pratt insisted to investigators that he told others about his meeting with Trump to show them how he was advocating for Australia with the United States. Some of the Australian officials that sources said he told were, as reflected in news reports at the time, involved in then-ongoing negotiations with the Biden administration over a deal for Australia to purchase a number of nuclear-powered attack submarines from the United States.

The deal was ultimately secured earlier this year, with Australia agreeing to purchase at least three Virginia-class nuclear-powered submarines, though President Joe Biden has said that none of the submarines sold to Australia will be armed with nuclear weapons.

 

 

[TGHusker]

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

 

What kind of people think like this?  This is Trump's spokesperson from the above article.  What a cult. 
 

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Given that President Trump is required to sit for deposition in a civil matter on Columbus Day, when he is scheduled to be in the Great State of New Hampshire, and while the President is fighting against the meritless claims that have been lodged against him in New York, Washington D.C., Florida, and Georgia, as well as continuing his winning campaign, where he is leading the Republicans by 60 points and Crooked Joe Biden by 11 points, to serve as our next President of the United States, President Trump has decided to temporarily pause his meritorious claims against Michael Cohen. Once President Trump has prevailed in dealing with the witch hunts against him, he will continue to pursue his claims against Michael Cohen, who rightfully deserves to, and will be held accountable for his unlawful words and actions just as the Southern District of New York held him accountable for numerous non - Trump related acts and crimes, making Cohen a very "proud" felon.

 

Cohen's reply-- he knows Trump. 

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Great news out of the Southern District of Florida tonight: Rather than be deposed by Danya Perry on Monday, Donald J. Trump voluntarily dismissed his $500 million lawsuit against our client Michael Cohen. From: Michael Cohen: As I have said from the beginning: this case was nothing more than a retaliatory intimidation tactic, and his attempt to hide from routine discovery procedures confirms as much. Mr. Trump's cowardly dismissal spells the end of this latest attempt to deter me from providing truthful testimony against him. My legal team and I now look forward to turning our full attention to holding Mr. Trump accountable for his latest abuse of the legal system. More to come.

 

[RedDenver]

19 hours ago, ZRod said:

Unless the DA is going to do some extremely indepth accounting forensics and trips to foreign islands this isn't going to mean diddly squat. The LLCs will double back on themselves and lead to 2nd, 3rd , 4th, and 5th LLCs with P.O. box addresses in some strip malls or the Caman Islands. But then again Trump's circle are kind of idiots so maybe somebody used their own address one time.

It's more about forcing Trump to officially write down the companies. Then he can be charged for lying to the court if he leaves anything off the list. A DA doesn't have to find all the companies Trump lied about, they just charge him for the ones they discover that he leaves out. Puts Trump and his team in the position to try to decide which ones to write down vs lie about.

[TGHusker]

 

Cooking   the books

 

 

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/former-trump-finance-chief-in-testimony-says-penthouse-assets-were-overvalued-7cedc1a0

 

 

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The Trump Organization’s longtime finance chief Allen Weisselberg took the witness stand Tuesday and said under questioning that the real-estate empire’s financial statements inflated the value and size of some assets, including Donald Trump’s penthouse in Trump Tower.

Weisselberg was called as a witness in the civil case brought by the New York attorney general’s office alleging Trump and his business engaged in a decadelong fraud that falsified asset values for financial gain. Weisselberg, who has left the company and served time this year in the Rikers Island jail complex on a tax-fraud conviction, is also a defendant in the case.

Throughout the day’s testimony, Weisselberg said he couldn’t recall specific details about certain Trump valuations and financial statements. He said he didn’t always review individual line items and instead looked at the overall financial picture of the company. 

State lawyer Louis Solomon showed Weisselberg property documents signed by Trump, dating back to 1994, that showed the correct square footage of the Trump penthouse—10,996 square feet—despite later financial statements that listed the apartment as 30,000 square feet. 

Weisselberg said he wasn’t aware of the incorrect square footage and valuation of the penthouse because it wasn’t a substantial portion of the Trump Organization’s multibillion-dollar portfolio.

“The triplex is part of the other assets, and they are all lumped together,” he said. He continued, “The apartment itself, relatively speaking, when you look at the value of the apartment in the net worth, it wasn’t a material change.”

 

 

 

 

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Weisselberg on Tuesday denied that Trump and his then-attorney Michael Cohen directed him to alter financial statements related to the company’s net worth. He also denied that two of Trump’s children, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, directed him to make any false financial reports.

Solomon, after pressing Weisselberg repeatedly on discrepancies between asset valuations in the financial statements and internal business documents, asked whether the Trump Organization followed accepted accounting principles.

“Did they fulfill their fundamental obligation?” he asked.

“No,” Weisselberg said.

 

 

[suh_fan93]

 

[TGHusker]

49 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

Sanction meaning what - Jail??     I wish they would move the court date up so it starts before the primaries. 

[Lorewarn]

1 hour ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

 

 

Didn't they already do this, and he violated it, and nothing happened?

[TGHusker]

1 hour ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Didn't they already do this, and he violated it, and nothing happened?

They did it for his fraud case.    I think this is the first on the J6 case 

[BigRedBuster]

5 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

They did it for his fraud case.    I think this is the first on the J6 case 

It's easy to get all his trials mixed up.

[TGHusker]

Just now, BigRedBuster said:

It's easy to get all his trials mixed up.

For sure.  I wish they would move the trial dates up.  I'm tired of him taking all of the air out of the room.  Time for this nation to move on beyond him.  He needs to be in a padded cell without his cell phone 

[BigRedBuster]

3 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

For sure.  I wish they would move the trial dates up.  I'm tired of him taking all of the air out of the room.  Time for this nation to move on beyond him.  He needs to be in a padded cell without his cell phone 

Agree.  But, I also want them to do it right so he doesn't slip through somehow because of a mistake.

[teachercd]

15 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Agree.  But, I also want them to do it right so he doesn't slip through somehow because of a mistake.

That is what I was thinking, if the trial happens soon and he "gets off", that might cause more issues.

Seems like it will be better to have a pending court date looming over his head.