RedDenver Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Landlord said: The author argued for including the phrase, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof", which is in the amendment, precisely for the purpose of making a distinction towards people not here legally. The argument being that illegal immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Right? Or am I reading/understanding this wrong? I see what you're saying now. That seems like a very weak argument. If they want to make the argument that illegals aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, doesn't that also mean they can't be detained, prosecuted, or jailed? 1 Link to comment
commando Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, Landlord said: The author argued for including the phrase, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof", which is in the amendment, precisely for the purpose of making a distinction towards people not here legally. The argument being that illegal immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Right? Or am I reading/understanding this wrong? have you ever heard of diplomatic imunity? that is what i take that phrase to exclude from being citizens....the kids of diplomats here in the country while serving their own countries interest. Link to comment
QMany Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) 3 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, QMany said: US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) I’m waiting for Ric’s rebuttal. Link to comment
commando Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 years into the trump administration and now we have a border invasion. 2 years of trump, 2 years of republican controlled congress and senate, and republican dominated judicial system....and it's the dems fault. i wonder when donnie and the republicans will take the blame for their screw ups? 4 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, schriznoeder said: But I thought Democrats brought the illegal immigrant murderers here. 1 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 1:59 PM, QMany said: US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) This sounds far more like the modern equivalent of a green card holder than someone who just wandered across the border illegally and popped out a kid. Quote A child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States, by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 how long till some trigger happy trumper shoots someone at the border?..Trump is saying that he has ordered personal to shoot if anyone throws a rock. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 It still amazes me how much this sack of s#!t lies to the American people. 2 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 For those that think political grandstanding comes without a price tag. What else could we be spending this money on? Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Thank goodness we could stave off certain annihilation. 1 Link to comment
commando Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 maybe a bit off topic......but isn't the correct term concertina wire instead of barbed wire? or is concertina a type of barbed wire? Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, commando said: maybe a bit off topic......but isn't the correct term concertina wire instead of barbed wire? or is concertina a type of barbed wire? The tweet above that one in that guy's feed used the term "C-wire." I had no idea what it meant. TIL. Link to comment
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