Dr. Strangelove Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: If nobody means just a person on the internet named Dr. Strangelove, then I guess you are on to something. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/594126-durham-alleges-cyber-analysts-exploited-access-to-trump-white-house?amp https://www.thedailybeast.com/igor-danchenko-steele-dossier-source-arrested-in-john-durham-investigation https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/04/durham-probe-analyst-tied-to-christopher-steele-trump-russia-dossier-arrested.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/durham-tech-exec-working-clinton-145141701.html these are the left wing ones btw Each one of these links simply state his allegations, which is that he's making claims in court that the Clinton Campaign spied on Trump. Those claims may be accurate, or they may be inaccurate. The doubt comes from the partisan nature of who appointed this special council, an Attorney General (or anybody associated with the Trump administration) nobody takes seriously. 34 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: You mean the one that ZERO convictions for the the actual issue it was tasked with investigating. Oh yeah, that one. That investigation yielded 37 indictments and compelling evidence that Trump obstructed Justice. But the President by definition cannot commit a crime, therefore the report left it up to the public to determine. You can only bring criminal charges if a crime is committed, and since Trump could not commit crimes as President he cannot be charged with anything. There's a statement signed by more than 1,000 former Federal Prosecutors agreeing that if ordinary Americans committed acts the President did, they'd be charged with multiple counts of obstruction. 5 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said: 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: Each one of these links simply state his allegations, which is that he's making claims in court that the Clinton Campaign spied on Trump. Those claims may be accurate, or they may be inaccurate. Correct, however, you said no one is taking it seriously. These news articles disagree with you. They take it seriously enough to spend resources covering it. 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said: That investigation yielded 37 indictments Most of those are Russians who had the indictments dropped. 2 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Archy1221 said: You mean the one that ZERO convictions for the the actual issue it was tasked with investigating. Oh yeah, that one. No I think he means the one that purposefully did not attempt to make a legal conclusion about what it was investigating, but did say that if the President would have been exonerated by the investigation, they would have said so, and they didn't. 2 Link to comment
nic Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Ha. I am not holding my breath that anything will come from this. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-accelerated-more-people-cooperating-coming-before-grand-jury 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, nic said: Ha. I am not holding my anything will come from this. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-accelerated-more-people-cooperating-coming-before-grand-jury Nice source. 4 Link to comment
nic Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scarlet said: Nice source. I read them all and aim somewhere in the middle. Honestly Foxnews headlines are approaching the old national enquirer. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Lorewarn said: No I think he means the one that purposefully did not attempt to make a legal conclusion about what it was investigating, but did say that if the President would have been exonerated by the investigation, they would have said so, and they didn't. So the one that had zero convictions on what was the primary investigation. Not even someone around the target was convicted for the primary investigation. Cohen for tax evasion and lying, Manafort for pre-election issues and the Florida guy for lying. So regardless of the President, why no one else? 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/donald-trump-really-was-spied-on-2016-clinton-campaign-john-durham-court-filing-11644878973 The new shocker relates to the data Mr. Joffe and friends were mining. According to Friday’s filing, as early as July 2016 Mr. Joffe was “exploit[ing]” his “access to non-public and/or proprietary Internet data,” including “Internet traffic pertaining to . . . the Executive Office of the President of the United States (“EOP”).” The filing explains that Mr. Joffe’s employer “had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided [internet services]” to the White House. Mr. Joffe’s team also was monitoring internet traffic related to Trump Tower, and Mr. Trump’s apartment on Central Park West. White House communications are supposed to be secure, and the notion that any contractor—much less one with ties to a presidential campaign—could access them is alarming enough. The implication that the data was exploited for a political purpose is a scandal that requires investigation under oath. The filing suggests the data collection continued into the Trump Presidency. Mr. Durham says that on Feb. 9, 2017, Mr. Sussmann met with a second federal agency (“Agency-2”) to provide “an updated set of allegations,” and that these “allegations relied, in part, on the purported [internet traffic] that [Mr. Joffe] and others had assembled pertaining to Trump Tower, Donald Trump’s New York City apartment building, the EOP” and a healthcare provider. 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 10:24 AM, Scarlet said: Looks like your tweeter deleted its tweet. Nice source! 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/donald-trump-really-was-spied-on-2016-clinton-campaign-john-durham-court-filing-11644878973 The new shocker relates to the data Mr. Joffe and friends were mining. According to Friday’s filing, as early as July 2016 Mr. Joffe was “exploit[ing]” his “access to non-public and/or proprietary Internet data,” including “Internet traffic pertaining to . . . the Executive Office of the President of the United States (“EOP”).” The filing explains that Mr. Joffe’s employer “had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided [internet services]” to the White House. Mr. Joffe’s team also was monitoring internet traffic related to Trump Tower, and Mr. Trump’s apartment on Central Park West. White House communications are supposed to be secure, and the notion that any contractor—much less one with ties to a presidential campaign—could access them is alarming enough. The implication that the data was exploited for a political purpose is a scandal that requires investigation under oath. The filing suggests the data collection continued into the Trump Presidency. Mr. Durham says that on Feb. 9, 2017, Mr. Sussmann met with a second federal agency (“Agency-2”) to provide “an updated set of allegations,” and that these “allegations relied, in part, on the purported [internet traffic] that [Mr. Joffe] and others had assembled pertaining to Trump Tower, Donald Trump’s New York City apartment building, the EOP” and a healthcare provider. 2 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Looks like your tweeter deleted its tweet. Nice source! Speaking of sources. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Scarlet said: Speaking of sources. Ya we’ve been over that. Thanks for proving my @Scarlet’s whataboutism problem 2 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Ya we’ve been over that. Thanks for proving my @Scarlet’s whataboutism problem Pretty sure you pulled out the @archy whataboutism card in your post I replied to. 4 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 12 hours ago, nic said: Ha. I am not holding my breath that anything will come from this. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-accelerated-more-people-cooperating-coming-before-grand-jury Yeah you shouldn't - even the Trump loyalists interviewed said that everything done was legal, and the person with the catch phrases, Kash Patel was in a role to do something about it when he served Mr. Trump --- and he didn't. Why they are coming out with it as headlines now after the statute of limitations has expired should have you questioning why they're publicizing it. What is really happening when you're looking at this nonsense. And I appreciate that you're seeing the Fox headlines for what they are. They haven't changed much in 5 years, but if folks are starting to realize the sensationalism and lies they contain maybe, just maybe we're making some headway in this country. 3 Link to comment
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