DevoHusker Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: He’s not really. Correct, I am not. Just pointing out that the "dear leader" crowd is not anywhere close to "1/2 the Country" 3 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: He’s not really. Isn't he, though? He's pushing back on "denigrating the Rs." Why shouldn't the Rs be denigrated? Why is that something to be corrected? Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, DevoHusker said: Correct, I am not. Just pointing out that the "dear leader" crowd is not anywhere close to "1/2 the Country" The pumpkin got 46.9% of the vote in 2020. SOOPER important correction. Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: He’s not really. We choose the turf we defend. 1 1 Link to comment
nic Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 This gave me laugh. A court in the confused state of California decides a honey be can be a fish for endangered species protection. the legislature should pass a law declaring the honey bee is an endangered species instead of interpreting a law in nonsensical ways? It makes the court look goofy. My wife and I are bee keepers. It takes effort to keep those colonies going. There are times you have to sacrifice a couple thousand to rid the colony of mites. Let’s hope this new protection of bee-fish doesn’t go overboard. https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-court-bumblebee-fish-environmental-law 2 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 7:02 AM, nic said: This gave me laugh. A court in the confused state of California decides a honey be can be a fish for endangered species protection. the legislature should pass a law declaring the honey bee is an endangered species instead of interpreting a law in nonsensical ways? It makes the court look goofy. My wife and I are bee keepers. It takes effort to keep those colonies going. There are times you have to sacrifice a couple thousand to rid the colony of mites. Let’s hope this new protection of bee-fish doesn’t go overboard. https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-court-bumblebee-fish-environmental-law If anything, the legislature should amend the original endangered species law to remove the word "fish" since the act was written to protect invertebrates, which the court said also includes non-marine invertebrates since snails for example were already protected under the same act. https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article262045952.html 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, RedDenver said: If anything, the legislature should amend the original endangered species law to remove the word "fish" since the act was written to protect invertebrates, which the court said also includes non-marine invertebrates since snails for example were already protected under the same act. https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article262045952.html Looks like I'm wrong about removing the word "fish", it's more that the California legislature created a confusing definition of fish. Here's a pretty good breakdown: https://www.loweringthebar.net/2022/06/court-says-bees-are-fish.html Quote “Fish” means a wild fish, mollusk, crustacean, invertebrate, amphibian, or part, spawn, or ovum of any of those animals. Cal. Fish & Game Code § 45. So the court didn't actually rule that bumblebees are fish, but rather that the law had already defined invertebrates as fish and the case before the court was whether that applied to non-marine invertebrates. Quote Insects are invertebrates. And this didn’t seem to be limited to aquatic beasts, the court held, because of that goddamn snail, which is terrestrial. Nobody had ever complained about it being on the list. If the Legislature cared about the aquaticness of invertebrates, the court seems to have reasoned, it would have done something about this, but it didn’t. Therefore, nonaquatic invertebrates can be on the list, and that’s what bumblebees are. This is why, at least for purposes of California’s section 45, bees are fish. If you want more, there’s a wonderful discussion of worms on page 34 of the opinion, but I need a drink. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Pretty interesting read. Don’t live there obviously and Not sure I agree it’s a failed city already but it’s not trending in a good direction based on the reporting https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/how-san-francisco-became-failed-city/661199/ 1 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/1/2022 at 5:56 PM, nic said: Muellers mandate was to prove Russian collution and nail Trump. No, it wasn't. 1 Link to comment
nic Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Lorewarn said: No, it wasn't. What was it then? Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, nic said: What was it then? To investigate links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with Trump's campaign, and also to pursue "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation." Not only is the word 'collusion' nowhere to be found in any of that, as it's a Trump/media buzzword, but Mueller also explicitly did not reach a conclusion on possible obstruction of justice in regards to Trump, operating under the DOJ's legal opinion that federal investigators can not indict a sitting President. Your claim that he was mandated to nail Trump is categorically false and the exact opposite of what was true; it was baked in that there would be no nailing of Trump no matter what from the very start. 3 1 Link to comment
Decoy73 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lorewarn said: it was baked in that there would be no nailing of Trump no matter what from the very start. Are you talking about Melania and their marriage? 2 Link to comment
nic Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Dems are at least cleaning up their mistakes. Does this mean criminal justice reform policies went to far? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-da-recalled/ 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 But, this won't go anywhere. Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Entirely on brand with the MAGA party. 1 Link to comment
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