Stone Cold Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Couldn’t agree more. There are plenty of throwing QB’s in HS capable of being quality college QB’s that are also athletic enough to scramble for yards when necessary. tired of having the 1 read and run QB’s. You can’t have a quality consistent passing attack with that type of personnel. I think this is an excellent point also because all these qbs end up putting the game in there hands at the high school level and that just doesnt translate well into college. In highschool its just the pool of the people in your community but college its the best that you can get to go there so you have a pool of people who decided to go to that school. You might be a dynamic runner but your going up against people who are dynamic at stopping the run. So now in the b10 the land of the linemen we are asking a qb who is a decent thrower to now try to run around or through linemen who go to these school to be friggin linemen, so by the time you go outside the pocket the game is up and there after you now. Well if a rb goes down we can get someone else to run the ball but if a qb goes down for something stupid youve got to rely on his backup who is rusty, doent know the system, is even a more run first guy than the guy hes replacing. Take everything, everything i just said and throw it out the door. Do you think anyone from Iowa is that good, really that good, really that fast, really and yet there winning pretty handily. Kirk Ferrenz doesnt care who runs the dam ball. As long as he get 10 yards in 3 carries who gives a s#!t the job is done. 1 Quote Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, SECHusker said: I'm fine with that. Yes I am fine too if they get rid of Moos. Moos basically said he is sticking with Frost until 2026 no matter what. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 I posted these stats a couple games ago. Here are the updated stats looking at the past decade under Pelini, Riley and Frost. When you look at the trends our offense is scoring nearly 6 points fewer from a year ago and our defense is giving up nearly 3 more points a game. Not a recipe for success. Year Points Scored Points Allowed Differential Wins Losses Win Percentage 2010 30.9 17.4 13.5 10 4 0.714 2011 29.2 23.4 5.8 9 4 0.692 2012 34.8 27.6 7.2 10 4 0.714 2013 31.9 24.8 7.1 9 4 0.692 2014 37.8 26.4 11.4 9 3 0.750 2015 32.8 27.8 5 5 7 0.417 2016 26.5 23.9 2.6 9 4 0.692 2017 25.8 36.4 -10.6 4 8 0.333 2018 30 31.2 -1.2 4 8 0.333 2019 28 27.8 0.2 5 7 0.417 2020 22.4 30.6 -8.2 2 5 0.286 Quote Link to comment
lowkeyhusker Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I don’t think Frost can go another year with AM at QB1. Bring in Milton. Show that he isn’t afraid to make changes. Hell he put Luke in there and we all know he’s not capable as well. Smothers maybe. but give him a year to watch Milton. Frost needs to win next year. I he has to bring in his old Qb Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said: I posted these stats a couple games ago. Here are the updated stats looking at the past decade under Pelini, Riley and Frost. When you look at the trends our offense is scoring nearly 6 points fewer from a year ago and our defense is giving up nearly 3 more points a game. Not a recipe for success. Year Points Scored Points Allowed Differential Wins Losses Win Percentage 2010 30.9 17.4 13.5 10 4 0.714 2011 29.2 23.4 5.8 9 4 0.692 2012 34.8 27.6 7.2 10 4 0.714 2013 31.9 24.8 7.1 9 4 0.692 2014 37.8 26.4 11.4 9 3 0.750 2015 32.8 27.8 5 5 7 0.417 2016 26.5 23.9 2.6 9 4 0.692 2017 25.8 36.4 -10.6 4 8 0.333 2018 30 31.2 -1.2 4 8 0.333 2019 28 27.8 0.2 5 7 0.417 2020 22.4 30.6 -8.2 2 5 0.286 But then people will tell you that it’s not a real year so it doesn’t matter. Quote Link to comment
HANC Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said: Yes I am fine too if they get rid of Moos. Moos basically said he is sticking with Frost until 2026 no matter what. Moos was only given the AD gig because he promised to only go after SF. Really wasnt "his" hire. It was TO, Green, etc...The hire made sense at the time, as most wanted the "hottest" candidate in the country and it just happto be a home grown guy. You can't blame Moos for that. The extension was iffy, but if you look back at the board, most of us had optimism too. Moos' hands are tied. He needs to keep SF at least another year, probably 2. Moos should not be the fall guy here. TO is just as much to blame, if not more. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, HANC said: Moos was only given the AD gig because he promised to only go after SF. Really wasnt "his" hire. It was TO, Green, etc...The hire made sense at the time, as most wanted the "hottest" candidate in the country and it just happto be a home grown guy. You can't blame Moos for that. The extension was iffy, but if you look back at the board, most of us had optimism too. Moos' hands are tied. He needs to keep SF at least another year, probably 2. Moos should not be the fall guy here. TO is just as much to blame, if not more. I agree that Moos got who everybody wanted, but I strongly disagree that Moos was right to extend Frost about a year ago exactly (December, 2019). Frost was coming off a much worse 2nd season than he had in his first season, and he still had 5 years on the contract so it's not like the time left was an issue for potential recruits. Moos should NOT have extended Frost to 2026 unless Frost had turned the program around and was showing great progress in Year 2. Quote Link to comment
HANC Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, HuskerNation1 said: I agree that Moos got who everybody wanted, but I strongly disagree that Moos was right to extend Frost about a year ago exactly (December, 2019). Frost was coming off a much worse 2nd season than he had in his first season, and he still had 5 years on the contract so it's not like the time left was an issue for potential recruits. Moos should NOT have extended Frost to 2026 unless Frost had turned the program around and was showing great progress in Year 2. I agree with you. Probably too early for an extension based on results. Quote Link to comment
Stone Cold Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said: I agree that Moos got who everybody wanted, but I strongly disagree that Moos was right to extend Frost about a year ago exactly (December, 2019). Frost was coming off a much worse 2nd season than he had in his first season, and he still had 5 years on the contract so it's not like the time left was an issue for potential recruits. Moos should NOT have extended Frost to 2026 unless Frost had turned the program around and was showing great progress in Year 2. I think that was for frost to show the university had faith and to cement that fact to the fans 1 Quote Link to comment
Bookie Killer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Stone Cold said: Moos isnt going anywhere, hes a good AD. Frost if he doesnt turn it around next year his seat is on fire, he cant get to a bowl in year 5 and hes gone. Time to bring on urban. We have a better chance of going undefeated next year than Urban ever coaching here (not sure if you were serious)... BUT we could bring in Art Briles Quote Link to comment
Stone Cold Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Urban has a ego, if he did it at 2 schools he could do it at another. Pay him enough and he would come Quote Link to comment
Bookie Killer Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, Stone Cold said: Urban has a ego, if he did it at 2 schools he could do it at another. Pay him enough and he would come How did that work out for Texas? 1 Quote Link to comment
CheeseHusker Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Who do you get? Who would want it? I'm not sure this program can be saved. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, CheeseHusker said: Who do you get? Who would want it? I'm not sure this program can be saved. Fred Hoiberg is here as our basketball coach. Our b-ball team has no history of success if you have the money, facilities, fan support amongst other things and a coach looks at the position and says shoot they have everything you need to succeed you can get a top tier coach 1 Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said: Fred Hoiberg is here as our basketball coach. Our b-ball team has no history of success if you have the money, facilities, fan support amongst other things and a coach looks at the position and says shoot they have everything you need to succeed you can get a top tier coach Fred had family history here, unique situation that I don't think applies to your argument. 1 Quote Link to comment
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