What is the future of the Republican Party?

[Archy1221]

25 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Correctly describes the movement as a parasite on America.

 

Anyone can answer that thinks they know the answer.

Sorry, I probably wasn’t clear on my ask..What words do the t and s refer to?   I know what words the MAGA refer to.  

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

Sorry, I probably wasn’t clear on my ask..What words do the t and s refer to?   I know what words the MAGA refer to.  

I'm sorry that you don't understand my pretty clear answer.  The "t" turns MAGA into the appropriate parasite on America they are.  The "s" is plural.

 

Do you know the answer to the question?

[Archy1221]

18 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I'm sorry that you don't understand my pretty clear answer.  The "t" turns MAGA into the appropriate parasite on America they are.  The "s" is plural.

 

Do you know the answer to the question?

In my opinion only….and will come in a few posts because this website loves to refresh posts (how this can’t be fixed is crazy btw)….there is no answer in the way you want it answered.  There is no direct time period in terms of direct years.  

[knapplc]

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

I've asked this question multiple times and never get a clear answer.  Using the word "again" means that it once was great but now isn't.  So, what era of our country are MAGAts wanting to take us back to and what made that era so great?

 

The real answer is "before the Civil Rights Act," so basically prior to the 60s, when women were objects, minorities were discriminated against, and White men simply had to exist to be superior. 

 

They won't answer the question because they are self-aware enough to understand that bigotry is still bad. 

[Archy1221]

Continued…..reason being is because no matter what time period one picks, there is always going to be something wrong with it, plus someone would then talk about technological advances not if the country went back.   
 

So in my view, it’s more about an idea, the idea of American Exceptionalism that doesn’t exist as much anymore.   The idea that everyone outcomes are not guaranteed and success should be rewarded above incompetency.   

[Archy1221]

Continues…..The idea that we as a country ARE better than any of our contemporary countries and we don’t have to go backwards in order for them to feel like equals.  We should have Allie’s for sure, but that doesn’t mean our standard should be theirs.   We should have immigration, people that come in and bring new ideas to move the country forward, but we shouldn’t become the country that those people moved from.  Immigrants should  assimilate to our standards, laws, language, economic system, etc….continue to celebrate and share parts of their culture but remember why they are leaving their homelands and picking the US as their landing spot.   Just a few thoughts that are my own 

[BigRedBuster]

4 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Continues…..The idea that we as a country ARE better than any of our contemporary countries and we don’t have to go backwards in order for them to feel like equals.  We should have Allie’s for sure, but that doesn’t mean our standard should be theirs.   We should have immigration, people that come in and bring new ideas to move the country forward, but we shouldn’t become the country that those people moved from.  Immigrants should  assimilate to our standards, laws, language, economic system, etc….continue to celebrate and share parts of their culture but remember why they are leaving their homelands and picking the US as their landing spot.   Just a few thoughts that are my own 

And, you don't think when immigrants came to America 100 years ago they didn't bring their own traditions, experiences, things they liked...etc.

I beg to differ.  And there are communities right here in Nebraska and all across America that proves that.

 

And, I would argue that the vast majority of Mexican (as an example) immigrants DO assimilate.  I live in a very VERY hispanic area and have many friends who are Mexican immigrants or descendants of immigrants that are very well assimilated into our country.

[BigRedBuster]

19 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Continued…..reason being is because no matter what time period one picks, there is always going to be something wrong with it, plus someone would then talk about technological advances not if the country went back.   
 

So in my view, it’s more about an idea, the idea of American Exceptionalism that doesn’t exist as much anymore.   The idea that everyone outcomes are not guaranteed and success should be rewarded above incompetency.   

American Exceptionalism....hmmmm.

 

I would say that the vast majority of Americans think this is a pretty dang good country to live in.  Just because there are things people want changed, doesn't mean they don't love this country.  People have wanted change in this country since before it was even a country and that will always be.  The country moves forward and changes.

 

So....When someone supports a minority group and wants things to change for them....that doesn't mean they don't love this country and think it's great.  In fact, they love it BECAUSE we are a country where we have the power to change and adapt to what people want.

 

Most of the greatest changes that have made America a better country came from people who, at first, were looked at as radical or..."anti American".

[Guy Chamberlin]

2 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Continued…..reason being is because no matter what time period one picks, there is always going to be something wrong with it, plus someone would then talk about technological advances not if the country went back.   
 

So in my view, it’s more about an idea, the idea of American Exceptionalism that doesn’t exist as much anymore.   The idea that everyone outcomes are not guaranteed and success should be rewarded above incompetency.   

 

No, it wouldn't be about technological advances. That hadn't even occurred to me.

 

American Exceptionalism?  Okay. That's something. Do you think that people, particularly liberals, are against the ideal of American Exceptionalism? Or has some of that Exceptionalism actually faded according to real-world statistics?  Is it possible that liberals and conservatives are both fighting for the American Dream at the same time, coming from slightly different angles of the All Men are Created Equal/Life Liberty & Pursuit of Happiness bedrock of our founding principles, the very thing that makes us Exceptional? 

 

I know how communism/socialism is the straw dog that feeds every conservative, but leveling the playing field is not about making sure everyone's outcomes are guaranteed. It's just leveling the playing field, and that's what folks around the world thought American Exceptionalism was all about. 

 

And do you honestly think incompetency isn't rewarded in unfettered capitalism? Or by Republican voters? You may want to read the news. 

 

At the very least, Donald Trump and his followers want to get back to the way some things were. What specifically are those things?

[Archy1221]

6 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

And, you don't think when immigrants came to America 100 years ago they didn't bring their own traditions, experiences, things they liked...etc.

It’s pretty clear I didn’t say that. 
 

7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I beg to differ.  And there are communities right here in Nebraska and all across America that proves that

You are begging to differ against something I clearly didn’t say.  
 

9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

It’s pretty clear I didn’t say that. 
 

You are begging to differ against something I clearly didn’t say.  
 

Then I hope you explain it more.  

[Archy1221]

12 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

I would say that the vast majority of Americans think this is a pretty dang good country to live in.  Just because there are things people want changed, doesn't mean they don't love this country.  People have wanted change in this country since before it was even a country and that will always be.  The country moves forward and changes.

You are equating my American exceptionalism comment with loving the country for some reason.  I clearly never made that correlation. 
 

Change for the sake of change doesn’t necessarily mean that the change moves things in a good way.  

[Archy1221]

3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Then I hope you explain it more.  

Sorry but I don’t believe I need to.  See where I clearly said celebrate and share parts of their culture 

 

continue to celebrate and share parts of their culture but remember why they are leaving their homelands and picking the US as their landing spot.

[Archy1221]

19 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

So....When someone supports a minority group and wants things to change for them....that doesn't mean they don't love this country and think it's great

You are making an argument against something I didn’t say.   When I did argue that helping a minority group means those people don’t love their country? 

[BigRedBuster]

5 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

You are equating my American exceptionalism comment with loving the country for some reason.  I clearly never made that correlation. 
 

Change for the sake of change doesn’t necessarily mean that the change moves things in a good way.  

I don't understand this.  I'm relating this not to something you necessarily said.  I'm relating it to how I hear other conservative people talk about it.  Many times, when someone wants something to change, I hear the comment..."Well, if they don't like th America the way it is...move somewhere else".  

 

I'm struggling to figure out really what you mean by "American exceptionalism".