Media Bias

[BigRedBuster]

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

Good. People have been saying CNN is as bad as Fox now. That kind of crap has to stop.

 

 

Good. 

[nic]

3 hours ago, knapplc said:

Good. People have been saying CNN is as bad as Fox now. That kind of crap has to stop.

 

 

Let’s hope so. I would clean house on the prime time line up to start. Can’t go any lower than they already are, may as well take the chance. Looking forward to it, but I am skeptical it will happen. We need to go back to the basics in how journalism is taught in schools.

[knapplc]

12 minutes ago, nic said:

Can’t go any lower than they already are

 

Hold my beer.

- Tucker Carlson

[knapplc]

13 minutes ago, nic said:

We need to go back to the basics in how journalism is taught in schools.

 

It's not how journalism is taught. They don't teach this in any journalism school.

 

You're seeing corporate greed producing rage porn for unwitting masses. Rupert Murdoch has perfected his craft.

[BigRedBuster]

19 minutes ago, nic said:

Let’s hope so. I would clean house on the prime time line up to start. Can’t go any lower than they already are, may as well take the chance. Looking forward to it, but I am skeptical it will happen. We need to go back to the basics in how journalism is taught in schools.

CNN is far from the lowest cable media outlet. 

[NM11046]

41 minutes ago, nic said:

Let’s hope so. I would clean house on the prime time line up to start. Can’t go any lower than they already are, may as well take the chance. Looking forward to it, but I am skeptical it will happen. We need to go back to the basics in how journalism is taught in schools.

Curious why getting rid of all prime time folks is your solution ... admittedly I only listen to a couple programs on their network, but I feel Jake Tapper is a strong non biased' anchor.  I haven't seen Wolf Blitzer do anything I'd consider terribly biased - am I missing something?

 

My point is that there are good and bad personalities and shows at all these networks.  The policies need to potentially change, awareness need to improve and there need to be better producers and guidelines to ensure that networks focus on sourcing, confirmation and etc - but even on Fox there are bad and better/good ... I'd point to Mike Wallace, Bret Baier and Shep Smith, maybe Neil Cavuto as head and shoulders less biased than everyone else.  

 

As they say;  Baby/bath water.  Not the anchor but the writers, researchers etc need to be canned if they've shown history of behavior that is off base - anchors aren't necessarily the problem, and certainly all of them aren't.

[Born N Bled Red]

3 hours ago, NM11046 said:

Curious why getting rid of all prime time folks is your solution ... admittedly I only listen to a couple programs on their network, but I feel Jake Tapper is a strong non biased' anchor.  I haven't seen Wolf Blitzer do anything I'd consider terribly biased - am I missing something?

 

My point is that there are good and bad personalities and shows at all these networks.  The policies need to potentially change, awareness need to improve and there need to be better producers and guidelines to ensure that networks focus on sourcing, confirmation and etc - but even on Fox there are bad and better/good ... I'd point to Mike Wallace, Bret Baier and Shep Smith, maybe Neil Cavuto as head and shoulders less biased than everyone else.  

 

As they say;  Baby/bath water.  Not the anchor but the writers, researchers etc need to be canned if they've shown history of behavior that is off base - anchors aren't necessarily the problem, and certainly all of them aren't.

Outlook.

Most of the Fox personalities you listed are no longer there.

[NM11046]

Yeah I know that - that actually is a point in addition to the one  being discussed (why did they leave?)  I felt it might actually be taken under more consideration if folks on the board recognize some of the people they might actually be familiar with in the content.

 

My point, was that there are "good" and "bad" personalities on every station dispursed throughout the day.  Much if not all of what comes out of their mouth is being read off a script that a producer/writer create and isn't actually their opinions or their knowledge.  So, sure some direct their writers what they want to explore and the take they want to have on screen, but most are just reading notes.  

 

Getting rid of the daytime talent will do nothing - putting in guidelines on opinion shows vs news, having more focus on fact checking and not allowing not fact checkable info on show, curbing sensationalism etc is what needs to be done.  

 

 

 

[nic]

4 hours ago, NM11046 said:

Curious why getting rid of all prime time folks is your solution ... admittedly I only listen to a couple programs on their network, but I feel Jake Tapper is a strong non biased' anchor.  I haven't seen Wolf Blitzer do anything I'd consider terribly biased - am I missing something?

 

My point is that there are good and bad personalities and shows at all these networks.  The policies need to potentially change, awareness need to improve and there need to be better producers and guidelines to ensure that networks focus on sourcing, confirmation and etc - but even on Fox there are bad and better/good ... I'd point to Mike Wallace, Bret Baier and Shep Smith, maybe Neil Cavuto as head and shoulders less biased than everyone else.  

 

As they say;  Baby/bath water.  Not the anchor but the writers, researchers etc need to be canned if they've shown history of behavior that is off base - anchors aren't necessarily the problem, and certainly all of them aren't.

Wel. I guess Cuomo is already gone. Is wolf Blitzer still on? Holy Cow I don't watch much anymore. If you look at Fox I can think of three prime timers that are far right. Tucker, Ingram and Hannity. I actually watched  Shannon Beam recently and she seems ok, but it's a very small sample size. So you are right it's not all.

[nic]

4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

CNN is far from the lowest cable media outlet. 

Is MSNBC lower? Maybe Newsmax? If it's FOX they are lying about ratings.

[nic]

I guess she is jealous of the attention Ukraine is getting. Needs some for herself.

 

 

[knapplc]

There's "We need to do better and we're going to focus on news more"

 

And then there's Fox.

 

Weird how some people won't criticize this platform. And yet expect to be taken seriously.

 

Both sides. Or something. I guess.      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

[nic]

13 minutes ago, knapplc said:

There's "We need to do better and we're going to focus on news more"

 

And then there's Fox.

 

Weird how some people won't criticize this platform. And yet expect to be taken seriously.

 

Both sides. Or something. I guess.      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

Not sure why we would want Ukraine taken by Russia even if they are corrupt. We shouldn’t have let Russia take part of Ukraine years ago, but we did. Twice.  I would not be surprised if the Ukrainian government is corrupt. I have heard that reported a lot, but that does not that mean we let Putin do what he wants and lie to justify it. Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine. Also if the Ukrainians want to fight, let them fight. Any thorn we can stick in Putin’s side, is a good thing. We didn’t let Iraq take Kuwait, but I guess we had more at stake. We are not dependent on Ukrainian energy.

[knapplc]

At least we can stop pretending, now that bullets are flying and nukes are threatened. 

 

Anything other than overt condemnation is tacit approval.

[admo]

Yup..