Your 2023 Nebraska Cornhuskers

[sho]

4 hours ago, Undone said:

 

Did you mean player captain or figuratively "captain," like the coach?

 

Captain like coach.

[Undone]

44 minutes ago, sho said:

 

Captain like coach.

 

Gotcha. You had said that we just didn't have the right guy to form a "cohesive offensive plan."

 

I honestly felt like I observed the exact opposite; I felt like Frost's scheme, playbook, & philosophy on offense were good. At times almost bordering on great. But he & his coaches just didn't seem to be able to coach the players to be in the best place to perform great, and they couldn't get them into the right mindset to step onto the field and perform confidently & competently.

 

And we weren't just "not performing great." The team routinely looked like hammered dog s*** out there. But it wasn't because the game plan was too predictable or simple, etc.

 

I don't think that had anything to do with what the plan was on paper. I think the coaches sucked at coaching. And although it's waaaaaay too early to tell, Rhule seems to be more focused on what needs to be done during practice time, instead of just living up in the clouds with X's & O's being what wins a game.
 

[sho]

1 hour ago, Undone said:

 

Gotcha. You had said that we just didn't have the right guy to form a "cohesive offensive plan."

 

I honestly felt like I observed the exact opposite; I felt like Frost's scheme, playbook, & philosophy on offense were good. At times almost bordering on great. But he & his coaches just didn't seem to be able to coach the players to be in the best place to perform great, and they couldn't get them into the right mindset to step onto the field and perform confidently & competently.

 

And we weren't just "not performing great." The team routinely looked like hammered dog s*** out there. But it wasn't because the game plan was too predictable or simple, etc.

 

I don't think that had anything to do with what the plan was on paper. I think the coaches sucked at coaching. And although it's waaaaaay too early to tell, Rhule seems to be more focused on what needs to be done during practice time, instead of just living up in the clouds with X's & O's being what wins a game.
 

Fair point.    Frost did have good schemes, but couldn't teach discipline.  That I feel was the biggest issue, boneheaded mistakes too many times.  And they were not emotionally stable enough to overcome their mistakes.   Seems like one mistake got in their head and led to a snowball.   I do think Rhule will be much more detail oriented and demand excellence.   I'm not sure if Frost demanded anything.

[Undone]

30 minutes ago, sho said:

I'm not sure if Frost demanded anything.

 

Yeah. Maybe he was demanding it in his head, or saying it here or there, but wasn't communicating it in real leadership form to his staff and his players.

 

I think he might have had some big blind spots where he took things for granted. Like, he just expected that the players knew "what playing for Nebraska meant," and how much they should respect that and how that in turn should have been some kind of automatic feedback loop of motivation. And I think he was dead wrong.

 

He wasn't a good motivator, he didn't realize it, and he didn't realize how much he was lacking in that department.

[Fru]

Excluding 2022, this is how Scott’s offenses fared in the B1G https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/team/_/season/2015/group/5

 

2018 2nd

2019 5th

2020 4th

2021 2nd

All the other teams in those years that finished in the top 5 within the conference were bowl eligible… except Neb.
 

Scott’s offenses were able rack up a lot of yards, but struggled in the red zone. Like others have said, attention to detail likely doomed him. One less drive killing false start here, one less turnover there.
 

I’d also throw in a lack of focus on special teams as well. Having a reliable kicking game or getting better field position off a KO or Punt would’ve certainly helped. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but man it seemed like every drive started at our own 15. 

 

[Mavric]

 

[MyBloodIsRed16]

5 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

any idea who the DB in the gray jersey is?  I'm sure its been mentioned but I can't remember.  

[Husker in WI]

8 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

any idea who the DB in the gray jersey is?  I'm sure its been mentioned but I can't remember.  

 

There are two now, Jalil Martin (17) and Javier Morton (25).

[Dogs In A Pile]

SSO’s Practice Observations (Offense)

 

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Ok, here we go! I’ve had a chance to be at two practices. I’ll first start by saying what I see is basically just from those two occasions with some of what i’ve heard sprinkled in.............

 

 

 

Going over a few coaching differences from the last 5 years to Rhule and Company

 

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The old joke about football is that if you ask 100 coaches how something should be done, you will end up getting 100 different answers. So that’s why when things go great people try to emulate but put their own spin on it. Conversely when things go bad you can say “see they shouldn’t have been doing _______ “. There’s things that I didn’t mind that Frost did, but there’s also things that I really didn’t understand the theory behind them. We are going to start with a few of the differences i’ve seen so far...............

 

[Undone]

21 hours ago, Dogs In A Pile said:

Going over a few coaching differences from the last 5 years to Rhule and Company

 

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"I would say Rhule is much more like Pelini than some people realize, and I think we need that fire and accountability back."

 

[Undone]

Honestly though, I think that Short Side Option read is really good.

 

I think the summary with Frost is, he had these blind spots. He took way too much for granted. Seems that he assumed that the input they put in at UCF was where the success came from, and that if they just reproduced the input that Nebraska would be successful.

 

Then when success didn't occur, he was either oblivious that the input (coaching, practice format, motivational techniques, whatever) wasn't working or was just too stubborn to change what he was doing.

 

Rhule at least has more seasons of college football coaching under his belt.

[ColoradoHusk]

5 minutes ago, Undone said:

Rhule at least has more seasons of college football coaching under his belt.

Along with being successful at two different schools, in two different areas of the country.

 

Some may be nervous because he failed at the NFL, but he can use that failure as a good learning tool. Plus, coaching NFL guys is different than coaching college kids, which very few have been successful at doing both. 

[Undone]

13 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Along with being successful at two different schools, in two different areas of the country.

 

Some may be nervous because he failed at the NFL, but he can use that failure as a good learning tool. Plus, coaching NFL guys is different than coaching college kids, which very few have been successful at doing both. 

 

Yep. I think it's a solid prediction that it'll probably only take Rhule two seasons here to post better W/L results than Frost's best season here. Which isn't saying very much, as Frost's best season was 5-7.

 

But there's little doubt in my mind even this early on that we're going to at least be better. Not a Kool-Aid chugging take there at all, just saying "better."

[Mavric]

 

[Mavric]