jmfb Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 I dont It happens all the time- before conviction The standard is not beyond a reasonable doubt No way he is innocent Did you know if he plays and the NCAA finds he did this- they vacate wins, vacate titles? Unfortunately their administration and fan base value possible wins over integrity Much of their fan base has said so very brazenly. They openly dont care if he did it or not. Another large contingent is hoping for an OJ defense, get off on a technicality or not quite perfect evidecne in place.etc A tiny sliver of them are saying suspend him. Real shame such a great Univeristy would let itself be tarnished by something like this. Brazenly saying catch us if you can, we dont care if he is guilty or not. The kid already lied to them in March when another autographing incident came to their attention It's part of why the Manziel family has been so testy with the A&M administration. This has been a VERY long time coming. They knew they had a ticking time bomb for quite some time. So were you okay with Osbourne letting LP and Christian Peter stay on the team then? Ok youve done it 3 times in this thread You know his hame is spelled Tom Osborne right? Were you even following the team when that went down? Ive addressed that situation 2 times already Yes, I was following the team, thank you. If I was a big follower of Nebraska and knew all the details you supposedly know: I wouldnt be misspelling Osbornes name 4 times in one thread- obviously you think that's how his name is spelled Pretty basic Nebraska football knowledge 101 stuff Me punctuating you've correctly has nothing to do with my knowledge of NU football- spelling Osborne incorrectly 4 times in one small thread however does Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Johnny Manziel would never have handed the football to Jack Hoffman. Sure he would have. Right after he signed the football and Hoffman's jersey. Quote Link to comment
Ulty Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Johnny Manziel would never have handed the football to Jack Hoffman. Sure he would have. Right after he signed the football and Hoffman's jersey. I think Manziel was the guy who bid all that money for the Jack Hoffman trading card but didn't pay. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Johnny Manziel would never have handed the football to Jack Hoffman. Sure he would have. Right after he signed the football and Hoffman's jersey. I think Manziel was the guy who bid all that money for the Jack Hoffman trading card but didn't pay. Obviously he was waiting for the check to clear from his autograph session. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 This is a thread about Johnny Manziel. It has nothing to do with Nebraska Football. Opining whether he'd be tolerated here lasted about five posts and now we're into a full-on Manziel bashing thread. This belongs in Other Sports, hence the move. Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 He probably needed to check in with "Uncle Nate" Manziels "personal assistant" Pictured here with a sack full of cash: http://texags.com/ma...0539&forum_id=5 Yep, that's who I would want repping me Im doubtful the NU compliance office would have let this slide Quote Link to comment
Foppa Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 How would NU fans be responding to this situation if Manziel was at NU? Uber rich spoiled brat, drives Mercedes, mom&dad move to College Station and buy big house for him and them, Spoiled, enabled, narcisisst He makes slashing gestures after scoring TDs- no respect to his opps- trash talker Gets into bar fight right across the street from the school- arrested etc Gets caught with fake IDs trying to enter bars plural (big whoop) Goes to Austin LAST WEEK to attend a Frat party on the Texas campus, wearing an A&M jersey- gets kicked out (University of Texas people HATE A&M) Thumbs his nose at aggie fans and alumns via facebook and twitter Takes PICS of himself with 1000s of $$ at casino and POSTS THEM on facebook and twitter- he's not old enough to legally drink or go into a casino- but posts plenty of pics doing so Hires an idiot "uncle Nate" frat boy dweeb- kid quits school to be JMs "personal assistant", kid is total party animal knucklehead the exact opposite of who mom& dad should have hired JM gets caught red handed signing 100s of items for a autograph broker in his hotel room- when it is WELL KNOWN that JM HATES signing autographs- he's not sitting down for 2 hours to sign stuff for free- Kid is attention whore of the worst kind Puts his team and program at risk for a measily $7,500, when his mom and dad bought him a $60,000 car and traveling all over the world flashing cash etc Obviously he has said a number of times, he's gone to the NFL after this season- he doesnt care a hoot about his teammates, his team or the University- only himself His mom and dad do a TV interview where they say they bought the car for him because "we didnt want him to be tempted in getting it another way". They also said they feared he was out of control and an alcoholic. They all know this kid is guilty of this, pattern of behaivor, - not sharpest tool in the toolbox Some good Aggies- a few are calling for the kid to fess up and step away The MAJORITY are hidign behind the BS that the rules are unfair and everyone else is breaking them, so hands off Others know he is guilty and are hoping to get off on a technicality- lack of perfect evidence OJ style A&M is SO DESPERATE for that first real National Championship- they seem to be perfectly fine with trading integrity for wins So much for the Aggie Code of Honor- I will not lie cheat or steal or tolerate those who do. Lets not make this into a debate on if the rules are fair. The rules are the rules- are they to be ignored because someone is a good football player? Mind you if selling autographs were 100% legal- rich alumns from the richest schools could guarantee recruits a MINIMUM of X $$$ to sign up, they just buy that many autographs. REALLY easy to pull off. What happens here in Osborne or Pelini era? Back when LP had his troubles, I remember MOST Husker fans were for tossing him, I know I was. It's called a 'rhetorical question.' Quote Link to comment
grandpasknee Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Correct This isnt beyond a reasonable doubt standard in any way shape or form. But, I dont think that they have the ability to require non athletes or non staff to testify Which is exactly why Cam Newton was allowed to play - and many others are still allowed to play. They can have a picture of the poorest guy in the world with 10 million dollars but if they can't find the cash or proof of him taking the cash - then they can't do anything. If they could banish every player they suspected of taking improper benefits, football would be a lot different. Way back in the day I was sitting in the West Stadium, directly in front of a couple of well aged and successful business men from Grand Island. Enthusiastic fans both of them. Mike Rozier broke one for around a 60 yd TD..highlight reel type stuff....and after the noise died down and we were seated again, the one old boy said to the other "that ought to be worth an A in English and a night with some rancher's daughter". I about blew soda out my nose. The point is, even they knew that players get "fringe benefits". No problem with the fringe benefits from me either. However, potentially jacking up your whole team's chances for a decent season and being publicly and repeatedly stupid doesn't fly with me and I'm sure a lot of people. Bottom line is, some will line up to support him and some will line up against him. Like it or not, the NCAA is the final arbiter in this deal. We'll see what happens. It will be another interesting thread to fill up inbetween the real game news this fall. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Manziel would have transferred anyway because Bo still would have went with Taylor.... Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Manziel would have transferred anyway because Bo still would have went with Taylor.... And Bo would be looking like a genius right now. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Manziel would have transferred anyway because Bo still would have went with Taylor.... And Bo would be looking like a genius right now. I don't think that's possible.... Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Manziel would have transferred anyway because Bo still would have went with Taylor.... And Bo would be looking like a genius right now. I don't think that's possible.... Certainly more possible than some Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Manziel would have transferred anyway because Bo still would have went with Taylor.... Are you done? Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Manziel would have transferred anyway because Bo still would have went with Taylor.... And Bo would be looking like a genius right now. Not really. No one would have cared about Johny Manziel's every bowl movement if he was a back-up at Nebraska, and his autographs wouldn't be worth anything. He would simply be the most popular player on the roster. Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Nice job taking that completely out of context Quote Link to comment
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