admo Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I would rather see Tim Beck go anywhere than be retained. Even tOSU. I don't know if this helps the Buckeyes or not. But I do feel more confident in the Huskers moving forward with Riley & Langsdorf than with Tim Beck. 1 Quote Link to comment
QMany Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Hiring Tim Beck to be a QB coach makes about as much sense to me as hiring Stevie Wonder to be your designated driver. Don't get me started on Stevie Wonder's ability to see. 3 Quote Link to comment
BigBoyBoelts Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Hopefully Beck will do for OSU what Kiffin has done for Alabama. Which is? To cause Urban to have some melt down yelling at him on the side lines when he makes his calls, and also to NOT make it to the Championship game....but that might be just a hope for bad luck on the OSU side more than anything. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It was kinda interesting that in the only game Tim Beck coached without Bo Pelini, the Nebraska offense ran 94 plays in an uptempo offense with only one turnover and few penalties, almost 30 more plays than they averaged the rest of the season. I would have guessed it was Beck who had the offense stand-up and look over to the sidelines to get every play call. But since they suddenly stopped doing that for the USC game, I gotta wonder. 3 Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I liked Shawn Watson's offense. I liked Tim Beck's offense. Wished I could have seen them with slightly better quarterbacks, offensive lines and supporting defenses. Even then there was a lot of excitement, including three of the best individual rushing careers in Nebraska history. I honestly thought the folks who considered Nebraska "pass happy" "too cute" and "unwilling to stick with what works" didn't understand football. Or simply didn't watch other teams do the exact same thing, slightly better. Without turnovers. And stupid penalties. And having to get out of those holes created by your historically bad defense. On a team where the head coach had everyone -- players and staff -- wound too tight. Every OC will call plays and sequences that don't pan out. Every single game. Tim Beck was no more or less egregious than most. And if you don't like "cute" or "multiple" don't watch Scott Frost's team tonight. Glad to see me and Urban Meyer on the same page. You know pal, you can understand football and not like what Beck was doing. Yes he did what a lot of other teams were doing. So what? I dont like half the other teams offenses in college football either. Too cute, was a lot of people's way of saying "too finesse". I always thought it that way anyways. A zone read option offense where there really is no "read" or "option"? They literally said the play was usually pre-determined. Tommy rarely made the read and kept it. Sorry, but most teams DO NOT do it that way. Stretch zone with literally no north and south run game. A QB lined up ten yards in the backfield with the running back behind him. Plays taking 1.5 seconds to even get back to the line of scrimmage or point of attack. Not my style of football and I understand the game just fine. The lack of a short passing game was that ridiculous, unless it was that overused WR screen? Not my kind of football. An offense where the TE doesn't exist? No thanks Beck. Tim Beck still doesn't know what a HB screen is. Even as we've watched opposing defenses put 7-8 defenders in the box and blitz like madmen for years now. We'll agree, the offensive line was pathetic. Has been for some time. Yet, as pathetic as it continually was, it seems we kept forcing the same zone blocking schemes down their throats, even as they demonstrated year after year their inability to understand their assignments. As far as Oregon being multiple, I think too many of you misunderstand Oregons multiple compared to Nebraska multiple. It's not the same thing. Oregon runs multiple variations of the same few plays. They'll line up in similar formations and run simple variations out of those formations. They execute very well. they use their QB's mobility. Nebraska ran multiple formations. We would line up in nearly every formation known to man in a single game. We used our QB as a pocket passer instead of a mobile passing threat. We didn't execute anything to perfection, but we were multiple. Good for us, 5 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 LOL...That said by someone who's sig line at the bottom of every post includes video of a great play that is total finesse, takes a long time to develop with the QB 7 yards off the LOS. 1 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I liked Shawn Watson's offense. I liked Tim Beck's offense. Wished I could have seen them with slightly better quarterbacks, offensive lines and supporting defenses. Even then there was a lot of excitement, including three of the best individual rushing careers in Nebraska history. I honestly thought the folks who considered Nebraska "pass happy" "too cute" and "unwilling to stick with what works" didn't understand football. Or simply didn't watch other teams do the exact same thing, slightly better. Without turnovers. And stupid penalties. And having to get out of those holes created by your historically bad defense. On a team where the head coach had everyone -- players and staff -- wound too tight. Every OC will call plays and sequences that don't pan out. Every single game. Tim Beck was no more or less egregious than most. And if you don't like "cute" or "multiple" don't watch Scott Frost's team tonight. Glad to see me and Urban Meyer on the same page. You know pal, you can understand football and not like what Beck was doing. Yes he did what a lot of other teams were doing. So what? I dont like half the other teams offenses in college football either. Too cute, was a lot of people's way of saying "too finesse". I always thought it that way anyways. A zone read option offense where there really is no "read" or "option"? They literally said the play was usually pre-determined. Tommy rarely made the read and kept it. Sorry, but most teams DO NOT do it that way. Stretch zone with literally no north and south run game. A QB lined up ten yards in the backfield with the running back behind him. Plays taking 1.5 seconds to even get back to the line of scrimmage or point of attack. Not my style of football and I understand the game just fine. The lack of a short passing game was that ridiculous, unless it was that overused WR screen? Not my kind of football. An offense where the TE doesn't exist? No thanks Beck. Tim Beck still doesn't know what a HB screen is. Even as we've watched opposing defenses put 7-8 defenders in the box and blitz like madmen for years now. We'll agree, the offensive line was pathetic. Has been for some time. Yet, as pathetic as it continually was, it seems we kept forcing the same zone blocking schemes down their throats, even as they demonstrated year after year their inability to understand their assignments. As far as Oregon being multiple, I think too many of you misunderstand Oregons multiple compared to Nebraska multiple. It's not the same thing. Oregon runs multiple variations of the same few plays. They'll line up in similar formations and run simple variations out of those formations. They execute very well. they use their QB's mobility. Nebraska ran multiple formations. We would line up in nearly every formation known to man in a single game. We used our QB as a pocket passer instead of a mobile passing threat. We didn't execute anything to perfection, but we were multiple. Good for us, That's some mighty fine cherry-picking that ignores just as many examples of the exact opposite. 2 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I certainly won't miss Tim Beck, based soley on having conversations like this every week. 1 Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It's all good man. We agree to disagree. Great thing for me is, I'm a Husker fan and I don't have to watch Beck run this offense anymore. Quote Link to comment
VA Husker2 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 But Tim Beck sucks...Apparently Urban Meyers doesn't know that Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Why do people on here assume that Beck is walking in the door at tOSU and Urb is just going to hand him the keys? Urb will give Beck a specific set of instructions to follow. Urb will also encourage Beck to poach a player or 2 from NU. Quote Link to comment
VA Husker2 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The silence from all the experts on here is hilarious. Beck is terrible and will be lucky to find a job. Lol! He's not calling the plays. He's a glorified position coach. Who cares? He's just as bad as a QB coach as he is a playcaller...why else would Taylor Martinez pay for a private QB coach in the off season? Who said Taylor paid? Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Why do people on here assume that Beck is walking in the door at tOSU and Urb is just going to hand him the keys? Urb will give Beck a specific set of instructions to follow. Urb will also encourage Beck to poach a player or 2 from NU. Considering none of the players on our commit list were recruited by beck he wont have much luck. Not to mention Riley appears to have this class stitched up Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Why do people on here assume that Beck is walking in the door at tOSU and Urb is just going to hand him the keys? Urb will give Beck a specific set of instructions to follow. Urb will also encourage Beck to poach a player or 2 from NU. Considering none of the players on our commit list were recruited by beck he wont have much luck. Not to mention Riley appears to have this class stitched up I'm not talking about this class. I am talking about players on the team Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Who said Taylor paid? I believe there are NCAA rules against a University coaching a player in the off-season. There are a handful of highly sought-after quarterback gurus, and utilizing one doesn't infer failure of the OC. Quote Link to comment
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