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Darkhorse, I think you must've read that about Cruz. Kasich is so far behind that he was long ago mathematically eliminated from reaching 1237 needed to clinch.

 

It's all a moot point, now, anyway. sources report Kasich is dropping out tonight.

 

Congratulations, Republicans. Donald Trump is your 2016 presidential nominee.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

 

No, it was Kasich. What I was trying to say is that he can still prevent Trump from getting to 1237 delegates...he just needs like 70% of the remaining delegates to do so which would in turn make for a brokered convention. I wasn't saying that Kasich can get to 1237.

 

 

Oh ok, I gotcha.

 

I still don't think Kasich could have gotten done. I heard his campaign somehow fumbled the registration process in Oregon and left themselves off the ballot there. So that's another 28 Trump would suck up right there. I'd also be highly skeptical of him being competitive in a 1 on 1 showdown with Trump in California.

 

It is odd how fast this is all progressing. There's definitely a lot of pushback still within the party. It will be interesting to see how he tries to unify the party. I'm skeptical it will happen-- I think a lot will opt to stay at home, vote only down-ballot, or crossover to vote Dem.

 

It ain't all bad, CM. She's doing less damage to your vision of the future for America than Trump, by far. It may make you feel nauseous, but it's the right choice.

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Darkhorse, I think you must've read that about Cruz. Kasich is so far behind that he was long ago mathematically eliminated from reaching 1237 needed to clinch.

 

It's all a moot point, now, anyway. sources report Kasich is dropping out tonight.

 

Congratulations, Republicans. Donald Trump is your 2016 presidential nominee.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

No, it was Kasich. What I was trying to say is that he can still prevent Trump from getting to 1237 delegates...he just needs like 70% of the remaining delegates to do so which would in turn make for a brokered convention. I wasn't saying that Kasich can get to 1237.

Oh ok, I gotcha.

 

I still don't think Kasich could have gotten done. I heard his campaign somehow fumbled the registration process in Oregon and left themselves off the ballot there. So that's another 28 Trump would suck up right there. I'd also be highly skeptical of him being competitive in a 1 on 1 showdown with Trump in California.

 

It is odd how fast this is all progressing. There's definitely a lot of pushback still within the party. It will be interesting to see how he tries to unify the party. I'm skeptical it will happen-- I think a lot will opt to stay at home, vote only down-ballot, or crossover to vote Dem.

 

It ain't all bad, CM. She's doing less damage to your vision of the future for America than Trump, by far. It may make you feel nauseous, but it's the right choice.

No one should stay home. There are other things to vote for besides president.
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Welll I was sure hoping for a contested convention - that somehow the repubs would regain their composure and find a candidate on the 3rd ballot to replace trump and cruz - either of which would have lost to Hillary. I think Cruz would have done better than Trump but he would have been demonized aggressively by the media as well. I was hoping that Kacish would become a conciliatory choice. This will be a media blood bath- this is the match up I think they wanted to set Hillary up to win. There will be so much trash that Trump will have to explain plus the debates will be a nighmare. Trump one on one will be terrible. He won't be able to hide behind cheap campaign slogans.

 

Well who do you think will be the 'sacrificial lamb' chosen as his running mate?

My guess is Jeff Sessions, Senator Alabama who has advised him on military and immigration issues.

 

This article names 22 potential VP choices There are some unusual names on this list. Some throw the mud on the wall names.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article75500237.html

 

I copied the list for ease of discussion.

If he wants to double down

1. Gov. Chris Christie

Trump-Christie ’16: A pair of alpha males from New York-New Jersey. Christie ran a tough-talking, if short-lived, bid for the White House, then shocked the GOP establishment by endorsing the equally macho Trump.

2. Sheriff Joe Arpaio

Picking the Arizona lawman with a reputation for profiling Hispanic immigrants would reinforce Trump’s crowd-pleasing pledge to build “The Wall” and make Mexico pay for it.

3. Sarah Palin

The former Alaska governor, who endorsed Trump early, has become a punchline for late-night TV comics. But she still has a following among many in the Republican base. And she has some experience at this running mate thing.

If he wants to address dismal poll numbers

4. Gov. Susana Martinez

Choosing the governor of New Mexico – a swing state – would signal Trump wants to make up with women and Hispanics. His unfavorable ratings among both are sky-high.

5. Gov. Nikki Haley

Or Trump could play the woman’s card with this rising Republican star. South Carolina is a GOP gimme, but Haley’s deft handling of the Confederate flag issue and her own personal story – the daughter of Indian immigrants who came to the U.S. legally – could bring more voters to the ticket. One question: Can Trump get over her swipe at him in her State of the Union response?

6. Sen. Tim Scott

A hero to conservatives and the only African-American Republican in the Senate, South Carolina’s Scott might help Trump make inroads into the black community – now a Hillary Clinton stronghold she’s counting on to win.

If he wants a Washington insider

7. Newt Gingrich

House speaker in the 1990s, when another Clinton was president, Gingrich has experience going after Hillary and Bill. He could also add some meat to Trump’s thin policy proposals – and help him govern with a conservative agenda if he wins.

8. Sen. Joni Ernst

Another GOP star on the rise, Ernst hails from another swing state – Iowa – and could help Trump on Capitol Hill. She sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee and served in the Gulf War as a lieutenant colonel in the Army National Guard.

9. Gen. James “Mad Dog” Mattis

A 44-year veteran, the retired Marine Corps four-star general could be Trump’s go-to guy if he suddenly becomes commander-in-chief and needs a crash course on the world’s hot spots. Mattis, a former commander of Central Command, is so popular with conservative elites that they’ve launched a campaign to get him to run as a third-party alternative to Trump and Clinton.

If he wants an outsider ticket

10. Dr. Ben Carson

The retired neurosurgeon is still a favorite with conservative Christians, though not enough of them voted for him to keep his run for president alive. His low-key approach contrasts with Trump’s loud style. But they are both political neophytes who could run a campaign to bulldoze the Washington establishment.

11. Franklin Graham

The North Carolina-based evangelist and son of legendary Billy Graham is already on the campaign trail – he’s holding rallies in all 50 states this year to fire up evangelical Christian voters. Graham has no government experience, but he does run two large ministries. And he called for blocking Muslim immigrants months before Trump did.

12. Carl Icahn

On the stump, Trump often mentions his fellow billionaire businessman as a pal who could get things done for his administration – like negotiate a tough deal with China. A New York magnate and investor with a history of hostile takeovers, Icahn could amplify Trump’s sweeping claims that he’ll run the government like a business.

If he wants to unite the Republican Party

13. Sen. Marco Rubio

Trump dismissed him as “Little Marco” when the Florida senator was his opponent. But as he readies a fall campaign, The Donald could use Rubio’s polish, his ties to the Hispanic community, and his support from the GOP establishment.

14. Gov. John Kasich

No Republican has ever won the White House without carrying Ohio. That’s reason enough to make peace with Kasich, one of Trump’s (barely) surviving opponents for the GOP nomination. The Ohio governor also could help Trump appeal to independents and disaffected Democrats.

15. Gov. Scott Walker

Once thought to be the Republican to beat for the party’s 2016 presidential nomination, the Wisconsin governor is still a hero to many conservatives for fighting public employee unions and beating the Democrats in a swing state. A combative campaigner, Walker could also play a role in Trump’s hopes of competing with Clinton in the Rust Belt.

If he wants a celebrity wild card

16. Joe Scarborough

By tapping the host of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Trump would bet that American politics in 2016 has become so celebrity-friendly that the star of a reality TV show can draw huge crowds and beat senators and governors at the polls. And in addition to his household name, Scarborough would bring Washington experience to the ticket: He used to be a GOP congressman from Florida.

17. Clint Eastwood

Yes, the Hollywood actor-director is 85 and bombed at the last Republican convention by conversing with an empty chair on stage. But the star of “Dirty Harry” did serve as mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, Calif. (1986-’88) and Ronald Reagan started as a movie actor, too. Adding Clint to the GOP ticket would make many voters’ day.

18. Jesse “The Body” Ventura

The one-time professional wrestler is a pioneer in the club Trump hopes to join in November: Celebrities who got elected to a top office. In 1998, Ventura ran and won as the Reform Party candidate for governor of Minnesota. He didn’t run for re-election, but he’s stayed on top of political issues and is hosting a TV show – a skill Trump can appreciate.

And if he wants somebody who might actually say yes

19. Scott Brown

Trump himself floated Brown’s name as a possible running mate, telling a New Hampshire crowd in January that the former U.S. senator from Massachusetts would make a “very good” vice president. “And he’s central casting,” added Trump, probably a reference to Brown’s movie-star looks rather than his decision to pose nude for Cosmopolitan magazine in 1982.

20. Sen. Jeff Sessions

The Alabama senator, who shares Trump’s hard-core stand against illegal immigration, is still the only member of the U.S. Senate to endorse Trump. He also advises the campaign. Alabama is a sure win for Trump in November with or without Sessions on the ticket. But with media reports indicating that most GOP senators and governors would refuse a Trump invitation to run with him, Sessions has said he’d be happy to undergo the vetting process to be No. 2 on the ticket.

21. Gov. Mary Fallin

The Oklahoma governor has also reportedly told allies that she is open to the idea of joining Trump for a national race. Trump needs help repairing his breach with women voters, many of whom have been offended by his comments denigrating everybody from Carly Fiorina to FOX News anchor Megyn Kelly.

22. Gov. Rick Scott

Like Trump, the Florida governor is a successful businessman who first got elected without the support of the Republican establishment. Scott’s biggest advantage is where he lives: In recent decades, no Republican has been elected president without carrying swing-state Florida, with its 29 electoral votes. After Trump won the Florida primary this year, Scott endorsed him, saying “the voters have spoken.”

 

 

 

Here is a list of politicians that had endorsed him - I'm sure he's made a deal wt one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

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Guess it's four more years of a democrat in the oval office. The democratic candidate could be a balloon with a face drawn on it and it would beat out Trump. Really the only hope he has is if Bernie runs independently and sabotages Hillary. Hopefully the republican party reinvents itself after this debacle (not that Trump winning the candidacy is the problem, but that over so long the party has let itself get to this point). I'll go ahead and just post this again in regard to Trump taking the candidacy:

 

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Guess I'm voting for Hillary.

 

Never in my wildest nightmares did I think that would be the case

 

That is absolutely sickening...

 

What is it about Trump that you (or anyone else) dislikes so much? I'd love to see a list.

 

Here you go... LIST

 

I found a list of 40 reasons from a conservative site. It took me all of 5 seconds on Google to find this. I could put together my own list, but this seemed much simpler. I guess we could all start adding to it...

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