RADAR Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It's only fair to see what he can do at Nebraska Life's not fair. And "getting called on the carpet" on an internet forum is not exactly bothersome. So, to use a quote you like....."boo hoo". Don't care that Pelini's not here. His direct deposit has him all smiles, I'm sure......and Husker nation is footing every dime. Oh, and Ohio State and Michigan would laugh Riley's resume to the round file. And no, I don't care that he was wanted by USC or Alabama over a decade ago. Good day. You've done a pretty good job pretending to be objective, advocating for balance, and pointing out some hypocrisies, but you totally jumped the shark here, TheSker. Turns out you've had a petty little agenda after all. Not that we didn't know it all along. So please stop pretending that you're rooting for Nebraska. You are positively giddy at the prospect of Mike Riley's team losing. I'm not the first Husker fan not happy with who the coach is the past 15 years.......but you're free to slant that however you wish. It's the internet. I did not, and do not, like the Riley hire. Somebody needs a hug because he doesn't have a team he can root for... 4 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It's only fair to see what he can do at Nebraska Life's not fair. And "getting called on the carpet" on an internet forum is not exactly bothersome. So, to use a quote you like....."boo hoo". Don't care that Pelini's not here. His direct deposit has him all smiles, I'm sure......and Husker nation is footing every dime. Oh, and Ohio State and Michigan would laugh Riley's resume to the round file. And no, I don't care that he was wanted by USC or Alabama over a decade ago. Good day. You've done a pretty good job pretending to be objective, advocating for balance, and pointing out some hypocrisies, but you totally jumped the shark here, TheSker. Turns out you've had a petty little agenda after all. Not that we didn't know it all along. So please stop pretending that you're rooting for Nebraska. You are positively giddy at the prospect of Mike Riley's team losing. I'm not the first Husker fan not happy with who the coach is the past 15 years.......but you're free to slant that however you wish. It's the internet. I did not, and do not, like the Riley hire. No but I'm willing to bet you're the first Husker fan not happy with a coach before he even coached a game. A lot of us, myself included, liked the Bo Pelini hire, which if you're speaking of Michigan and Ohio State laughing at Riley's resume, then I'm assuming they wouldn't even have looked at Bo Pelini's before he was hired here. I think that's what we in the business here like to call a double standard. If they were looking for an experienced coach, which we were, then neither Ohio State nor Michigan would have looked at Pelini.......so I'll opt out of your double standard accusation. If you were looking to move the goal posts, which you were, it only makes your argument seem smaller and sadder. Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It's only fair to see what he can do at Nebraska Life's not fair. And "getting called on the carpet" on an internet forum is not exactly bothersome. So, to use a quote you like....."boo hoo". Don't care that Pelini's not here. His direct deposit has him all smiles, I'm sure......and Husker nation is footing every dime. Oh, and Ohio State and Michigan would laugh Riley's resume to the round file. And no, I don't care that he was wanted by USC or Alabama over a decade ago. Good day. You've done a pretty good job pretending to be objective, advocating for balance, and pointing out some hypocrisies, but you totally jumped the shark here, TheSker. Turns out you've had a petty little agenda after all. Not that we didn't know it all along. So please stop pretending that you're rooting for Nebraska. You are positively giddy at the prospect of Mike Riley's team losing. I'm not the first Husker fan not happy with who the coach is the past 15 years.......but you're free to slant that however you wish. It's the internet. I did not, and do not, like the Riley hire. No but I'm willing to bet you're the first Husker fan not happy with a coach before he even coached a game. A lot of us, myself included, liked the Bo Pelini hire, which if you're speaking of Michigan and Ohio State laughing at Riley's resume, then I'm assuming they wouldn't even have looked at Bo Pelini's before he was hired here. I think that's what we in the business here like to call a double standard. If they were looking for an experienced coach, which we were, then neither Ohio State nor Michigan would have looked at Pelini.......so I'll opt out of your double standard accusation. I've got a couple more suggestions for things you could opt out of.... Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Remember all those college football experts who had no idea what Nebraska was thinking when they hired an under the radar head coach like Mike Riley? Because there weren't very many of them. Rivals.com national recruiting director Mike Farrell tweeted that the hiring is a "home run." "I don't think Huskers fans realize what a well-respected game coach Riley is and how hard it is to win in Corvallis," Farrell wrote. Doug Gottlieb ✔ @GottliebShow Follow If you don't like Mike Riley, that is a your problem. Congrats #Nebraska between Riley&Tim Miles 2of the most liked/respected in their sports Damon Benning @damonbenning Amongst his peers, Mike Riley finished 2nd in an ESPN poll behind Cutcliffe as the most underrated coach in the country. Kirk Herbstreit ✔ @KirkHerbstreit Follow If it's done...great hire by @Huskers getting Mike Riley from Oregon State!! George Schroeder @GeorgeSchroeder · Just landed to news of Mike Riley to Nebraska. Truly stunning — but that is a GREAT hire. Sam Ponder ✔ @sam_ponder Follow LOVE that hire for Nebraska. Handful of coaches I'd want my kid to play for/learn from... Mike Riley's top 5 for sure. 9:46 AM - 4 Dec 2014 Brock Huard @BrockESPN No one in CFB I'd trust more with my son in his program than new NEB Coach Mike Riley. Judge this hire after you see the staff he assembles Scott Shanle @scottshanle After hearing from many people who know Mike Riley personally I am optimistic about the future of @Huskers football. Dan Hoppen @danhoppen Mike Riley was heavily rumored to replace Pete Carroll at USC in 2010, Dennis Franchione at Alabama in 2002. He must like NU’s prospects. Aaron Taylor @outland1997 Gut feeling that Mike Riley will be the Tim Miles for our football program. Congrats coach and welcome to the program. Tom Lemming @LemmingReport Only time will tell but my guess is Mike Riley will bring Nebraska back to national prominence. Joel Klatt ✔ @joelklatt Follow I'm a huge fan of Mike Riley...yes, he is a wonderful person...he is also a GREAT football coach 10:25 AM - 4 Dec 2014 Sean Callahan @Sean_Callahan Another interesting tidbit about Mike Riley is he opened all practices at Oregon State to media and fans. Sean Callahan @Sean_Callahan Also the fact USC courted him in 2011, and Alabama offered him their job in 2002 intrigues me on what drew him to make this move now? Tommie Frazier @TouchdownTommie Good Hire by NU today. Mike Farrell @rivalsmike I may be in the minority here but I like the Riley hire for #Huskers better than the McElwain hire for #Gators. Thoughts? Zach Hannon @_HannonZach72 I stand behind you @Coach_Riley ! I love Coach Bo and all my coaches, now it's a new era. I'm a husker through and through. #GBR Jay Glazer @JayGlazer "@CFBONFOX: NEWS: #Nebraska hires Oregon State's Mike Riley to replace Bo Pelini>>Good for Riley, one of the nicest guys I ever met in NFL Mark McMillian @MarkMcMillian29 If Mike Riley offered my son or any kid I coach I would send them in a heartbeat this man is all about the kids & families #GBR #Nebraska Rich Kaipust @RKaipustOWH I liked this poll back in September because it was a vote of coaching peers -- and Mike Riley scored high on it http://es.pn/1Dc1ACC Brian Christopherson @HuskerExtraBC Remember this when viewing Riley's record at OSU. MT @Hlas Oregon State had 28 straight losing football seasons, from '71 thru '98. Jay Foreman @foreman5655 A few things that will be different:player development and pro off!! That alone I'm cool with! Chips in!#HuskerNation Greg Sharpe @SharpeGreg Excited to meet and work with @Coach_Riley can't wait to begin the next chapter of Husker Football. GBR! John Bishop @JohnBishop71 #Huskers could double Riley's OSU salary and still be on budget with last year. Look for assistant salary pool to be strong. B. Reilly @brandonreilly01 Idk why everyone's being so negative, give the guy a chance. I mean he has a solid last name that should count for something. Let's get it! Jon Nyatawa @JonNyatawa “He has done more with less at Oregon St than almost any coach I know" -- former NU AD Bill Byrne Jeremy Crabtree @jeremycrabtree #Pac12 assistant on Mike Riley: “Our recruiting jobs just got a lot easier. He was the best talent evaluator in the conference by far.” danny woodhead ✔ @danny__woodhead Follow Mike Riley was my coach at the hula bowl and thought he was a great guy #realexcitedaboutthehire 10:20 AM - 4 Dec 2014 Jordan Westerkamp @JordanWesty1 Follow Looking forward to this new experience with @Coach_Riley GBR. 10:37 AM - 4 Dec 2014 Paul Myerberg ✔ @PaulMyerberg Follow Mike Riley is the most optimistic, pleasant, gracious, accommodating HC in CFB. They'll absolutely love him in Nebraska. Michael Rose-Ivey @Rose_IveyNB15 Follow Got a coach finally. Let's get to work. If this is our guy to get us over that hump then I'm all for it! Time to start a new chapter !! Prince Amukamara ✔ @PrinceAmukamara Follow Welcome to the Husker family Coach Mike Riley! Go Big Red! Jay Moore @jaymoore44 Follow Now I'm really liking this hire #Huskers #GBR 10:44 AM - 4 Dec 2014 Dennis Dodd ✔ @dennisdoddcbs Follow MIke Riley was always squeezing blood out of a tomato in Corvallis. More infrastructure at Neb. Love the hire. 9:54 AM - 4 Dec 2014 Mack Brown ✔ @ESPN_CoachMack Follow Mike Riley is a great hire @ Neb. Super fit for both. Good job Huskers 3 Link to comment
drfish Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Don't check in that often, but WOW. Same old conversation. Won't complain about that though, SOS on a message board is like finding that water is wet and fire is hot. I have to agree that it is too early to say much of anything about the current staff, though I have a few observations. 1st about the old staff. I don't think they get enough credit. 9 wins isn't automatic anywhere. If anyplace should have 9 automatically, it would be Meatchickin or that school in Ohio. You can't really argue that the big ten as a whole (or is that "hole") has been that tough, yet neither of those schools had 9 wins every year for the last 7 years. Nor did Wisconsin or MSU (3 years out of last 8 were less than 9). That being said, 9 wins became the mark due to Osborne's tenure. I think a better standard is the fact that he never lost more than 3 games. In that context, with the current schedules, the standard is probably 10 wins. Osborne lost an average of 1.96 games per year. During his first 7 years, he lost an average of 2.5 games per year or 21% or a winning percentage of 79% Pelini lost 29% of his games (not counting his interim game) or a winning percentage of 71%. That really is pretty damn good. However, in the words of said Hall of fame coach, It isn’t just a matter of wins and losses; it’s how you do it. If you lose by a field goal and play well, that’s a little bit different than getting blown out three or four times.... It isn’t all about winning and losing. Believe me, I understand that. If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues....But there was something wrong, evidently. We could have done a lot worse than Pelini, however I think it was abundantly clear that there was something wrong and it did not get better. There have also been several "read between the lines" statements by players that make you go, "Hmmm! Anyway on to the new staff. My initial reaction was WTF. But I have moved beyond that. Positives: The transition seems to have been a fairly smooth one for the players. Kudos to both the player leadership and the new staff, cause the players seemed largely behind Pelini and it could have been problematic. So that is what good tackling looks like. So far TA looks like he could be good at this throwing the ball stuff (though the first game was a bit streaky). Although they let Hill break off some long runs due to containment breakdowns, they have generally looked much better against the run. Have scored on both opening drives and they seem to be doing well at putting TA in a situation where he can be successful. What happened to all the dropped passes? It seems like this staff can make adjustments No whining about "hard to recruit. fan expectation." The staff seem to conduct business in a professional and adult fashion. Concerns: Can they run vs a good defensive front? Pass rush? Man coverage on the outside. I am not concerned about the lack of adjusting to help DD out esp. after reading Banker's comment that we could have, but we were ahead and he is going to see that all season long so he has to learn. Also, I liked the explanation that they would prefer for them to have to through to the outside due to it being a lower percentage throw (I assume he means when defended properly) than across the middle. TA still does some head scratching, WTF, are you channeling your inner Farve moments under pressure. Caveats: There is not enough data to make an informed decision on the likelihood of either success or failure and that will probably still be true for a year or two. We will need to see a larger sample size on recruiting and on development. 1 Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 9 wins did not become the "mark" under Osborne. It was a garbage statistic that i believe was brought first in the nbc intro to the 1994 orange bowl (93 season, bob costas "never a season with less than 9 wins"). After that it was just a garbage number no one talked about or cared about until we had issues reaching that number. Had osborne at some point went 8-4, 8 wins would be the number. But heres where its all bullsh#t. Then, 9 wins was a lowly, substanceless stat. It represented failure. A down year. The minimum allowed. Now its spoke of as the benchmark. Like its the goal. Its a load a crap is what it is. It got to the point where the 9 wins were so empty and meaningless but yet the staff appeared to ride into a sunset of complacency and mediocrity. How do i know this? Easy. I watched the games. Now we do things with the 9 wins in a sick effort to legitimize ourselves in an era of mediocrity, like use it to put ourselves in the same sentence with Bama and oregon, saying things like "well if it was so easy everyone wpuld do it". Id give back all our last 5 seasons of 9 wins to have that last second tick off in dallas in 2009. Same with yhe 29 some game opening win streak. Its just a number. It doesnt legitimize anything. 1 Link to comment
BigRedPowerWagon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Didnt think Thesker was rooting for huskers to fail. Just think he thought nebraska could of hired a better coach is all. Link to comment
Saunders Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Fans are fanatical and that means many times we have unreasonable or unfounded optimism of a sports team. Good lord, why is it fun for some to be pissed and negative all the time? I agree with this, with one caveat. Some people who are taking this stance now, lambasted those who took this stance the last few years. 2 Link to comment
RADAR Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 To put it simply; What we had was failing and what we have is promising. I am looking forward with some positivity again instead of living week to week with dread of what will happen on the football field. 1 Link to comment
Saunders Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I am so sick of "fans" of this team actively rooting for our coaches to fail so they can "prove" to everybody that they were right and knew it all along. Who gives a sh#t if you thought you knew something? I cannot understand it. What is wrong with just rooting for the team and genuinely hoping for success from the coaches? What a sad, pathetic way to follow your favorite team. I can't imagine an absence of all possibility of joy with Nebraska football. That's my view as well. I rooted for Solich, BC, and Bo until the (near) end. I'll do the same with Riley. I just find it amusing how some people are saying this now. Link to comment
Saunders Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 To put it simply; What we had was failing and what we have is promising. I am looking forward with some positivity again instead of living week to week with dread of what will happen on the football field. Agreed! 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think some people get confused with a few things... 1. Not liking the hire doesn't mean you don't love NU 2. You giving off "positive or negative" vibes doesn't impact the game anymore than wearing your "lucky shirt" 3. Rooting or wishing for something doesn't make it happen (right now I am rooting for Kate Upton to get a flat tire in front of my house...of course I will have to google "How to fix a flat tire while in the midst of a raging hardon" but still. 2 Link to comment
RADAR Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think some people get confused with a few things... 1. Not liking the hire doesn't mean you don't love NU Not liking the hire is not what annoys most of us, it is not being willing to acknowledge the building pile of evidence that a lot of things happening in the program are better under Riley, from program positivity, to coaching, to gung-ho recruiting. These things can not be denied and if a fan truly wants Nebraska to be better, he has to be willing to acknowledge that this is happening. There are some here and elsewhere that do not want these thing to occur, because it makes the firing of 408 look like a better idea every day that passes. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think some people get confused with a few things... 1. Not liking the hire doesn't mean you don't love NU 2. You giving off "positive or negative" vibes doesn't impact the game anymore than wearing your "lucky shirt" 3. Rooting or wishing for something doesn't make it happen (right now I am rooting for Kate Upton to get a flat tire in front of my house...of course I will have to google "How to fix a flat tire while in the midst of a raging hardon" but still. There is a big difference between, "hey, I wish we would have hired someone else, I don't think this is going to work out" and putting off an attitude where you constantly have to remind everyone the hire sucks, we suck everyone sucks, we are going to fail...bla bla bla....while not ever acknowledging anything that goes well. And, quite frankly, I would be perfectly happy if the words BOleaver and BOleiver were permanently banned from the site. There are no other words on this board that grate at the other side more and cause more arguments than those. Anyone using them are simply trying to stir the pot and get on other people's nerves. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think some people get confused with a few things... 1. Not liking the hire doesn't mean you don't love NU Not liking the hire is not what annoys most of us, it is not being willing to acknowledge the building pile of evidence that a lot of things happening in the program are better under Riley, from program positivity, to coaching, to gung-ho recruiting. These things can not be denied and if a fan truly wants Nebraska to be better, he has to be willing to acknowledge that this is happening. There are some here and elsewhere that do not want these thing to occur, because it makes the firing of 408 look like a better idea every day that passes. I get it, I really do...but lots of people just want to be an "I told you so" that is the annoying part...both ways. I am pumped with the hire and I bug my buddies that are anti-Riley about it all the time...I am sure they hate me Link to comment
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