The General Election

[HuskermanMike]

It is just stunning and depressing to read Trump supporters repeating the most simplistic propaganda while ignoring the most blatant facts.

 

I have always avoided words like fascism and socialism because they aren't remotely accurate in describing American politics, but I find the sh#t being said at Trump rallies stone-cold chilling, and the potential for outright fascism far closer than I ever imagined in my lifetime.

What are you pointing toward? When people chant his name? when he kicks protestors out of his rallies or when he says he will build a wall thirty times in one rally? In a recent interview with Hannity he told him he is trying to get back to the constitution which I don't entirely believe but what is he doing that makes you dislike him. Also I didnt say fascism once in any of my statements, but I assume you are talking to his supporters in general?

[HuskermanMike]

 

Trump has a lot of interesting things he says, like for instance building a wall or not releasing his tax plan. But lets be real Hillary doesn't know how to run this country, but she will know how to ruin it. She says bill will run the economy, showing us she doesn't know what she is doing. I mean if Bill wants to run again... well he can't and lots of people like him but absolutely don't like her. Trump says great things that make sense, I like his idea to get us to be better in trade, Hillary won't fight for America's rights, Trump also will bring back factories that have left the country. Hillary wants to give illegals rights which could be harmful, and Trump will get rid of people doing bad stuff and prevent other illegals we don't know about. Trump will win this election, he is in my mind the better of the two because if we have 8 or heck four more years of ruining the country it will cost this country greatly. So if you go Hillary that's fine but Trump will turn us toward being in better shape, because this country needs some sort of change. Military needs to be better and jobs are available with tons of unemployed people. My choice is Trump and he will destroy Hillary in Nebraska and hopefully in the general election as well.

Our military needs to be better??? We spend more on our military than anything we spend money on in this country by FAR. Military officials have said many times that they don't need all the money that gets flung at them. If we put 10 percent of what we pay into our military into education we wouldn't have dumb dumb trump equivalent supporters by the time they were old enough to vote.

 

I think we need more people in the military but I still think the military needs to be better and improve in weaponry and number. I do not think it is in total shambles though as we are still the top military in the world. We spend enough on military as I checked and found we spend 596 billion on the military which is enough. And the bolded many people that are voting for him are smart the media likes to say its lower class whites but many smart educated people are voting for him. If you want to insult people for voting for a candidate, that has no place unless you back it up with facts or you simply take it elsewhere on the board. The bolded is biased and not necessarily true here is an article to back that up.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/5-myths-about-trump-supporters-220158

Many people that support him don't have college degrees but a majority of them do, also every citizen has the right to vote no matter education.

[Guy Chamberlin]

If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history, it tends to involve someone blaming foreigners and minorities for a country's declining fortunes, both real and imagined, and uses ethnic nationalism in the guise of patriotism to rile the supposedly oppressed majority to take stupid, violent and counter-productive actions against their best interests.

 

In fairness, I think Donald Trump has no intention of building a wall on the Mexican border. If you stop and think about it for a nano-second, it makes zero sense at any level. Donald Trump relies on people not stopping and thinking.

[HuskermanMike]

If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history, it tends to involve someone blaming foreigners and minorities for a country's declining fortunes, both real and imagined, and uses ethnic nationalism in the guise of patriotism to rile the supposedly oppressed majority to take stupid, violent and counter-productive actions against their best interests.

 

In fairness, I think Donald Trump has no intention of building a wall on the Mexican border. If you stop and think about it for a nano-second, it makes zero sense at any level. Donald Trump relies on people not stopping and thinking.

I have no idea if he will build a wall or not but I totally understand your point. I supported Ted Cruz but have now gone to Trump because after looking at the two I think Trump brings change we need(not necessarily the wall) and Clinton just seems like she will be worse then Obama. This is an important time in our country and we have basically two bad candidates I just go with Trump because I believe in most of what he says compared to Mrs Clinton.

[Army_Allen]

If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history, it tends to involve someone blaming foreigners and minorities for a country's declining fortunes, both real and imagined, and uses ethnic nationalism in the guise of patriotism to rile the supposedly oppressed majority to take stupid, violent and counter-productive actions against their best interests.

 

In fairness, I think Donald Trump has no intention of building a wall on the Mexican border. If you stop and think about it for a nano-second, it makes zero sense at any level. Donald Trump relies on people not stopping and thinking.

I'm going to laugh at the moment he wins the elections, puts on the mic and says, "You idiots actually believed I was a racist, woman hating bigot? Do you not remember that I was a Clinton supporter and avid Democrat?"

 

Not that I want him to be president by a long shot. I can't in good faith pick either of the two projected candidates.

[funhusker]

 

If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history, it tends to involve someone blaming foreigners and minorities for a country's declining fortunes, both real and imagined, and uses ethnic nationalism in the guise of patriotism to rile the supposedly oppressed majority to take stupid, violent and counter-productive actions against their best interests.

 

In fairness, I think Donald Trump has no intention of building a wall on the Mexican border. If you stop and think about it for a nano-second, it makes zero sense at any level. Donald Trump relies on people not stopping and thinking.

I have no idea if he will build a wall or not but I totally understand your point. I supported Ted Cruz but have now gone to Trump because after looking at the two I think Trump brings change we need(not necessarily the wall) and Clinton just seems like she will be worse then Obama. This is an important time in our country and we have basically two bad candidates I just go with Trump because I believe in most of what he says compared to Mrs Clinton.

 

What "change" will Trump bring that we "need"? I've seen/heard variations of this comment many places but no one has ever verbalized them. Not even Trump to my knowledge.

[Guy Chamberlin]

I'm honestly curious: for the people who think Obama has been a disaster, what exactly did he do that prevented you from your own pursuit of life, liberty and happiness?

 

The question at this point is typically "are we better off than we were 8 years ago" and the answer is yes, of course, no question about it. And with genuine collaboration and debate rather than mere obstructionism, it could have been better.

 

The things going wrong with America are many years in the making, involve the exponential growth of income disparity and have been fed by both parties.

 

But it seems pretty clear to me the last thing we need right now is a thin-skinned billionaire who wants to take America back to a time that didn't exist.

[Guy Chamberlin]

If you were willing to spend tens of billions of dollars building a wall on the Mexican border, and the untold billions in Big Government Social Engineering to maintain it forever, rather than investing that money in the American infrastructure, you don't deserve a single vote.

 

Especially when Mexican immigration isn't remotely the problem you're trying to advertise.

 

And the drug cartels find it hilarious that you haven't noticed how well they build tunnels.

[NM11046]

I'm honestly curious: for the people who think Obama has been a disaster, what exactly did he do that prevented you from your own pursuit of life, liberty and happiness?

 

The question at this point is typically "are we better off than we were 8 years ago" and the answer is yes, of course, no question about it. And with genuine collaboration and debate rather than mere obstructionism, it could have been better.

 

The things going wrong with America are many years in the making, involve the exponential growth of income disparity and have been fed by both parties.

 

But it seems pretty clear to me the last thing we need right now is a thin-skinned billionaire who wants to take America back to a time that didn't exist.

What really blows my mind and confuses me are the folks that say he's been negative for race relations ... what the wha?

[zoogs]

It's not completely confusing -- these empty refrains are frequently deployed to hook people to the line running some political ambition or other. When lacking the ability to engage in a serious exchange of ideas, stoking the flames of vacuous anger always has its appeal.

 

We will never run short of undistinguished, unremarkable opportunists trying to wield a "this country is going to hell" movement for themselves. The more subscribers they can get, the closer they are to the power they seek.

[Danny Bateman]

If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history, it tends to involve someone blaming foreigners and minorities for a country's declining fortunes, both real and imagined, and uses ethnic nationalism in the guise of patriotism to rile the supposedly oppressed majority to take stupid, violent and counter-productive actions against their best interests.

 

In fairness, I think Donald Trump has no intention of building a wall on the Mexican border. If you stop and think about it for a nano-second, it makes zero sense at any level. Donald Trump relies on people not stopping and thinking.

 

People usually throw around the F-word trying to be dramatic and make a point, but in this case it fits quite well. Trump's entire campaign is founded on "otherizing" groups dissimilar to whomever he happens to be speaking to and convincing them it's OK to blame them for our current problems. They basically want a scapegoat to point the finger at. The beauty of it is there are plenty of targets at which to point.

 

Regarding tunnels, I just watched Sicario this weekend, so that was definitely timely reference.

 

NM, from what I can gather, people who say that view him as divisive and wielding too much of a racial lens with which he views the world. I think it's preposterous, as I think it's ludicrous to NOT think there are inherent differences, advantages and disadvantages in people's lives due to race, but that's just my worldview. A common refrain for Republicans is that we're all equal and shouldn't be separated by race, which to me fails to address the realities with which we live.

 

But I watched a Trump surrogate use that argument to blame the left for the violence at Trump rallies, so they really do believe it.

[Moiraine]

[zoogs]

Regarding tunnels, I just watched Sicario this weekend, so that was definitely timely reference.

Hey! I rented that recently and am trying to find a weekend to watch it. Hope it's as good as the critics say.

[ZRod]

 

Regarding tunnels, I just watched Sicario this weekend, so that was definitely timely reference.

Hey! I rented that recently and am trying to find a weekend to watch it. Hope it's as good as the critics say.

I'm a pretty harsh critic, but I though it was good. Kinda hard to follow near the end though.

[HuskermanMike]

 

 

If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history, it tends to involve someone blaming foreigners and minorities for a country's declining fortunes, both real and imagined, and uses ethnic nationalism in the guise of patriotism to rile the supposedly oppressed majority to take stupid, violent and counter-productive actions against their best interests.

 

In fairness, I think Donald Trump has no intention of building a wall on the Mexican border. If you stop and think about it for a nano-second, it makes zero sense at any level. Donald Trump relies on people not stopping and thinking.

I have no idea if he will build a wall or not but I totally understand your point. I supported Ted Cruz but have now gone to Trump because after looking at the two I think Trump brings change we need(not necessarily the wall) and Clinton just seems like she will be worse then Obama. This is an important time in our country and we have basically two bad candidates I just go with Trump because I believe in most of what he says compared to Mrs Clinton.

 

What "change" will Trump bring that we "need"? I've seen/heard variations of this comment many places but no one has ever verbalized them. Not even Trump to my knowledge.

 

Well, here is an article on how Trump will change, economy will improve and we will get a new healthcare system, also he will insult many people to get his way. If he has to insult mexico galore to get the US what we want it might actually work. It will definitely be interesting if he does win, what he will do and what he will not do. In fact if he doesn't build the wall, he might not get reelected for lying about that, so he will get the blue print of it done or something and then on the second term(if he wins) completely scratch it. I say he wins this cycle and loses in 2020 unless the democrats run a really bad candidate.

 

Here is the article above its nothing new but you probably know most of this stuff from the media.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/what_will_really_happen_if_donald_trump_is_elected_president_.html