zoogs Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 More Republicans should switch over. Make it a movement! 1 Link to comment
mrandyk Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The Republican party is a sinking ship. It was sinking even without Trump jumping in to force everyone to reconsider their dedication to the party. A putrid candidate like Hillary winning in a landslide will exemplify this. Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The Republican party is a sinking ship. It was sinking even without Trump jumping in to force everyone to reconsider their dedication to the party. A putrid candidate like Hillary winning in a landslide will exemplify this. Nice try...have u seen the chaos the last 2 days in the Democratic party for their rigged system. People are down on both parties, and had the GOP nominated Rubio, Kasich or most others, the GOP would beat Hillary in a landslide Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 More Republicans should switch over. Make it a movement! Same for Democrats. Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 More Republicans should switch over. Make it a movement! Same for Democrats. To the Libertarian Party? Why? Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 More Republicans should switch over. Make it a movement! Same for Democrats. To the Libertarian Party? Why? Because it's been shown that the base of the democratic party is little more than duplicitous cronyism, because the leaders don't actually seem to hold the platform's values, and because our country needs more viable options. Let's not act like the wikipedia definitions of republican/democrat/libertarian/etc. actually apply to the state of the current parties, if you're use of italics was meant as a "Why would people in favor of a bigger government party switch over to one defined by less government and more freedom" kind of thing. 2 Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think the first part is way over the top, the second part is incredibly dubious in accuracy, and the last part quite agreeable. If indeed Democratic party leaders don't hold their platform's values, a staunchly "no government solutions" party is quite obviously *not* the place to be turning. If you have libertarian leanings, that's fine, it's a legitimate viewpoint -- but don't profess to (for example) defend the EPA against GOP fantasies about industry fixing itself, and then throw in for Gary Johnson. If Bernie wanted to mount his own candidacy, he could probably do so. He commands a fierce and passionate support base and he could well create a party out of thin air; he may even do so after November, and secure defections. But there's a reason he's chosen not to, and it's probably because the platform is actually pretty close to his own views. 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 It looks like Trump has gotten a huge bounce from the convention last week. I would expect HIllary to get a bounce this week as well, but not sure where things will end up. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html Trump has also taken the RCP lead and topped 50% in one general election poll for the first time. I know some questioned whether he would get a bounce as some thought the RNC was a mess. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html I disagree. These poll numbers do not include any information post-DNC leak. If anything, things will be a wash, but I think Trump will actually extend his lead. 538 even predicting a Trump victory at this point! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now Yeah i saw that Nate Silver now has Trump in the lead. Hillary is likely to get a bounce herself but it could be tamed by the corruption in the DNC. How can anyone take Hillary and Obama seriously anymore ever when they claim the Gop tries to disenfranchise voters while the Dems do not. I know many of you like watching the poll numbers - according to some published today, Trump saw no real bounce post convention. The people that liked him going in, liked him coming out. Those that were on the fence didn't leave any more likely to vote for him coming out of the convention, so his numbers didn't really move - flat. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-no-post-convention-bounce-donald-trump-n616426 http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-no-post-convention-bounce-donald-trump-n616426 Link to comment
huskerfan2000 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The Republican party is a sinking ship. It was sinking even without Trump jumping in to force everyone to reconsider their dedication to the party. A putrid candidate like Hillary winning in a landslide will exemplify this. Who do you plan to vote for? Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 It looks like Trump has gotten a huge bounce from the convention last week. I would expect HIllary to get a bounce this week as well, but not sure where things will end up. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html Trump has also taken the RCP lead and topped 50% in one general election poll for the first time. I know some questioned whether he would get a bounce as some thought the RNC was a mess. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html I disagree. These poll numbers do not include any information post-DNC leak. If anything, things will be a wash, but I think Trump will actually extend his lead. 538 even predicting a Trump victory at this point! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now Yeah i saw that Nate Silver now has Trump in the lead. Hillary is likely to get a bounce herself but it could be tamed by the corruption in the DNC. How can anyone take Hillary and Obama seriously anymore ever when they claim the Gop tries to disenfranchise voters while the Dems do not. I know many of you like watching the poll numbers - according to some published today, Trump saw no real bounce post convention. The people that liked him going in, liked him coming out. Those that were on the fence didn't leave any more likely to vote for him coming out of the convention, so his numbers didn't really move - flat. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-no-post-convention-bounce-donald-trump-n616426 http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-no-post-convention-bounce-donald-trump-n616426 Trump had gotten a bounce in that poll the week prior as he closed the gap after the Comey decision and VP annoucement. Moreover several new polls show Trump has growm his lead in key battleground states and the RCP average. We will have to wait til the 1st or 2nd week of August to see the net effect of both conventions. Going into the conventions Hillary had a 4 point lead in the RCP average. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 But there's a reason he's chosen not to, and it's probably because the platform is actually pretty close to his own views. Well, he isn't going to because he has gone past the date of getting his name on the state ballots. Link to comment
mrandyk Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The Republican party is a sinking ship. It was sinking even without Trump jumping in to force everyone to reconsider their dedication to the party. A putrid candidate like Hillary winning in a landslide will exemplify this. Who do you plan to vote for? Third party out of protest, but if I were in a state that may swing red or blue or had more than 3 electoral votes I would consider voting Hillary as a vote against Trump. 5 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 http://www.gallup.com/poll/193913/clinton-image-lowest-point-two-decades.aspx?g_source=Election%202016&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles Gallop has Clinton image polling moving in the wrong direction for her and the party. 57% unfavorable. This fund raising ploy won't help either http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-leak-clinton-team-deflected-state-cash-concerns-226191 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 http://www.gallup.com/poll/193913/clinton-image-lowest-point-two-decades.aspx?g_source=Election%202016&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles Gallop has Clinton image polling moving in the wrong direction for her and the party. 57% unfavorable. That certainly isn't a good rating. If there is a brightside, Trump is even worse (61% unfavorable). Link to comment
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