The General Election

[BigRedBuster]

Is there a cliff notes version of that?

[Lil' Red]

It is not accurate to say, as has been reported by a number of liberal 'news' sites, that Hillary received more popular votes than Trump. It is true that they havereported that they have counted more votes for Hillary than they have counted for Trump when totalling all the votes counted across the 50 states and DC. Not all the states count all of their votes. Once the winner is known, counting tends to stop. For example, many absentee ballots are not counted after election day once the winner has been named. There is no reason to count them because once you have 'won' the state, that is all that is required to be determined.

However it is not the total votes counted across the country but rather than candidate who won the most states' electoral votes that wins.

 

That is incorrect. All votes are counted:

The media often will report the projected outcome of the election before all of the ballots are counted. In a close election, the media may report that the outcome cannot be announced until after the absentee ballots are counted. However, all ballots, including absentee ballots, are counted in the final totals for every election - and every vote (absentee or in-person) counts the same.

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[zoogs]

Indeed, all ballots being counted is why Hillary's running lead is now over 2.2 votes. I'm not sure if they're done counting yet or not.

 

Some further refutations:

1. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/philadelphia_voter_fraud_is_it_possible_that_barack_obama_won_100_percent.html

 

2. http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13628/was-there-100-turnout-and-100-obama-support-in-cuyahoga-county-in-2012-preside

 

3. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/upshot/funny-stuff-in-philadelphia-zero-votes-does-not-equal-fraud.html

 

I can see how someone might get taken in by the BS. But hopefully, they can just as easily get off the train when confronted with counter-arguments -- after all, we are reasonable, facts-driven people, not keen on being looped into half-baked conspiracy theories.

[Landlord]

Over 5000 posts in this 'discussion' of the general election. On top of all the other so-called political and or religious or the many other non sports topics. This is just nuts! This is the first I even pulled this one up out of curiosity I guess. Frankly, with the election over with I just wondered what in the heck could possibly be left to talk about on the subject when there are topics politicallly related that are seemingly related to current issues. Still, what the heck do you guys what to discuss politics on a Husker site for?

 

Husker discussion is pretty insignificant lately. Frankly, it has been slow since the football season started. That is just the exact opposite as supposedly we all live for Husker football.. Yet its politics being 'discussed' (I would argue butchered but that gets into partisan considerations).

 

You all need to spend a great deal more time really reading reliable sources and using your rational thinking brains and a good dose of common sense. There is so much liberal fluff and absolute nonsense being written on here it is scary. It would appear so many of you are fake news junkies and are believing so much of it. I suggest you take about ten steps back and seriously ask yourself whether you really think some of the 'facts' you are using to make important judgments on really seem true. There are very few honest and unbiased fact reporting news sources left these days. You have to learn to see beyond the misleading headlines and when it really does seem 'too liberal to be true' it is because it is too liberal to be true. The polls reported before and even after the election were obviously false and misleading.

 

As for the election results:

 

There is a good reason for the electoral college and it has to do with ensuring no states are disenfranchised by the eletion. Each state choses electors to cast the selection vote for President to prevent individual states from having a disproportionate impact on the choice. The electors are allocated based on the federal census counts and NOT the number of votes cast and for whom that may be reported by any individual state representatives. It prevents election fraud or misrepresentation or manipulation. The voters of each state are all assured that their respective share of the population is represented in the choosing of the President.

 

It is not accurate to say, as has been reported by a number of liberal 'news' sites, that Hillary received more popular votes than Trump. It is true that they havereported that they have counted more votes for Hillary than they have counted for Trump when totalling all the votes counted across the 50 states and DC. Not all the states count all of their votes. Once the winner is known, counting tends to stop. For example, many absentee ballots are not counted after election day once the winner has been named. There is no reason to count them because once you have 'won' the state, that is all that is required to be determined.

However it is not the total votes counted across the country but rather than candidate who won the most states' electoral votes that wins.

 

Every candidate knows what it takes to win the Presidency and it is NOT get more votes than the opponent by campaigning in a handful of populous states and generating all your votes there. California can have a 100% turnout and NY a 20% turnout. It doesn't matter. Both states get to cast their respective electoral votes for the President/Vice President accordingly. There are several reasons why this was chosen as the method to pick a President but primary concern was to assure the President was the President of all the several states and not particularly beholding to any handful or a few thereof. To keep the union together, all members must know they are being fairly and justly governed and represented in all things the federal government does. Equal protection of the law and due process and etc.

 

We are now seeing the Democrates attempting to undermine and destroy this fundamental pillar of our representative republic. We are not 'democracy' as such and choose very little in the way of state or federal policy by way of some form of pure popular vote. Again, this is due in large part to the founders and others with a great deal of common sense and intelligence in things political and social and economic understanding that pure democracy (deciding fundamental daily issues via general popular votes leaves too much to chance, misrepresentation and fraud.

 

For example, if we were to allow total popular votes counted for a given candidate to determine the winner, we can full well expect massive conflict over voter fraud, etc. The great majority of states would not believe that California vote numbers were honest and accurate as we could expect California would come up with more votes than they have registered legal voters. There is wide spread acceptance of non-citizens casting votes in California within the sanctuary cities. This is a form of illegal voting and the people of California are being victimized to an extent as a result. But the rest of the country is not so concerned because only California's electoral college votes may be 'stolen' or redirected contrary to the will of Californians (not all Americans). unfortunately, it is not just Cali but other areas (typically cities with highly concentrated populations with majority liberal/Dem leaning voters where we see these kinds of things happening).

 

We saw a few Cleveland/Cayahoga County precints in Ohio vote 100% for Obama in 2004 and 1008. This is obviously fraudulant and could have turned the election in Ohio to favor Obama. Ultimately he may not have won Ohio with a honest vote. We will never know. The system is only as good as the voter ID and other measures taken to assure a true, honest and fair vote in each and every precinct. We know Trump won 2600 of the 3100 counties in the country. That says a great deal about the widespread support and we would only need to look into some of those grossly out of proportion precincts that went way high for Clinton to find a bunch of illegit votes. Just basic common sense and facts.

 

 

 

 

 

Still, what the heck do you guys what to discuss politics on a Husker site for?

 

 

 

lol

[knapplc]

This is the first I even pulled this one up out of curiosity I guess.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Danny Bateman]

Indeed, all ballots being counted is why Hillary's running lead is now over 2.2 votes. I'm not sure if they're done counting yet or not.

 

Some further refutations:

1. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/philadelphia_voter_fraud_is_it_possible_that_barack_obama_won_100_percent.html

 

2. http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13628/was-there-100-turnout-and-100-obama-support-in-cuyahoga-county-in-2012-preside

 

3. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/upshot/funny-stuff-in-philadelphia-zero-votes-does-not-equal-fraud.html

 

I can see how someone might get taken in by the BS. But hopefully, they can just as easily get off the train when confronted with counter-arguments -- after all, we are reasonable, facts-driven people, not keen on being looped into half-baked conspiracy theories.

 

One would hope. Alas, that is not always the case.

[NM11046]

 

This is the first I even pulled this one up out of curiosity I guess.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Classic. Thanks for the indisputable evidence.

 

But of course, it may be fake evidence. It probably comes from some "liberal" leaning source - I feel sorry for you that you and your simple mind would be so naive to accept this information as fact instead of reading into it, and going to some right wing data source and finding out that 84 has really never logged onto this site, much less post --- and he certainly has never frequented the Politics section with lengthy posts of nonsense and propaganda from Fox and Breitbart.

 

In fact - Kelly Conway said just today that Mitt Romney is a bad man, and 84 is potentially under consideration for SOS or Communications director (because of his ability to take simple untruths and make a long, rambling and condescending posts that are 5-12 paragraphs long on a football website).

[zoogs]

HB is a well-known leftist rag. I don't read anything posted from there, personally.

[ZRod]

 

This is the first I even pulled this one up out of curiosity I guess.

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Any way to get a word count? Or see how many were less than 2 paragraphs?

 

Actually the percentage of words in those 5 posts compared to the entire number of words in the thread maybe be interesting...

[knapplc]

There might be. I'd have to be in front of a computer to check, though. Way better controls on a desktop than mobile.

[knapplc]

 

 

This is the first I even pulled this one up out of curiosity I guess.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Any way to get a word count? Or see how many were less than 2 paragraphs?

 

Actually the percentage of words in those 5 posts compared to the entire number of words in the thread maybe be interesting...

 

 

In the four substantive posts before the one on this page, there were 838 words, 4,136 characters, 10 paragraphs and 67 lines.

 

In those four posts he has called Hillary:

 

Weasel

Afraid

Evil Woman

False

Criminal

Slick

Evil Witch

Diabolical

The Witch Bitch

 

He called Bernie Sanders:

A Socialist Coot

 

He called Trump:

A Loud Mouth

 

 

I typically don't read his posts. Cruising through these four is a reminder why I stopped in the first place. I can't imagine why anyone thinks this kind of discourse is appropriate for this forum. Based on past precedent, at least the moderation I've been involved in, I cannot imagine why this person is allowed to post here with comments like this.

[Landlord]

Well, it seems that he has been scared off from posting here since being exposed for having posted in here.

 

 

 

Go Knapp!

[Moiraine]

Trump should be impeached for this.


http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-seems-way-behind-on-intelligence-breifings-and-national-security-appointments-2016-11

Trump on Tuesday received only his third intelligence briefing since he won the Nov. 8 presidential election, despite an offer from President Barack Obama of daily briefings, three of the officials said.

Vice President-elect Mike Pence has been receiving intelligence briefings daily or nearly every day, one of the officials said.

 

Don't like Pence but at least he's not a complete dumbsh*t.


First time there's a terrorist attack under Trump, he'll pretend it has nothing to do with this and say it was Obama's fault because he founded ISIS.

[Whistlebritches]

Well this tweet pretty much speaks for itself.

 

[zoogs]

Good for the Greens, I guess.