Gun Control

[Lorewarn]

29 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

Everyone is broken to great extent.  Zero exempt.  It's the root of the world's problems.  

 

Have murders stopped once bazookas were banned?  What bazooka has hopped off a shelf and blown something else up?  What inanimate object has murdered someone on its own accord?   

 

Gun violence is a SYMPTOM.  Addressing a SYMPTOM never solves the root of an issue.  Banning bazookas 100 years ago didn't stop murders.  It looked at a SYMPTOM.  And failed to solve the issue.  The root cause is people taking to evil.  

 

You want to stop a SYMPTOM of gun violence.  What is the cause?  Guns?  Your Think Tank has established its overwhelming support for a system that looks to expose children to over-sexualized content and has normalized depravity.  There's no "theoretical" to it.  It's happening.  And then some of these morally bankrupt are making decisions that it's time for others to die.

 

Sickness...and sickening.   

 

 

How is gun violence a symptom but pornographic books in school libraries isn't a symptom?

 

Or, put another way, since you'll probably say they're both symptoms, why do you dismiss people's addressing of the symptom of gun violence as not solving any issue, but propose addressing the symptom of pornographic books as if it will solve an issue? 

[DefenderAO]

1 minute ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

How is gun violence a symptom but pornographic books in school libraries isn't a symptom?

 

Or, put another way, since you'll probably say they're both symptoms, why do you dismiss people's addressing of the symptom of gun violence as not solving any issue, but propose addressing the symptom of pornographic books as if it will solve an issue? 

  

Indeed, both are symptoms.  

 

The root is broken people who take to evil.   

 

Does removing guns stop murder?  Does removing AR's address the predominance of the current gun violence?  

 

What educational value do you see pornographic material being displayed in all grade schools' libraries, namely in elementary and Jr High?

 

My contention - America is in a state of steep moral decline.  Moral relativism being a catalyst.  

 

Do you find it just coincidence that violence also seems to be on the rise given the current moral codes (agenda) this country is advocating?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[funhusker]

4 hours ago, DefenderAO said:

  

Indeed, both are symptoms.  

 

The root is broken people who take to evil.   

 

Does removing guns stop murder?  Does removing AR's address the predominance of the current gun violence?  

 

What educational value do you see pornographic material being displayed in all grade schools' libraries, namely in elementary and Jr High?

 

My contention - America is in a state of steep moral decline.  Moral relativism being a catalyst.  

 

Do you find it just coincidence that violence also seems to be on the rise given the current moral codes (agenda) this country is advocating?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No one here has ever seriously advocated for porn in school libraries or even public libraries.  Yes, there are most likely some books on shelves in elementary and middle schools that shouldn't be.  This can be solved with simple conversations with parents, teachers and librarians.  There is no need to manufacture a nationals crisis.

 

But since we are in the Gun Control thread: if removing bazookas won't stop murder, why should we even care to remove porn from libraries (if it were there) if it won't stop rape or any other sexual evil that you see?

 

You have typed a lot of words, but we are all still exactly where we were a month ago when you started posting in this thread.  Kinda par for the course for this place, I guess...

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

[Lorewarn]

9 hours ago, DefenderAO said:

  Does removing guns stop murder?  Does removing AR's address the predominance of the current gun violence?  

 

 

Does removing alleged porn from school libraries stop murder or gun violence or moral decline? After all,

 

 

10 hours ago, DefenderAO said:

Addressing a SYMPTOM never solves the root of an issue.

 

[funhusker]

19 minutes ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Does removing alleged porn from school libraries stop murder or gun violence or moral decline? After all,

 

 

 

It's amazing that a simple "yes or no" question will only be addressed with a couple paragraphs of big words and philosophical word salads and never be close to answered.

 

...if it's addressed at all.

[DefenderAO]

5 hours ago, funhusker said:

No one here has ever seriously advocated for porn in school libraries or even public libraries.  Yes, there are most likely some books on shelves in elementary and middle schools that shouldn't be.  This can be solved with simple conversations with parents, teachers and librarians.  There is no need to manufacture a nationals crisis.

 

But since we are in the Gun Control thread: if removing bazookas won't stop murder, why should we even care to remove porn from libraries (if it were there) if it won't stop rape or any other sexual evil that you see?

 

You have typed a lot of words, but we are all still exactly where we were a month ago when you started posting in this thread.  Kinda par for the course for this place, I guess...

 

 

 

We've established there's little common ground on what is considered "health," reform, sexually explicit, or good and evil.  What I've called sexually explicit, many call harmless.  How can you walk a direction together when each side can't agree on what is North?

[Guy Chamberlin]

5 hours ago, funhusker said:

No one here has ever seriously advocated for porn in school libraries or even public libraries.  Yes, there are most likely some books on shelves in elementary and middle schools that shouldn't be.  This can be solved with simple conversations with parents, teachers and librarians.  There is no need to manufacture a nationals crisis.

 

 

Keeping in mind that morality activists have already defined pornography as Michelangelo's David. 

[DefenderAO]

40 minutes ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Does removing alleged porn from school libraries stop murder or gun violence or moral decline? After all,

 

 

 

 

So you support perverse, sexually charged content for children and don't like guns?  You don't see how the former could lead, at best, confusion, and at worst, perversion, for these kids?

 

 

[JJ Husker]

4 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Keeping in mind that morality activists have already defined pornography as Michelangelo's David. 

And to think it was considered a work of art until recently.  Talk about relativism (to use a certain poster’s favored word).

 

They are just creating stuff to bolster their self designed culture war…..and the base is gulping it down.

[JJ Husker]

2 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

 

So you support perverse, sexually charged content for children and don't like guns?  You don't see how the former could lead, at best, confusion, and at worst, perversion, for these kids?

 

 

I guess we can chalk up reading comprehension as another issue for some. 

[funhusker]

25 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

 

We've established there's little common ground on what is considered "health," reform, sexually explicit, or good and evil.  What I've called sexually explicit, many call harmless.  How can you walk a direction together when each side can't agree on what is North?

We can’t.

 

You go your way, the rest of us will go ours.

[funhusker]

7 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

 

So you support perverse, sexually charged content for children and don't like guns?  You don't see how the former could lead, at best, confusion, and at worst, perversion, for these kids?

 

 

Told ya, everybody!!!

 

[BigRedBuster]

51 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

 

We've established there's little common ground on what is considered "health," reform, sexually explicit, or good and evil.  What I've called sexually explicit, many call harmless.  How can you walk a direction together when each side can't agree on what is North?

And, this is where your problem is.  I don't have the right to impose my beliefs on what is moral and right on you and you don't have the right to do it to me, unless we are harming someone else.  That's how a diverse society works.  And, when you talk in absolutes of what should NOT be allowed in society solely based on what you believe is immoral, well.....that's where your conversation becomes impossible to have.

[Lorewarn]

46 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

So you support perverse, sexually charged content for children and don't like guns?  You don't see how the former could lead, at best, confusion, and at worst, perversion, for these kids?

 

 

I didn't say that, I asked you a question that you didn't answer.

 

Does removing alleged porn from school libraries stop murder or gun violence or moral decline?