Minnesota is about to have a better coach than us

[southernoregonhusker]

Say what you want about me, but today is the perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about. Not only are we missing out on top targets, but we're losing them to Riley's previous school, where he supposedly had no resources. It's embarrassing.

You're trying really hard, but you're still failing. OSU opened up a state of the art lockerroom this season and they've also added to the stadium and practice facilities. Andersen is benefitting from Riley's hard work at OSU.

[ColoradoHusk]

 

 

Say what you want about me, but today is the perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about. Not only are we missing out on top targets, but we're losing them to Riley's previous school, where he supposedly had no resources. It's embarrassing.

You're trying really hard, but you're still failing. OSU opened up a state of the art lockerroom this season and they've also added to the stadium and practice facilities. Andersen is benefitting from Riley's hard work at OSU.

Do you wonder why the Oregon State alums all of a sudden opened up their checkbooks right after Riley left? It's like they didn't want to invest in an old coach and all of his old assistant coaches, but were willing to invest in the new coach.

[southernoregonhusker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PJ Fleck

 

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Looks to be just above .500 to me. Time will tell. The MAC isn't the B1G.

It is like the same % as Riley...

He also had a sweet 1-11 record

What the numbers don't tell you is he inherited a complete mess. Recruited a bunch of kids and played a ton of them in that 1-11 season as freshmen. Look where they ended up as seniors. The 13-1 season is not a fluke. He built the team his way, in his vision, and created a culture the kids believed in and the community believes in. Trust me, I've lived in Kalamazoo for 25 years, and I am a WMU alum. He has done amazing things with the program in a very short time.

The community loves him there, don't they?

They really do, he really embraced the community and got them totally involved in his culture. It has been a really cool thing to watch evolve.

Riley at OSU was very similar to Snyder at Kansas State. Programs with horrible histories that each built up and coached through their best stretches ever.

Except that Dennis Erickson led Oregon State to their 2 best years when Riley was coaching in the NFL.

Look at their history as a whole and Riley was responsible for a majority of the better seasons

Riley went 3-8 and 5-6 in '97 and '98 in his 2 years at Oregon State before getting the Chargers job. Erickson then had 3 winning seasons in 4 years, including a 11-1 season in 2000. Riley came back to Oregon State after Erickson left for the NFL, and did a good job of maintaining the winning at Oregon State, but still never reached the heights Erickson did. Riley was 1-2 years away from being fired at Oregon State if NU hadn't hired him The comparison to Bill Snyder is laughable.

 

Listen to an OSU grad. That 5-6 season was the best we had in years. We were excited as hell. Erickson came in and won with Riley's recruits. He also won with very questionable juco players and embarrassed the program. That Fiesta Bowl win over Notre Dame was embarrassing. I forget the number, but there were double digit personal foul penalties in that game. Riley came back and kept us happy.

 

Your assertion that Riley was going to get fired is totally bogus. Even if they wanted to fire him, they couldn't buy out his contract. This was well known. Were we ticked with Riley? Absolutely. He had a lot of years on his contract and it felt like he stopped trying. He also wouldn't fire Banker which was a bone of contention with the fan base.

 

I went to OSU from 1989-1992. We went 4-7, 1-10, 1-10, 1-9. After that, we went 4-7, 4-7, 1-10, and 2-9. Then Riley took over. I'd say comparing Riley to Snyder is legit.

 

BTW, Erickson went 5-6 the season after winning the Fiesta Bowl. All was not roses for him.

[southernoregonhusker]

 

 

Say what you want about me, but today is the perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about. Not only are we missing out on top targets, but we're losing them to Riley's previous school, where he supposedly had no resources. It's embarrassing.

You're trying really hard, but you're still failing. OSU opened up a state of the art lockerroom this season and they've also added to the stadium and practice facilities. Andersen is benefitting from Riley's hard work at OSU.

Do you wonder why the Oregon State alums all of a sudden opened up their checkbooks right after Riley left? It's like they didn't want to invest in an old coach and all of his old assistant coaches, but were willing to invest in the new coach.

 

They've always had the money. They finally got around to spending it. They surpassed a billion dollars while Riley was still there.

[TheSker]

I'd say comparing Riley to Snyder is legit.

 

 

 

Not.Even.Close.

 

In 1998, K-State under Snyder was the Texas A&M loss away from a possible national championship appearance.

 

And Snyder has actually won conference titles. In comparison, Riley has never even played in a conference championship game.

 

I'm not a K-State or Snyder apologist, but Snyder is a hall of fame coach. Riley is nowhere.....absolutely nowhere......close to that.

[ColoradoHusk]

 

 

I'd say comparing Riley to Snyder is legit.

 

 

 

Not.Even.Close.

 

In 1998, K-State under Snyder was the Texas A&M loss away from a possible national championship appearance.

 

And Snyder has actually won conference titles. In comparison, Riley has never even played in a conference championship game.

 

I'm not a K-State or Snyder apologist, but Snyder is a hall of fame coach. Riley is nowhere.....absolutely nowhere......close to that.

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[lo country]

 

 

I'd say comparing Riley to Snyder is legit.

 

 

 

Not.Even.Close.

 

In 1998, K-State under Snyder was the Texas A&M loss away from a possible national championship appearance.

 

And Snyder has actually won conference titles. In comparison, Riley has never even played in a conference championship game.

 

I'm not a K-State or Snyder apologist, but Snyder is a hall of fame coach. Riley is nowhere.....absolutely nowhere......close to that.

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Truth

[I am GLORIOUS]

 

 

Say what you want about me, but today is the perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about. Not only are we missing out on top targets, but we're losing them to Riley's previous school, where he supposedly had no resources. It's embarrassing.

You're trying really hard, but you're still failing. OSU opened up a state of the art lockerroom this season and they've also added to the stadium and practice facilities. Andersen is benefitting from Riley's hard work at OSU.

You can use whatever excuses you want. Bottom line is, we lost out to two of our top WR targets to Oregon State. OREGON STATE!

[Nebfanatic]

I'm not sure why people are arguing OSU history and such with an OSU alum? Who do you think has a better perspective on OSU'S situation and Riley's impact on their program?

[ColoradoHusk]

I'm not sure why people are arguing OSU history and such with an OSU alum? Who do you think has a better perspective on OSU'S situation and Riley's impact on their program?

And he might be a bit biased, as well.

[Redux]

I'm not sure why people are arguing OSU history and such with an OSU alum? Who do you think has a better perspective on OSU'S situation and Riley's impact on their program?

Because he knows best....he's GLORIOUS!

[Elf]

 

I'm not sure why people are arguing OSU history and such with an OSU alum? Who do you think has a better perspective on OSU'S situation and Riley's impact on their program?

And he might be a bit biased, as well.

 

To one degree or another, who isn't?

 

In this case he offers a perspective none of the rest of us have, or could have. When it comes to Oregon St, I'll give him the nod most likely.

[southernoregonhusker]

 

I'm not sure why people are arguing OSU history and such with an OSU alum? Who do you think has a better perspective on OSU'S situation and Riley's impact on their program?

And he might be a bit biased, as well.

 

I wanted Riley fired myself. Imagine my happiness and then shock when I heard he left my alma mater for my favorite program. A lot of my friends gave me a bad time for that.

[2ndNnine]

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