commando Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Redux said: "Yeah, they may all be bad, but Trump is the worst even though he's only been in Washington 3yrs and the career politicians have been there for 100!! But we need to JUST focus on Trump and if you call them all criminals you must think we should ignore all the corruption or you must be a Trumper!" if you truly believe that they are all crooks....would it be fair to say that you would be in favor of an armed rebellion to remove them all? if they are all crooks and they have control of the system that seems to be the only way to remove them...right? Link to comment
funhusker Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Redux said: Yes, that's what I said. Where was my misunderstanding? Posted 11 hours ago 15 hours ago, Redux said: So nobody thinks the Democrats have come out of this looking desperate? Forget the fact Trump probably did a bunch of bad s#!t that deserves removal for a second and look at this thing as a whole. Does this actually look like a well thought out, well executed plan? Or does it look like a glorified witch hunt with a half assed cast of characters. You’re right. If I forget about all the bad things he’s done, he’s really not a bad guy. AYFKM??? 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, QMany said: We are in wacko world. Honestly if any other President would have done what Trump did and try to influence the elections, again, I don't think they would have the balls to pull it off like Trump. Every single one of our past Presidents would have been too remorseful to purposely mislead and twist the facts to play to their base. I honestly believe any other President in our history if caught this deep in doodoo would have resigned. We know Trump won't and that's what makes him so dangerous and impeachment to the end so important. 2 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 People who act like this isn't a big deal need to realize they didn't impeach Trump for doing essentially the same thing (QPQ with aid to Ukraine) to obstruct the Mueller investigation. This obviously rises to another level of corruption that must be dealt with 3 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Redux said: "Yeah, they may all be bad, but Trump is the worst even though he's only been in Washington 3yrs and the career politicians have been there for 100!! But we need to JUST focus on Trump and if you call them all criminals you must think we should ignore all the corruption or you must be a Trumper!" Another thing. By your posts, I have to assume that you vote mostly straight Republican. So.....about half the people in that picture are Republican. So, you happily vote and support the crooks you have voted for? Why? 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: People who act like this isn't a big deal need to realize they didn't impeach Trump for doing essentially the same thing (QPQ with aid to Ukraine) to obstruct the Mueller investigation. This obviously rises to another level of corruption that must be dealt with While I certainly believe that was the case, I don't think we have the evidence we do with this episode of QPQ. It is easy to infer military support (Javelins) was tied to shutting out Mueller, but there wasn't the Whisteblower, call transcript, paper trail, TV interviews, etc. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, QMany said: While I certainly believe that was the case, I don't think we have the evidence we do with this episode of QPQ. It is easy to infer military support (Javelins) was tied to shutting out Mueller, but there wasn't the Whisteblower, call transcript, paper trail, TV interviews, etc. I'm sure it's there if digging was done. That said it obviously didn't concern anyone enough to blow the whistle. That's my point. He has done this that and the other yet this was the incident that made someone feel like they needed to do something. That says to me the gravity of what happened is pretty significant Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Oh the Irony to Maria's last sentence that Trump quoted. 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, QMany said: 2 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Redux said: "Yeah, they may all be bad, but Trump is the worst even though he's only been in Washington 3yrs and the career politicians have been there for 100!! But we need to JUST focus on Trump and if you call them all criminals you must think we should ignore all the corruption or you must be a Trumper!" Come on lets be honest. You couldnt care less about corruption. Youve already admitted you hate the uncorrupted ones. I think you used the word “dumbass” to describe AOC. You are right wing through and through, its okay to admit. The problem is in this case, there is a part of the left that is trying to do something about the corruption on the democrat side, but because they one are on the left, you dont really care. Make up your mind. If the thing you are against most is corruption, you would commend these people instead of berate them, even if you are against their policies. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Multiple members of Congress on both sides of the aisle are currently under investigation for various allegations. This idea that Trump is the only one being held accountable for something everyone does is false. 2 Link to comment
QMany Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Let's not forget, Trump stood on the White House lawn and asked China to investigate the Bidens! Even without the clear-cut QPQ of the Ukraine saga, that is still an impeachable abuse of power. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, QMany said: Let's not forget, Trump stood on the White House lawn and asked China to investigate the Bidens! Even without the clear-cut QPQ of the Ukraine saga, that is still an impeachable abuse of power. It's all clear cut people just willfully ignore it Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 There are people in this thread defending Donald Trump. Absolutely amazing. 4 Link to comment
QMany Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: There are people in this thread defending Donald Trump. Absolutely amazing. My favorite farce is "Donald Trump was worried about corruption." 2 Link to comment
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