The First Trump Impeachment Thread

[ZRod]

11 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

And the Mueller report on the Russia hoax was 6 months ago, the 25th Amendment floated about 18, the emoluments theory lawsuit @2 yrs, faithless electors attempt right after the election.  It's clear the establishment will try to end Trump by any means necessary no matter how times it's rebranded. 

Did you read the Mueller report??? Because it's pretty... Not good for Trump. It's also highly redacted. Trump's defense Secretary, Personal Lawyer, Campaign Manager, and various other people including Roger Stone have been convicted of various crimes related to the investigation with more trials ongoing.

 

It's also alarmingly clear that Mueller was unable to thoroughly conduct his investigation because of obstruction by team Trump. Jr and Kushner were not charged with conspiracy, only because of how ticky tacky it is to prove monetary gain about receiving campaign info illegally. Mueller also played by the rules and did not charge the sitting president, but left it to Barr who is equally as corrupt as Trump at this point, and Barr flat out lied to the public about the conclusions of the report.

 

Wake up!!!

[BigRedBuster]

20 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

And the Mueller report on the Russia hoax was 6 months ago, the 25th Amendment floated about 18, the emoluments theory lawsuit @2 yrs, faithless electors attempt right after the election.  It's clear the establishment will try to end Trump by any means necessary no matter how times it's rebranded. 

Interesting. So, you don't believe Russia interfered in our election.  OR....you support that interference.

Which do you prefer?

[Redux]

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Here's an idea.  Stop assuming anyone on here is a "lib" and I'll stop assuming you're a straight line Republican.  K?

 

Lol no you wont 

[schriznoeder]

5 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

Multiple members of Congress on both sides of the aisle are currently under investigation for various allegations. This idea that Trump is the only one being held accountable for something everyone does is false.

 

Speaking of which...

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

21 minutes ago, schriznoeder said:

 

Speaking of which...

 

 

so....the witches were really witches?

 

who would’a thunk it?

[BigRedBuster]

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

who ‘da thunk it????

[Guy Chamberlin]

3 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

And the Mueller report on the Russia hoax was 6 months ago, the 25th Amendment floated about 18, the emoluments theory lawsuit @2 yrs, faithless electors attempt right after the election.  It's clear the establishment will try to end Trump by any means necessary no matter how times it's rebranded. 

 

Did you actually use the words "Russia Hoax?"

 

Is that how far you've fallen off the map?

[NM11046]

On 12/1/2019 at 10:17 PM, Frott Scost said:

 
Pelosi said it will be limited to Ukraine investigation. 

I think its still pretty fluid.

 

 

[TGHusker]

Judge Nap - again says Trump is worthy of impeachment and says Trump underestimates the political consequences of not having his lawyers at the hearing this week. 

 

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-napolitano-calls-trump-impeachment-strategy-very-unwise-cant-argue-process-is-unfair-if-he-doesnt-send-lawyers/

 

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Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano struck out at President Donald Trump’s decision to not send lawyers to an upcoming impeachment hearing, calling the move “very unwise.”

“I am curious what you make of the fact that the president might want to skip out on this Judiciary Committee opening hearing and maybe others to follow, because it is essentially a Kangaroo court or it’s not fair,” Neil Cavuto said on Your World Monday.

“The rules about which the president are complaining were written by a Republican House of Representatives in 2015. The president would be very unwise not to send lawyers there,” Napolitano responded.

“The Democrats are not doing anything that the Democrats did not do to Nixon or the Republicans didn’t do the Bill Clinton. But I think he makes a mistake when he refuses to participate. It is a valid vote by the House of Representatives that authorized this,” he continued. “He also loses the argument that it’s unfair if he doesn’t take the opportunity to participate himself.”

Napolitano again defended his belief that Trump’s actions have merited impeachment.

“In my view, it is clearly impeachable because it involves two potential crimes,” Napolitano said. “The crime of bribery … which is defined as the failure to do an official act, release the $391 million, until a favor comes your way: not conduct an investigation, announce the existence of an investigation of Joe Biden. The other crime is asking for campaign aide from a foreign national. That’s a crime in and of itself, just asking.”

“They are free to say that’s not an impeachable offense, but they are not free to say it didn’t happen, because the evidence that it happened is overwhelming,” he said.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

Dadgummit.....if Trump says it enough, it has to be true.....right?
 

 

[knapplc]

For those of you defending Trump - these are his associates convicted in relation to the Mueller investigation:

 

Michael Cohen - Trump's personal attorney

Michael Flynn - Trump's national security adviser

Paul Manafort - Trump campaign chairman

Rick Gates - Trump campaign official

George Papadopoulos - Trump campaign adviser

Roger Stone - Trump Campaign advisor and friend

 

You cannot in good faith call it a "hoax" or a "witch hunt" when it produces these results.

 

You also cannot in good faith defend a person who would employ this many criminals in his tight circle of associates.

 

You also cannot "yeah but Hunter Biden" these convictions away. 

 

Own the fact that this is the kind of person you're defending, and that you're going to vote for him again. Stop pretending.

[BigRedBuster]

@Redux and @Notre Dame Joe 

 

So.....why do you support a Whitehouse that actively promotes conspiracy theories that our own intelligence community has debunked....but....Putin promotes?

Just wondering.

 

 

[commando]

so trump says the ukranians are corrupt and out to get him....that they were the ones who colluded with the clintons against him and interfered in the election, not russia.    but he wants them to conduct the investigation into the bidens.  somehow that just doesn't make any sense to me.

[ZRod]

13 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

@Redux and @Notre Dame Joe 

 

So.....why do you support a Whitehouse that actively promotes conspiracy theories that our own intelligence community has debunked....but....Putin promotes?

Just wondering.

 

 

Pretty sure Reduce doesn't support this administration. His biggest issue is that it's supposedly pointless to prosecute illegal corruption because of all the legal corrupt.