NM11046 Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/18/james-comey-trump-special-prosecutor-robert-mueller-fbi-215154 Fascinating read on Mueller and Comey. Excellent Zoogs - thank you. I had no idea about this incident. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sooooooooooooo... 75% chance Trump does it anyway? 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 That could explain why Trump is so adamant that there were several million fraudulent votes in the election, even though no credible source has confirmed even a fraction of that number. If he knows his buddies the Russians are prepared to make that statement come true, he'd be emboldened to run his mouth off about it. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/874595387012780032 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/874597708186693632 I remember hearing about them hacking or trying to hack into voter lists and it was about the same time I had registered to vote online. This would be a huge problem. You would have registered people showing up to vote and then turned away because they'd been deleted. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Exactly. And I heard a lot of that online during the election... people claiming they showed up and somehow their registration was incorrect and they weren't able to vote. That's obviously anecdotal and I can't verify, but if that really did happen to even one person... All the more reason to support same-day voter registration so people don't get sent home unable to vote. Heck, make Election Day a holiday while you're at it. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 It's stupid that it's not a holiday. Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Voting Day should be a holiday Voting Day should be on the weekend Everyone over the age of 18 should automatically be registered Voting IDs should be given, free, to everyone on their 18th birthday You should be required to show that ID when you vote 5 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Voting Day should be a holiday Voting Day should be on the weekend Everyone over the age of 18 should automatically be registered Voting IDs should be given, free, to everyone on their 18th birthday You should be required to show that ID when you vote Nothing to argue with here. Heck of a lot better than the 3-5 pieces of ID I've read about some folks needing to get registered. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Voting Day should be a holiday Voting Day should be on the weekend Everyone over the age of 18 should automatically be registered Voting IDs should be given, free, to everyone on their 18th birthday You should be required to show that ID when you vote Agree 100%. The vote should be sacred enough to prevent fraudulent voters - thus the ID. But the ID should be automatic so as to not prevent restriction of the vote by any state legislature or any other arm of govt. Holiday at minimum but on weekend to provide better access and make it a 2 day event to insure max turnout. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 It would be political suicide for him to fire Mueller at this point via the assistant AG. I'm thinking the AAG would resign under those orders and as Dude mentions we have the Sat Night Massacre all over again - it would be very eerily familiar. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/18/james-comey-trump-special-prosecutor-robert-mueller-fbi-215154 Fascinating read on Mueller and Comey. Wow. What a read. Trump is out of his league. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Someone may have posted this already but - 39 states were hacked by the Russians per this article https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported. In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said. The scope and sophistication so concerned Obama administration officials that they took an unprecedented step -- complaining directly to Moscow over a modern-day “red phone.” In October, two of the people said, the White House contacted the Kremlin on the back channel to offer detailed documents of what it said was Russia’s role in election meddling and to warn that the attacks risked setting off a broader conflict. Unwinding the Twists, Turns in Trump-Russia Probe: QuickTake Q&A The new details, buttressed by a classified National Security Agency document recently disclosed by the Intercept, show the scope of alleged hacking that federal investigators are scrutinizing as they look into whether Trump campaign officials may have colluded in the efforts. But they also paint a worrisome picture for future elections: The newest portrayal of potentially deep vulnerabilities in the U.S.’s patchwork of voting technologies comes less than a week after former FBI Director James Comey warned Congress that Moscow isn’t done meddling. “They’re coming after America,” Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee investigating Russian interference in the election. “They will be back.” A spokeswoman for the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Washington declined to comment on the agency’s probe. Kremlin DenialsRussian officials have publicly denied any role in cyber attacks connected to the U.S. elections, including a massive “spear phishing” effort that compromised Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee, among hundreds of other groups. President Vladimir Putin said in recent comments to reporters that criminals inside the country could have been involved without having been sanctioned by the Russian government. One of the mysteries about the 2016 presidential election is why Russian intelligence, after gaining access to state and local systems, didn’t try to disrupt the vote. One possibility is that the American warning was effective. Another former senior U.S. official, who asked for anonymity to discuss the classified U.S. probe into pre-election hacking, said a more likely explanation is that several months of hacking failed to give the attackers the access they needed to master America’s disparate voting systems spread across more than 7,000 local jurisdictions. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 What's the word for cozying up to Russia in response to all this? Feckless? Link to comment
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