Prager U - Why Isn't Communism as Hated as Nazism?

[TGHusker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs&feature=em-subs_digest

 

Another Prager U video to promote discussion.

 

Dennis Prager asks and tries to answer the question: Why Isn't Communism as Hated as Nazism?

 

Think about it - why do people bring up the 'Hitler' card in arguments and not the Stalin, Mao, Lenin card? I haven't thought about this before - but Mr Prager has.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs

[ZRod]

Dennis Prager? No thanks. I listen to his radio show from time to time, he is terrible. Just another copy of Hannity/O'Reilly/et al.

 

The short of it is that Nazism is identified with the supremacy of the state and a chosen race. Communism is identified with the "common good".

[Army_Allen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs&feature=em-subs_digest

 

Another Prager U video to promote discussion.

 

Dennis Prager asks and tries to answer the question: Why Isn't Communism as Hated as Nazism?

 

Think about it - why do people bring up the 'Hitler' card in arguments and not the Stalin, Mao, Lenin card? I haven't thought about this before - but Mr Prager has.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs

Because the theory behind Communism isn't nearly as bad or evil as that of the Nazis. Communisms core beliefs were true equality. Equal shares, equal pay etc. Now corruption killed it with horrible leaders. But the premise itself is nowhere as bad IMO.

[TGHusker]

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs&feature=em-subs_digest

 

Another Prager U video to promote discussion.

 

Dennis Prager asks and tries to answer the question: Why Isn't Communism as Hated as Nazism?

 

Think about it - why do people bring up the 'Hitler' card in arguments and not the Stalin, Mao, Lenin card? I haven't thought about this before - but Mr Prager has.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGkKKAogDs

Because the theory behind Communism isn't nearly as bad or evil as that of the Nazis. Communisms core beliefs were true equality. Equal shares, equal pay etc. Now corruption killed it with horrible leaders. But the premise itself is nowhere as bad IMO.

 

Or does the philosophy breed those terrible leaders.? For communism to succeed, everything must be under central control. Concentration of power in the hands of the few, leads to the tyranny of the few. Thus the promised utopia can never be reached. Individuality is thrown out the window for the sake of the common good. But it is individual energy, creativity, and innovative ideas that drive positive change that lifts everyone up. When individuality is suffocated by those in leadership, then only the leaders have freedom and the semblance of utopia. I can say my philosophy promotes equality but if it doesn't "play in Peoria" it is a fraud. Since the promised utopia of communism has never been realized, the problem at the core isn't the leaders, although they may be rotten to the core, but with the philosophy itself.

[84HuskerLaw]

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

[knapplc]

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

 

I disagree.

[funhusker]

So some people actually think Jesus' disciples were worse than Hitler?

[RedDenver]

It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

You can make this statement about socialism or capitalism. Probably any *ism.

[NUance]

So some people actually think Jesus' disciples were worse than Hitler?

 

Wut?? At least 11/12ths of them weren't.

[ZRod]

 

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

 

I disagree.

I generally disagree.

[TonyStalloni]

 

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

 

I disagree.

 

I surmise you often disagree for the sake of debate.

[NM11046]

 

 

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

 

I disagree.

 

I surmise you often disagree for the sake of debate.

 

It's usually a pretty good stance to take when responding to 84.

[ZRod]

 

 

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

 

I disagree.

I surmise you often disagree for the sake of debate.

While 84 has a point that the US educational system often overlooks Stalinism and his mass killings simplifying it instead to "Communism is bad, and America won"; his ravings are often incoherent, uninformed, and reek of new age neo conservative propoganda.

[Nebfanatic]

 

 

 

The answer to the query posed is fairly simple really. For a couple decades or more, the public education system and much of mass media has deliberately misinformed and covered up much of the horror upon humanity that communism and socialism wrought upon literally billions of people throughout history and continues to this day. As much of the left in this country wants to promote much of the underlying tenets of the socialism/communism generally. It would be hard to 'sell' your agenda to an informed citizenry if they were aware of the very ills and malignancy that results from those very policies.

 

Socialism, by its very nature, acts upon the spirit of the individuals to dampen the enthusiasm and depress the work ethic and the individual's self worth and of course it is anathema to religion generally and particularly the fundamental values of Christianity in particular. In essence, communism is coerced socialism and fascism is like the half brother to communism and to the average citizen (the proletariat - the non ruling class). Both socialism/communism and fascism are polar extremes at opposite ends of the political sphere of social and political structures for governance while democracy and representative republic forms would lie on the equator.

 

Hitler was the supreme leader of Germany's "National Socialist Party" and was about as evil as any human being has ever been but he certainly was not alone. Stalin killed many MILLIONS (probably more than Hitler) and of course Mao, Khan, numerous monarchs and wruthless dictators throughout human history have done similar in their times. Mankind's inhumanity to mankind has no limits frankly. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, North Vietnam, Laos, and the list could go on and on - all have butchered, starved, gassed, slaughtered, banished into oblivion, so many millions one can't count them all. There are brutal murderous thugs killing by the hundreds of thousand around the world today although it is rarely reported on by the media that has tunnel vision, choosing to focus on that Dr. Evil, V. Putin of Russia. He's certainly no good but his reign of terror pales in comparison to the attrocities and crimes against humanity in Iran, Syria, Somalia, Nigeria, Haiti (Pappa Doc was pure evil as well but most haven't heard of him and he is a modern day Prince Vlad the Impaler type). The Romans were brutal. The Greeks, Egyptian Pharoahs, etc etc etc. Most of the slaves which were brought to America 350 years ago were 'sold' by fellow black Africans who themselves carried out their own genocides. So much of this history is either forgotten or ignored by the educational system today. Again, in my opinion, such ignorance is purposeful and dangerous as history repeats itself when the people know not what follows when people are denied their individual human rights.

 

I disagree.

I surmise you often disagree for the sake of debate.

While 84's point that the US educational system often overlooks Stalinism and his mass killings simplifying it instead to "Communism is bad, and America one"; his ravings are often incoherent, uninformed, and reek of new age neo conservative propoganda.

In the p&r forum. I've actually been enjoying his football posts lately XD

[knapplc]

Interesting to note that, while Tony is still (apparently) reading P&R, he has abstained from commenting and criticizing all the Trump pay-for-play, private email server, terrible cabinet choices, horrible policy failures, lying about who will pay for the wall, etc etc etc that is actually important.

 

But personal grudges - those are important. Let's comment on those.