Landlord Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Nebfanatic said: Man I thought we were over this. MAGA hat=support for Donald Trump. Why else would you purchase one? People don't purchase Apple products to support Tim Cook or Steve Jobs or the things their company does or stands for. They purchase Apple products because they are the most secure, or fastest, or coolest technology available. Same for Nike. The motovations for buying and using these products is COMPLETELY different from the motivations for buying and wearing a MAGA hat. Yes it equals support for Donald Trump, but there are all sorts of complicated and separate reasons people might support Donald Trump. Some people wear MAGA hats because they support Trump's racist remarks and owning the libs. Some people support Trump because they think he's going to help them feed their families better. Those people are not guilty of the worst of Trump's rhetoric and actions because they support him as a politician. 2 hours ago, Clifford Franklin said: This is from 2012. How does a school think it's appropriate to let those 4+ young men stay and attend the game? Unspeakably awful judgment on the part of the school. Well first of all, as you said, it's from 2012. Pre BLM. Pre Ferguson. Pre Trayvon Martin. Pre social consciousness and conversations about things like white privilege. Also, it's a blackout game. You wear black. As much as you can. For team spirit and fan camaraderie. And you scream at kids inbounding the basketball in front of the student section because that's the whole point of the student section. You can find millions of pictures of this same scenario where either A) the player isn't black or B) the player is black but the students are wearing blue or gold or some s#!t. It's not really any different and I can't possibly see anything racist here. 50 minutes ago, Caveman said: Come on, you can do better than that. What inhumane qualities are automatically transferred to the lucky owner of each new hat? None by default. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, RedDenver said: Except nobody has said either of those things. It's just people setting up a strawman argument. Yes they said both those things!! Link to comment
Caveman Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clifford Franklin said: Not a Bernie fan? Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, teachercd said: Yes they said both those things!! Tell me where I said the kids at the march committed voter fraud. Go back and read my post. I said I can tell who you voted for. That doesn't mean I think all underagers who wear maga hats committed voter fraud. It was more like hyperbole. A figure of speech. I in no way meant the kid in question with this whole thing committed voter fraud, and you know that. On top of all of this I have been very consistent in saying nothing more than MAGA hat=support for Trump. Nothing more, nothing less 9 minutes ago, Landlord said: Yes it equals support for Donald Trump, but there are all sorts of complicated and separate reasons people might support Donald Trump. Some people wear MAGA hats because they support Trump's racist remarks and owning the libs. Some people support Trump because they think he's going to help them feed their families better. Those people are not guilty of the worst of Trump's rhetoric and actions because they support him as a politician. Big difference from why a person might use Nike or Apple though. It is a political symbol. Nike and Apple are not. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Tell me where I said the kids at the march committed voter fraud. Go back and read my post. I said I can tell who you voted for. That doesn't mean I think all underagers who wear maga hats committed voter fraud. It was more like hyperbole. A figure of speech. I in no way meant the kid in question with this whole thing committed voter fraud, and you know that. On top of all of this I have been very consistent in saying nothing more than MAGA hat=support for Trump. Nothing more, nothing less Big difference from why a person might use Nike or Apple though. It is a political symbol. Nike and Apple are not. Oh...so I interpreted a situation incorrectly? Hmmm. Wonder if that happens a lot Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, teachercd said: Oh...so I interpreted a situation incorrectly? Hmmm. Wonder if that happens a lot Not sure what point you think you're making Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Today I learned making a contribution to a presidential candidate campaign does not mean you support that candidate. 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Today I learned that wearing a MAGA hat is an "injustice" and that 15 and 16 year olds somehow voted. I also learned that it is super okay to judge people by what they wear and how they look. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, teachercd said: Today I learned that wearing a MAGA hat is an "injustice" and that 15 and 16 year olds somehow voted. I also learned that it is super okay to judge people by what they wear and how they look. No one was making any of these points. The only point being made is that MAGA hats equal support for Trump. Teach, I want you to read every post I have in this thread and tell me where I've waivered from MAGA Hats= support for trump no more no less, and I don't want to hear about the voter fraud bull. You know what I meant in that post and I've edited it accordingly. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: No one was making any of these points. The only point being made is that MAGA hats equal support for Trump. This was LITERALLY the quote from RedDenver, pertaining to wearing a MAGA hat and wearing sweatshop clothes : "You're making the argument that all injustices are equivalent, which is obviously not true." And, well, you were the one that did the voter fraud thing. You said if you see anyone wearing a MAGA hat you know they voted for them. Anyone. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, teachercd said: This was LITERALLY the quote from RedDenver, pertaining to wearing a MAGA hat and wearing sweatshop clothes : "You're making the argument that all injustices are equivalent, which is obviously not true." And, well, you were the one that did the voter fraud thing. You said if you see anyone wearing a MAGA hat you know they voted for them. Anyone. Seriously quit with the voter fraud bullcrap. What I said was "Wearing a MAGA hat on the other hand immediately tells others who you voted for." so the word anyone isn't in there now is it? I think 'if they are of legal age to vote' is implied but since you took it and ran I edited the post accordingly. As far as what @RedDenver said, I cannot say what he meant by that but I really don't think he was saying wearing a maga hat is injustice considering that isn't what he actually said. Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: Today I learned making a contribution to a presidential candidate campaign does not mean you support that candidate. A lot of rich people, and companies give to multiple candidates, and from multiple parties. Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, B.B. Hemingway said: A lot of rich people, and companies give to multiple candidates, and from multiple parties. Ffs 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Seriously quit with the voter fraud bullcrap. What I said was "Wearing a MAGA hat on the other hand immediately tells others who you voted for." so the word anyone isn't in there now is it? I think 'if they are of legal age to vote' is implied but since you took it and ran I edited the post accordingly. As far as what @RedDenver said, I cannot say what he meant by that but I really don't think he was saying wearing a maga hat is injustice considering that isn't what he actually said. I will quit with it if you admit that you have no idea who anyone voted for unless they show you a copy of their voting ballot, deal? That kid, he didn't get an "edit" or a "redo" so... I think RedDenver is female actually. And that is what RD said, soooo. And lastly, will you admit that you can't judge a book by its cover? Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, teachercd said: I will quit with it if you admit that you have no idea who anyone voted for unless they show you a copy of their voting ballot, deal? That kid, he didn't get an "edit" or a "redo" so... I think RedDenver is female actually. And that is what RD said, soooo. Thats ridiculous. I have some idea if you are wearing a MAGA hat, just like I have some idea if you were wearing a Hillary 2016 shirt. The kid kinda did get a redo if you ask me considering the story has been changed about 4 times now. I could care less about him at this point but its clear they were Trump supporters. My apologies to Red Denver but no they did not say "wearing a maga hat is an injustice" did they? Can you find me that post? Link to comment
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